[Nodachi]

In the update notes it even said AF isn't available yet. It's just like RoZ's release lol. We saw level 65 DRG SAM NIN SMN running around in storebought equips ; - ;

[darusgrey]

There is a thread on Alla at the minute with a screenshot of someone asking a GM, and the GM confirming that COR/BLU/PUP AF is implimented in the game right now. Don't know whether that is necessarily true, and I can't get the link to prove it (for some reason my work blocks Alla, probably the popups ) but it looks a relatively legit screenshot.

Yah I saw that, but GMs are not gospel, they are customer service practitioners, the majority of which are outsourced and *have no actual experience playing the game*.

[Eladamri]

I dont think COR is suposed to be a full-time DD.

[X_of_Unicorn]

Eladamri :
I dont think COR is suposed to be a full-time DD.

Correct, and even SE said it: "Corsair is not a DD, its a support Job, in the same class as Red mages and Bards".

But...

Here's another tidbit: SE never meant Ninjas to tank. Guess what it was orginally considered as? "Support Job".

Dum-dum-dum... the plot thickens.

Not that I want another job to have /nin attached to it, but seeing what possibilities this job has, i say /thf ftw!.

Have any thoughts, opinions? We would like to know...

[Teffie]

Eladamri :
I dont think COR is suposed to be a full-time DD.

Waste of a PT Slot then.

I'm lv.26 and I'm doing TONS of Damage (COR/RNG), and at the same time Giving the PT Awesome Buffs.
If I had /whm, didnt engage, and spent whatever LOW MP I had, I'd just be useless.
I'm busting out 55+ Range Attack Shots, and I havent even got to the Noct+1/Peacock/Archers Knives Gear. Once I hit that, I'll be quite the power force. I'm even able to Pull hate from our Tanks, sometimes just by using Phantom Roll! If I had a parser I'd show you just how much Damage I am doing, and on top of that I am pulling mobs for the PT, and giving those amazing roll buffs. I can only imagine how much better I'd be with Quick Draw and Random Deal.

[Cranberry]

Yeah right dude. How many of those "+55 DMG" shots do you miss. I bet you hit 3 out of 10.

[RangerNddare]

Yeah right dude. How many of those "+55 DMG" shots do you miss. I bet you hit 3 out of 10.

Shut the hell up. You have no idea what you are talking about, and until you do all posting privileges have been revoked.

This coming from a 75 RNG with merits. 55 damage is low, try looking for the sweet spot. I'm 27 now and ive been doing 80+ per bullet since getting to jungle. Its called a good hunters roll, racc geat, and merits always help. RNGs at this lvl dont have much more racc than we do, and we have hunters roll. Id say about the same racc, rng might have us by a few. you telling me thet only hit 3/10? Please. Learn your crap then start talking.

Back to the original post. darusgrey- grats man. thats really cool, and I thank you for posting info. Nice to see what we will become. The only prblem ive seen so far about COR is that we become a RNG basically, been there done that. Had ALOT of fun, but dont want to spent another xx million gil buying ammo to be cool. but I will because its ownage ^^.

[MagusRex]

Well my merits didnt help much even with 11 rolls with hunter in the jungle. +1 gun and all and rings. Maybe your just lucky.

[ThatHalfAznGuy]

hmmm... if cor really can shoot well (which might change at higher levels), then mithra might be the best race because gambling isnt affected by any particular stat, but hitting stuff with guns will be easier due to the high agi.

[RangerNddare]

Yes AGI helps racc. At lvl 75 RNG Elvaan have 67 base /nin and mithra have 78. 11 AGI = 5.5 racc. 5.5 racc at lvl 75 is nothing and at lvl 25 ish its more like a difference of 4-5, 2-3 racc. Again no big deal. At lvl 25 COR as 4 less skill than a true ranger, 3 more racc in neckpiece, + acc from bow and arrow. At 25 I have +4 skill from merits. So a RNG only has 3 more racc + any possible AGI. Does a lvl 25 RNG suck? Do they miss 70%? I dont think so.

For any rngs 22-25 we solo worms 10x better than a rng of our same lvl. Magus Roll + Hunters /whm with barstonra. Stone II and Stonega was getting denied like a dragoon. (j/k i <3 good drgs) Chain 4 236 was my best (no ring and no corsair roll) Stay clear of Wights and Banshees and you are set.

[Spider-Dan]

Can we get some "real info" on Evoker's Roll?

OP originally said U#/normal = 1, L#/X = 2, XI = 4. Then it was edited to say U#/normal = 1, X = 2, L# = 3, XI = 4.

42COR on my server says it's actually U#/I = 1, normal = 2, L#/X = 3, XI = 4.

Can we get some verification on this? It shouldn't be rocket science.

[darusgrey]

I noticed today I was getting 2 on an 8. I don't get 2 on 1/2/3/4 though.

In other news I tested Quick Draw fully today.

Things that effect Quick Draw damage.

NOT any normal stat, none. Tried every stat with a BRD.

Weapon Damge effects it (but *not* ATK)
Bullet Damage effects it
Level effects it(its been going up with lvl, even though my gun/ammo dont change)
Magic Atk Bonus( 100% confirmed) Republic circlet effects it, moldivate effects it, day/weather effect it, elemental staves effect it.

[Sonos]

darusgrey :
Weapon Damge effects it (but *not* ATK)
Bullet Damage effects it
Level effects it(its been going up with lvl, even though my gun/ammo dont change)
Magic Atk Bonus( 100% confirmed) Republic circlet effects it, moldivate effects it, day/weather effect it, elemental staves effect it.

Was hoping you said this. Even though its very far off Crimson gear should be delicious. I was excited about the +ele stats and the COR next to it before you posted this. Good info keep it up.

[Kourama]

Quick Draw sounds ok atm but I'm pretty sure with a hexagun COR can maybe shoot all 6 cards at once. Even if they can't COR kicks ass, hope to get some time to lvl it this week.

[Cidsama]

okay I saw somewhere in here saying

"Refresh and this plus Ballads will pwn!"

SE said in the update and X-pack that you can only have 2 songs or 2 dies up at a time, not both.

[Kourama]

You can have 2 rolls and 2 songs on at once. I've pt'd with a BRD already.. you can also have 4 rolls on at once with 2x COR.

[Sonos]

Owned.

[darusgrey]

I'm gonna make a prediction here thats gonna be unpopular.

But...for HNMs I think the ideal combo is gonna be...

Dun dun duh....

Cor/Blm...I wish I was kidding. My Quickdraws are topping over 300dmg now. Probably in the 500/600s by 75.

SE said in the update and X-pack that you can only have 2 songs or 2 dies up at a time, not both.

You can have 2 songs AND 2 rolls on at same time. You however can't do BRD/COR or COR/BRD and get *3* effects from the same person.

I static with a BRD on my COR, and ballad and evoker's most definetly stack.

[norrec]

u say u made more dmg with quickdraw with /blm ?
so int got an effect on it ?

[lovian]

anyone know what the bonus is with having a smn in the party?
is it +1 or does it lover the roll required to get 2 or higher?
thanks for the info in advance