[Lucavi]

I'm starting to wonder if you even play on the same server as me.

So am I, seeing as you never seem to realize the fact that plds are in just about every uncapped match now, especially since jurio's been around.

I'm sorry but if you actually played a healer you would know this is BS. The other day in a 60 cap match @meriph as RDM/BLM I cured roughly 10k HP or so in the course of the match. I was constantly buffing, silencing, binding, and graving. (and it was mostly all landing) I scored about 20 petras, and I died twice. I recieved 150 ballista points for one of the best ballista matches I ever played as RDM. In pashow about three weeks back I did little to no healing the entire match. I went all out sleep/bind/grav/nuke, scored roughly 20-25 petras, and got ~175 ballista points.

You failed to describe how many members were in your alliance, which is a critical part of healing in ballista. The whms that are high scorers are few (Retill and Hisame), and are only because of an even mixture of points scored, and HP-restored. Yes, Hisame beat out the almight Etupirka on his mnk/sam, in a heavily scoring match that was both packed with players, and fairly evenly scored up until the final minutes. How did she do it? It wasn't hard to find out. Unless you consider a drk, rng (pt leader), drg, rdm, and war "all the good GB generating DD's" (which I wouldn't assume you would, given your stance), then no, she had decent killers, but no mnk/sams spamming quasi-asuran fists all day. What she did have, however, was a drg that popped 7 d.wings over the course of the match, a drk that was deadly with his guillotines, a skilled rng that dropped the shadows of the melee for us slow-swingers, and the intelligence to not only stay out of the fights, but to heal everyone when everyone needed healing -- so much healing, in fact, that she became the top scorer. Your "good GB generating DD's" didn't even make the top 3. Third was Tatibanya on her rdm.

Next time provide the important facts for healing, instead of giving us some rough estimate on your healing performance, and a decent-at-best number of petras scored.

That is what's getting those WHMs in the top ten. That and pre-emptivly inviting all the good GB generating DD to their PTs.

Right, thats why with 47 petras and 8 kills later, I was second to a whm (Hisame) that scored less than 35 points. What was she doing that was so magical? Hmm.. maybe it was that constant stream of curega spammage and the 2 revitalizers that let her bene 3 times, all at pretty good times (2 were post-thundaga III on the alliance).

No, it must have been the JP button, eh? :dozingoff

[olandu]

Odin
60, Uncapped (anybody can pwn the noobie caps lol)
Blm- none that stand out
Thf- Nikku, Kuuhalee
Rdm- Chaf, Shibushibu, Puncchin (going by Rdms that can actually beat me lol)
War- Kazsuyuki, AuronKu
Mnk- Sanzou,Gowron(monster, has HP for 3 ppl >_<) Kauna, Kazsuyuki, Milmilk
Whm- forgot her name Kaz's woman
Brd- Sota, Avalonx cheap Lulaby whores >_<
Bst- none in 60/Uncap
Pld- Valin
Drk- Skydert,Seetu, Sanzou, Darkdevilz
Drg- Coejus, Baron(all Taru wtf O_o)
Smn- Tiru
Sam- Saiddict
Rng- none in 60/uncap
Nin- Arradin

P.S Grim those names will make us look bad :|

[Wunderkind]

Ranger: Rangers suck. Sorry to say.

Come see me on Cerberus. ^^;

[Tpk]

Lucavi :
You failed to describe how many members were in your alliance, which is a critical part of healing in ballista.

...

Next time provide the important facts for healing, instead of giving us some rough estimate on your healing performance, and a decent-at-best number of petras scored.

If you Curaga 10 people for 100 HP each you get the same amount of credit as Cure IVing one person 3 times for 333 each spell. (minus the one HP difference) So if at the end of the day I cured roughly 10,000 HP, the number of people that were in my alliance is irrelavent. If you don't believe that though, both matches there were around 12 members in my alliance. The game I recieved ~175 points for I only cured myself when converting, and a very rare melee or two who were near death. I would estimate I only cured 2,000 HP or so that match.

P.S. I consider DRK a good GB generating melee. While I don't look down on DRGs, I realize they are targeted just as much as SAMs are for getting GB.

[Lucavi]

Im seriously starting to think that victory adds points to the total. Yesterday Authurs got 237 points after scoring 47 points and ending up on the winning team (our team), but theres no way in hell he got a ton of kills, because he always goes invisible and dumps his tp instantly into an opponent, crippling them for somone else. The time I had 8 kills with 47, I was on the losing side. The question, now, is how many points are awarded for a victory...?

On GB targets, honestly I find drks, drgs, and sams the hardest to take down. You might think thats silly, but think about it. Jobs that are comfortable with either their HP/Defense or their Utsu/Evasion, are more likely to be "ballsy" and just bull-charge opponents, dance for a bit, then roll out without taking that much damage. Drgs, Drks, Rngs, and Sams know that they have paper defense, and not the greatest HP to throw around, so they're more likely to retreat behind a wall of allies after their quick-strike moves, making it much harder to kill them than to kill the fool-hardy mnk that wants to stay in the front lines for an extra 7 seconds to get enough tp for another asuran.

I know my kill-count certainly gets the most kills from mnks and thfs, because I always see them, and they usually have 40% or less HP before retreating, so its not hard to nail a penta for 800 after somone stuns them, or nail a 250 jump into 600 penta for the quick kill. When I engage a drg or drk, usually its with me having to run INTO the enemy pack, because they wisely run after somone so much as lands a kraken club series on them, as they fear a critical-hitting WS on their backs. Everytime I try to get big-headed and "pwn" a soft target like that, I wind up with a 450 jump or so, but I get raped on the way back to the team before I can score, leaving (usually) only myself with GB on my team, and an entire party on the enemy side with GB. Not very smart, and granted, if you can get them alone, sure its domination, but smart players of those jobs rarely travel alone.

On the flip-side, I love being a drg because I love goading the idiot enemies into getting skulled by my teammates and I. Its so easy to just waltz up to the front of the line, voke somone, then dip back a bit, and watch the e-peen warrior chase after me, drooling over the prospect of some 1k+ WS, only to get stunned, bound, and pounced on by 15 other people. I sit back, wait for 5-10% health, spam both jumps, and hopefully get the kill and the 5 points. On big matches with more than 10 people on each side, I die about once or twice a match, unless I get stupid and try to chase somone across the field and get swamped. On smaller matches, I don't even pop food after the initial death, because its not hard to drop a drg as a nin or other utsu-user when its 1v1 and the drg is wearing heca for one-shot purposes, lol. Naturally, I love bigger matches, while my dual-wielding and fanciful friends enjoy smaller matches to better dominate us slower melee in 1v1 situations.

[Kauna]

I'm pretty sure just damaging an opponent adds points, too, but less than getting the kill.

[hokuten]

- top 3 people on our server that use multiple jobs, in random order

- Skydert, Aysuu, Azarde
- I think if you went by skill alone Azarde

[djsaltynuts]

Fairy Server:

Katsi = Bard = hinderance to the game imo, just avoid or waste time constantly quarrying for poison pots

Daos = Mnk = The sad type of player who just constantly trys to 1 shot Blms and usually gets himself killed in the process

Now onto the players worth playing with

Pel = Thf = Top player on Fairy without a doubt,

Ryoreh = Mnk = Only Monk I will run from, Shes just to good

Lysol = Mnk = Always gona be a good game with Lysol in the mix

Dragan = Drg = Probably plays more than alot of us, knows his job, always good to have on side

Karla = Thf = Yes Fairy server hated her (I didnt) but if she played in JP prime and everybody wasnt trying to kill her she was pretty dam good in ballista

Ingwe = Drk = Always a good 1 on 1 fight, and plays to fight not pussy about

Bard = Kazak = This guy on your team usually means victory, he does more than just lullaby and he probably has the ability to outlast at full-on attack, hes just dam good.


Please note, people I listed are some of the best and also some of the people that make ballista worth going to.
Alot of the people listed as 'Fairies best' are people that run in score a couple of cheap shots lose shadows run out and repeat until the WS - Good tactics, Crappy game.

laters

Kaze

[Phelios]

Best Players in Hades Hmmmm

60 cap:
WAR there are many wars NA JP but mostly JP but -.- i hate to say it u'll see me on top ten >< almost all the time on war for 60 caps, i don't do RDM anymore on 60 caps, names that can be mentioned tho are Karun, Ccd, Loks

RDM Firi is a great RDM, Liana started doing pretty good too, dont do RDM anymore on 60 cap unless teams are uneaven on mages, then to piss of ppl

DRG there are many DRGs here that are good yet they end up focusing on chasing or killing someone so they dont rank top 10

NIN Millia and Knida (who finally got the hang of Ballista)

THF Temadian is great on team play and scoring, Demiskus too when he does 60 cap

MNK Etupirka is a great MNK and Loks is very good, someone who doesnt figure in charts a lot but i just love his suicidal attitude is Darksephiroth lol omg he'll just keep fighting and fighting haha

SAM That taru that Dem mentioned he was really good, would assasinate ppl so nicely

BLM Sesilly is a great BLM, but lately BLMs have been getting low scores because RDMs or Melee targetting them and skillchaining em lol

RNG there are good RNGs here, including Knida, but Terrylle is the one that impressed me

WHM lol Terrylle was funny subbing war enter with defender and doing earthcrusher just cracked me up,

BST havent seen Riris much in action like previous ppl have mentioned, I personally like killing bsts lol

DRK Kirii good drk, good in scoring too, DRK/SAM is very powerful, but if the match is a good match, lol you wont make it out of there after doing souleater guilliotine or rampage, 1 good mage can make it end and that goes for every melee, so yeah he's good scorer and team player too.

BRD Marffei good taru bardaru, Dorion is also annoying w


Uncapped i'll post later ^^

[Knida]

Kauna :
I'm pretty sure just damaging an opponent adds points, too, but less than getting the kill.

No not at all I remebering scoring like 86 points 1 ballista and dmged alot of people, but never got the kil scored like 10 petra I think lol good times.

[Angel of Enders]

djsaltynuts :
Fairy Server:

Katsi = To Weak moron who prances around sleeping people, GTFO nobody wants you on there team

Daos = Mnk = The sad type of player who just constantly trys to 1 shot Blms and usually gets himself killed in the process

Now onto the players worth playing with

Pel = Thf = Top player on Fairy without a doubt,

Ryoreh = Mnk = Only Monk I will run from, Shes just to good

Lysol = Mnk = Always gona be a good game with Lysol in the mix

Dragan = Drg = Probably plays more than alot of us, knows his job, always good to have on side

Karla = Thf = Yes Fairy server hated her (I didnt) but if she played in JP prime and everybody wasnt trying to kill her she was pretty dam good in ballista

Ingwe = Drk = Always a good 1 on 1 fight, and plays to fight not pussy about

Bard = Kazak = This guy on your team usually means victory, Katsi is like the Sh*t on this guys foot


Please note, people I listed are some of the best and also some of the people that make ballista worth going to.
Alot of the people listed as 'Fairies best' are people that run in score a couple of cheap shots lose shadows run out and repeat until the WS - Good tactics, Crappy game.

laters

Kaze

Nothing crappy about playing a team game the way it should be played which is scoring points. Reason I never stick around to fight anyone 1 on 1 is because when I do, someone on the opposite team is running up in the distance behind them or the only time a DD'll even approach me is when they have TP, and/or I have low health. I've been called a coward by people but it's usually by people who have an obvious advantage over me and get mad because I'm smart enough to get the fuck out when I know I'm not gonna live through that encounter.

I'm finding that most MNKs that play Ballista get a really big head about being able to last longer than a lot of the other jobs and think that equates to skill when it's just the fact that MNKs are pretty much built for Ballista and most MNKs I've seen are 75 with merits whereas not many people that play on Fairy have their jobs that high except maybe the Japanese for obvious reasons.

Some people don't like being the reason their team loses, it ain't all about waving your e-peen around trying to figure out "WHY WON'T ANYONE FIGHT ME?!? ; ;" when the majority of the time, that's impossible unless you go somewhere far off away from everyone else to fight making sure both people don't have any buffs, full health and no TP at the start. Other than that, there's no other way to really determine anyone's skill other than, some people are really good at killing people and some people aren't as good. Or some people aren't good at lasting as long as some others are.

Katsi can be annoying as hell when he's not on your team but his lullaby spam is helpful as hell for taking out people's shadows so I personally love to have him on my team. Only reason Kazak seems better is because he subs NIN and is a Galka with lots of HP so he's usually not worth the effort to try to kill since he'll just sprint away when he's getting assaulted. On his NIN he's not much of a threat at all.

Daos is just out to score from what I've seen. I've watched some uncaps with him in it and he pulled his weight when he actually stuck around to fight.

Pel is a good friend of mine. I'm not gonna say he's the best player but he's incredibly hard to kill because of his insane evasion and those Strider Boots. He knows what he's doing but he's really predictable and more often than not, I've fucked up his Sneak Attacks to the point where he doesn't try to sneak attack me anymore. Unfortunatly he hasn't been on lately. Tried to find out why but I guess he was afk.

I've no real experience with Ryoreh other than the few 60 caps he's attended so I won't say anything other than take other people's word that he is a good player.

Lysol is the man. There's not much else to be said about him. He's fun to play with, and fun to play against. After it's all said and done, he's still a cool guy at the end.

Karla ran off too much by herself and was always getting herself killed when everyone was together so to be honest, I didn't like having her on my team. I don't remember her THF or NIN that well but she is skilled in her RDM I'll give her that. I just wish she'd tone down the trash talk.

Don't have much experience with Ingwe either even despite the fact that our teams fought in the Ballista Royale and ended with my team losing by three points if that says anything to anyone. In 60 cap I know he's often targetted though.

I see Dragan in almost every match and I'd be pretty disappointed if he stopped showing up. I have an interest in lvling my DRG probably when I cap out my WHM so it'd be cool to face off with him in some friendly competition since we're both pretty used to each other's playing style.

Now with all that said, everyone has their own opinion and of course I have to respect that. I try to be humble about Ballista for the most part and is really why I'd rather not list who my favorite people are. When people send me hate /tells I don't respond because I'd rather have a friendly rivalry with people not a bitter one. I've accepted everyone's play style even if some people in Ballista are just opportunistic fucktards (which I'm guilty of sometimes too). Only thing I really wish for though, is for more mature NA/EU people to play ballista instead of a bunch of hot headed babies.

[Aurac11]

Alchemi on Garuda is a pretty damn good RDM, but he sux at WAR

[Angel of Enders]

(Katsi) :

Pel is a good friend of mine. I'm not gonna say he's the best player but he's incredibly hard to kill because of his insane evasion and those Strider Boots. He knows what he's doing but he's really predictable and more often than not, I've fucked up his Sneak Attacks to the point where he doesn't try to sneak attack me anymore. Unfortunatly he hasn't been on lately. Tried to find out why but I guess he was afk.

Pel is going to quit soon, i talked to him today and he told me that he is busy in Life and he is going to quit soon ,
here is his web

Well that sucks. :/

[RebirthFlame]

Angel of Enders :
Only thing I really wish for though, is for more mature NA/EU people to play ballista instead of a bunch of hot headed babies.

>________________________________________>

[Unclegreen]

nah sskenshin. you must never ballista during the NA times. Unclegreen > Sutela in the THF department~ kraken club sux on thf. Evasion bonus > kraken club. I'd say sutela is the best nin because he goes nin/rdm and use EN spells along with his kraken club.and cyral..........well...im not even gonna start on cyral.....

[shenji]

ragingtoxin :
Garuda:

Warrior - This one JP in Koenig.
Monk - Ferrari
White Mage -
Black Mage -
Red Mage - Kouji
Thief -
Paladin -
Dark Knight -
Beastmaster -
Bard - Sinestra
Ranger - Kouji
Samurai -
Ninja - I'd say me >.>
Dragoon -
Summoner - Sinestra

I'll edit in more as I remember them, but it's hard when I have to dig back 8 months ago. After I join in on Lakshmi's ballistas, I'll post theirs too.

>.> ill own a war in koenig. prolly got more golds then him i just dont play alot anymore ;/

[Zhouer]

Tsuji :
Warrior - Cetra, Jediwarrior

Monk - Abbadon, Zylo, Shuto

White Mage - Zantes, dunno of any other =P

Black Mage - Someguy(This guy is very, very good xD Lol)

Red Mage - Onnajy, Cadgian, Aslangodric

Thief - Yorado, Zhouer, Ahirunger, Flareon

Paladin - Never met many of those in ballista, but Forbidden is pretty good =P

Dark Knight - Darkhell, and to be honest, I never met many more DRK's in ballista Yes, really xD

Bard - Galvont

Ranger - Ransu, Delequiox

Samurai - Delequiox, Dragonvc, Corran, Willows, Dragel, Deadsephiroth, Elzuine, Kazeron

Ninja - Shidokai, Vion

Dragoon - Cadius, Urbanmyth

Summoner - Never came across one in ballista, yes, I live in a very shelterred world

Half of those people don't do ballista much anymore. Majority of players are Jp Now D:
Fenrir My Opinion:
Bard: Glavont (Like only good Brd)
Black Mage: Someguy, Yumeyume
Dark Knight: Darkhell, Lexingtonprince
Dragoon: Urbanmyth
White Mage: Palaya, Runrune
Red Mage: Someguy(again ), Cadgian
Warrior: Hoe, Jediwarrior, Unasis
Thief: Garugaru, Kono
Samurai: Willows, Chipao
Beastmaster: Firsts (No one else plays Bst)
Summoner: Fenic
Ninja: Vion, Carz
Paladin: Forbidden, Keisuke
Monk: Shuto, Varout, Abbadon
Ranger: Ryu, Russ

[therealblacken]

Aluvien :
In Ragnarok server we're very often the same people playing ballista :| I still haven't ventured much in the 60s and no caps, but this is a short list of the best players I've met:
WAR: Gune, Kuw
PLD: Maoc, Xhantos
DRG: Bardak, Navien, Pakookai (and me of course, lol)
THF: Dantesparda, Hyuncel
MNK: Onyannko (she often joins ballista as BST too)
NIN: no one in particular... they just stand still and spam ninjutsu -.-;
BRD: Rikyukyu (and of course me)
SMN: Doma
SAM: in my Ballista matches, I see SAM just as a subjob
RNG: Shyfear
BLM: Aleksandreah and Imokko are the only ones I can think of... the rest is just a free gate breach lol
WHM: Not many WHMs join ballista on Ragnarok, Rikyukyu does once in a while and she's very good
DRK: can't think of any
RDM: either
BST: Onyannko and Victoria

YOU FAIL
dont let this nooblet fool you guys this is by no means the best out of Rangnarok. ive seen you play child and heh heh you are not that good.

War: Bure, Katapi, Myaran, Kuw, Gune <=when he does play he plays monk now
Pld: Maoc, Yochapa
Drg: Navien, Vayru, Seraphus
Thf: Navien, Dantesparda,
Mnk: Reisu, Droopyelephant
Nin: Teen << Subs rng has mercurial cris and byernie fast tp gain and then slugshots you as you run /fear
Brd: Arucard << Teen's personal brd
Smn: after astral flow nerf i dont see many smn but ill edit when i can think of some
Sam: Bastora,
Rng: Amema, Navien
Blm: Maoc, Anathema,
Whm: Rikyukyu
Drk: Zhoutenryu, Ouji, Zaryun, Demeanor, Hyuncel, you can add me Blacken but i dont think im that good
Rdm: Holn, Maoc,
Bst: Homhom

this list covers everything from lvl 30-uncap and uncludes brenner

[Nodachi]

therealblacken :

Aluvien :
In Ragnarok server we're very often the same people playing ballista :| I still haven't ventured much in the 60s and no caps, but this is a short list of the best players I've met:
WAR: Gune, Kuw
PLD: Maoc, Xhantos
DRG: Bardak, Navien, Pakookai (and me of course, lol)
THF: Dantesparda, Hyuncel
MNK: Onyannko (she often joins ballista as BST too)
NIN: no one in particular... they just stand still and spam ninjutsu -.-;
BRD: Rikyukyu (and of course me)
SMN: Doma
SAM: in my Ballista matches, I see SAM just as a subjob
RNG: Shyfear
BLM: Aleksandreah and Imokko are the only ones I can think of... the rest is just a free gate breach lol
WHM: Not many WHMs join ballista on Ragnarok, Rikyukyu does once in a while and she's very good
DRK: can't think of any
RDM: either
BST: Onyannko and Victoria

YOU FAIL
dont let this nooblet fool you guys this is by no means the best out of Rangnarok. ive seen you play child and heh heh you are not that good.

War: Bure, Katapi, Myaran, Kuw, Gune <=when he does play he plays monk now
Pld: Maoc, Yochapa
Drg: Navien, Vayru, Seraphus
Thf: Navien, Dantesparda,
Mnk: Reisu, Droopyelephant
Nin: Teen << Subs rng has mercurial cris and byernie fast tp gain and then slugshots you as you run /fear
Brd: Arucard << Teen's personal brd
Smn: after astral flow nerf i dont see many smn but ill edit when i can think of some
Sam: Bastora,
Rng: Amema, Navien
Blm: Maoc, Anathema,
Whm: Rikyukyu
Drk: Zhoutenryu, Ouji, Zaryun, Demeanor, Hyuncel, you can add me Blacken but i dont think im that good
Rdm: Holn, Maoc,
Bst: Homhom

this list covers everything from lvl 30-uncap and uncludes brenner

I'm not exactly sure who you are but I'm assuming you don't frequent uncappeds too much, and that's ok. I no longer go to caps below just cause of current inventory issues haha.

I agree with some of the names, however, some really throw me off. I'll just use your list and check agreements/disagreements. Everything I list will be for uncappeds. I realize some of the ones I put are either in or were in my LS, but I'm really trying not to be Bias.

WAR: Stormos, Mayhem

PLD: Toyer, Rusifar

DRG: Really not so sure anymore. The only frequent DRG to uncappeds isn't so good =X I remember Navien being good though so that works.

THF: Katapi (No one can touch him.)

MNK: Reisu, when he actually plays. Rathar than his emo tantrums where he solos whoever got killshot on him lol.

NIN: Teen yeah, I'd say he's top. Nice guy too.

BRD: Really not sure, same issue with DRG for uncappeds. I don't play it enough to vote myself

SMN: None really attend enough to say.

SAM: Ashley, Tsukasa (I never see him but always on leader boards so I'll give him benefit of the doubt). Kinda think of myself fitting here too, I work kinda hard for it lol. Mcpeepants. More and more been showing lately, I like it.

RNG: Ikari when he shows. Mayhem too.

BLM: Morningstar, Maoc(For 60 and below)

WHM: Orz forgot his name, male elvaan.. JP player too.. Absolute best WHM I've seen but can't remember his name :/

DRK: Kenshi, Dionel

RDM: Grocky, Morningstar

BST: None frequently come to uncapped :/

Just off the top of my head.