[Kumo]

The

details finally here, yes the official Jobs details. Abilities, 2hr, and explanations of the 3 new jobs ; and

the ToAU expansion content details

Besieged




http://www.playonline.com/pcd/update/ff11u...Ft2/detail.html

ToAU content




http://www.playonline.com/pcd/update/ff11u...Ph1/detail.html

New Jobs




http://www.playonline.com/pcd/update/ff11u...7d3/detail.html

[Johyo]

gratz to

pld for refresh and thanks SE for no more MPK

i was MPKed yesterday by one of those method in kuftal on

Amemet by RMT

[Rfsancho]

WOOT

PLD GOT AUTO REFRESH!

[Ohemgee]

PLD/NIN

hasnt changed.

[Hitty]

Bolts in

quivers! Pld auto-refresh! New stuff for alchemy! I'm so excited!

No more temp log to POL...wtf...?

[Hix]

hmm COR is a

refresh whore *Picks Evoker's Roll* PT gets Refresh Effect *Corsair's Roll* PT gets Exp Up gonna be repeatative

like BRD.

At least thats how it reads.

[Rollinwinds]

Call

me silly, but something tells me those who played BRD, are gonna go COR..

[Booki]

I would

think that the dice roll would need those Jobs in the actual PT to get the benefits from those jobs. If not, then

ya, COR is the new BRD.

[Syrous]

Who wants

to bet Fighter's/Corsair's/Evoker's Rolls will be super expensive while Drachen Roll will be worth 5k on AH?

[Slayerxox]

The

jobs dont have to be in the party, read the explanation. It is said when a Warrior and a Fighter's Roll is used,

the effect in increased. So its more beneficial to use party related rolls, so they say.

[Druvian]

did SE

tell how we're going to aquire these jobs? like a guide or something?

[Mythx]

I may be

reading this wrong, and hopefully I am but...Does this worry anyone?
[IMG] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/Gandek/24-3_us.jpg[/IMG]
Monster Stealing FTW now?

[The Cat]

probably

an attempt to stop PL?

[Rfsancho]

Read

other threads first, Mythx
http://www.killingifrit.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=115810

[Achren]

so.. no

new blm spells yet?

[HAcoreRD]

Oh boy.

I'll need a marco for "/Blockaid on" now.

Oh I like NM rape. And yes, that "MPK" issue is the end of

PowerLeveling. Dunes just got serious.

Example:
PowerLeveler casts Cure 3
*Monster faces

Powerleveler*
Monster becomes purple to party, hate is now on him, if party wants back they gotta get hate back

by:
*curing
*Boost spamming
*Songs/Spells on their team

[jiral]

HAcoreRD :
Oh boy. I'll need a marco for "/Blockaid on" now.

Oh I like NM rape. And yes, that

"MPK" issue is the end of PowerLeveling. Dunes just got serious.

Example:
PowerLeveler casts Cure 3


*Monster faces Powerleveler*
Monster becomes purple to party, hate is now on him, if party wants back they

gotta get hate back by:
*curing
*Boost spamming
*Songs/Spells on their team

Oh, ffs, does

anyone bother to read anymore?
Now, look closely children...
[img] http://www.playonline.com/pcd/update/ff11u...Ph1/24-1_us.jpg[/img]
[img] http://www.playonline.com/pcd/update/ff11u...Ph1/24-2_us.jpg[/img]
[img] http://www.playonline.com/pcd/update/ff11u...Ph1/24-3_us.jpg[/img]

Now, in the first image and in

image 1, notice the color above the mob. It's orange. Normally, I'd say that means somebody called for help, but

here it means the mob is unclaimed. It's aggro, or link, or something that an AoE grabbed. It's NOT

CLAIMED.

The blue guy is probably fighting something else. Either that or standing there blocking hits from

an attacking mob without claiming it, whichever.

The red guy is going to attempt to claim the mob to get it

away from the blue guy. Mr. Red is going to provoke, flash, arrow up the butt, whatever.

In Image 1, he

shot an arrow up the mob's butt. The mob couldn't care less. Whatever Red guy did, he didn't generate more hate

than whatever the Blue guy did to get hate in the first place. So, the mob is still unclaimed and still attacking

the Blue guy.

In Image 2, Red guy manages to generate more hate than the mob has toward Blue guy. Red guy

gets claim. Notice the color of the mob's name change?

This adjustment will fix situations where someone

provokes a mob, but it keeps attacking somebody else. Say Someguy uses "Earth Crusher" instead of "Rock Crusher"

by mistake and the AoE hits a nearby mob B. "Earth Crusher" has ticked off Mob B pretty royally. I come by and

cast "Dia" to try to get it off Someguy. Dia does not generate more hate than the "Earth Crusher" AoE damage, so

Mob B keeps attacking Someguy and ignores me. I don't have a claim on Mob B. Neither does Someguy. It's an

unclaimed mob attacking him. Now say I come along and Flash and Provoke. Those two generate more hate than the

"Earth Crusher" AoE and I get the claim and the mob comes after me.

Also, if you read the full text,

you'll see this line above those pictures:

"Accordingly, players will no longer be attacked by monsters

that they themselves are unable to attack."

From my interpretation, this will affect PLs in one way: Dunes

tanks will have to learn their jobs the hard way. No more WHM casting Cure IV and drawing the mob to hit them

instead of the party. The WHM can still spam cure the tank, but the mob will no longer redirect its attention the

WHM spamming cure. You can't attack a purple (claimed) mob, so it won't attack you.

Now, this is just my

interpretation, of course. We'll have to wait until everything comes back online before we see how PLs are

affected.

[Celebrindor]

If I

read the entire post by SE correctly on the claiming issue, that only goes for unclaimed monsters. What the

diagram posted shows is two players both standing by an unclaimed monster. Here's how I see it

working:

Let's say you're escorting your level 30 friend through the Altepa Deserts as a 75blm/whm to get

him his altep teleport crystal and maps in Rabao. Now your friend foolishly allows sneak to drop with a nice

grouping of anticans right by, and they run for the fresh meat. You can't provoke as the job you are. You could

try hitting the two mobs that are attacking your friend with spells, but that will take time targeting, etc. Or

now, you could just cure III his ass right back into safety HP wise and pull hate, thus claiming the

monster.

Boy do I hope this works this way, otherwise NM camps are going to be full of RDMs in full emnity

gear casting cureIV,etc on anyone who claims a NM.

[Rfsancho]

Celebrindor :
Boy do I hope this works this way, otherwise NM camps are going to be full of RDMs

in full emnity gear casting cureIV,etc on anyone who claims a NM.

1- Apperantly you still dont

understand what the pictures mean at all

2- Thats the way it ALWAYS been, you could always get hate by

cures and run away

3- Thats what blockaid is for

4- Read number 1 again

5- Bitch at me cus

you think you understand, but in reality, you dont


The end

[laerick]

The way

I took it is if the monster is claimed, it will not attack someone out of the party/alliance that would of in the

past generated hate by curing or any other type moves, of course I can't see the pics cause im at work and they

block pretty much everything here. So the way I take it is the PL will no longer steal hate, thus making it more

taxing on the PL's mp reserve because he will no longer be able to draw hate and eat the mobs damage. Kinda like

having a stupid level 15WAR in a Valks party your pl'ing keep voking off you even when you told him 30 times not

to.