[Dubhe]

Lucavi :
For the record, 7 D.wings in ballista is my record for "most times quarrying crazy shit". Yeah, needless to say, we won and I got rook buster with the kills.

Lol, for me, it was when I quarried up 4-5 revitalizers. I just kept using my 2hr and I'd dig up a revitalizer 5 minutes later. I was SAM/RNG in that match, and the other team started leaving me alone because they'd always assume I would 2hr them. XD

As for jobs, I'd have to agree that most of the time, skill + luck > job. There are certain jobs that have a natural advantage though. I'd say THF, NIN and MNK are amont those. It's mostly due to a balance between damage dealing ability and survivability. There's also different styles of play. Some people are only concerned with fighting others, some are concerned with scoring. In my opinion, a good player knows when to fight and when to score. After all, the object is to win the game. XD

[Tpk]

Tpk :
This thread was about what job is the best choice for team matches in the various caps.

olandu :
sry Tpk you Fayle no other job can give me any comp in uncapped as rdm except for a rdm/drk Guil and Gekko only buy you time lol. Melee/sams thinking they can kill a rdm 1 vs 1 by just dumping TP is sadly mistaken(unless this rdm sux).

Gamefaqer failed to understand what the purpose of the topic was. Seperately from that, he assumed that a skilled RDM/DRK is the "be all end all" versus any job combination.

I did not think that I will win versus any given RDM simply because of meditate and a silencing WS. If you play right and DoT/Nuke/Kite, no melee/SAM would have a chance against you. If, however, you weaken yourself with Last Resort and or Souleater before meleeing, or use them right before your WS (telegraphing them to Third Eye) you put yourself at a severe disadvantage. I was simply trying to disillusion him to his belief that a RDM/DRK will always win 1 v 1.

[hokuten]

- I need to get my head out of my ass? You just admitted that sum are gimp. Ergo you're a gimp and a drain to your team.
- it's n00bish b/c only noobs fall for it, when you see a summoner summon shiva you know sleepga is coming, and why do you keep mentioning other jobs you lvl? trying to change the topic? no one cares
- why do you keep saying they need to un-gimp smn? if they did that then they would have to un-gimp everyother job they toned down. you keep bringing up that smn is gimp and been nerfed to make it look powerfull, news flash~ every job has been toned down or nerfed some way in ballista.
- oh wow golden chevron...that's impossbile to get as mage. you stay in back and cure peolpe and score petra's. That's so hard to do.... You keep bringing up instances where do you moves that do aoe damage constantly, which makes me think you face morons. any smart player would only fall for that trick once maybe twice, once again sounds like you're facing scrubs, have stacked teams which kills the fun and fucking morons who can't pick up on patterns. oh wow 52 petra's, I've almost doubled that in a game bitch. and no, you defenitly can't outdamage me in the span of 2 minutes, i would either shadowbind,sleep, gravity or bind your avatar, and beat the fuck out of you.
- and nope summoners on my server know how to play their job, but at best they're only average, i think the resaon you do good is b/c you either face peolpe who are new to ballista or the teams are stacked.
- and post-nerf rdm/rng only does 300ish the same as rdm/war's vorpal blade. Rdm/war > rdm/rng - if you get silenced as rdm/rng with an earth stave you're pretty much fucked.
- and your job is still a joke unless you have peolpe to protect you.( which is what i have been arguing the entire time)
- noob

[Samurai Pizza Cat]

Kaim :
Skill > Job. Most skillful player, no matter what job, will win. You're asking for a flame war -.-

LOL! What do you think this is, Guild Wars?

PvP in this game is far, FAR from being anything remotely close to balanced.