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Can Monk beat PLD 1 on 1?

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User is offline   Unikatze 

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Last time I fought my 75 Paladin friend was back when I was level 72, didn't have as decent gear as I have now and I didn't have Ninja sub. We had a pretty close fight (He won), and for a while, I was pretty sure I could beat him now with Ninja sub, just dodging pretty much all of his attacks and wearing him down little by little. But now he's been buffed with auto refresh (When him running out of mp seemed like my only chance) and a higher shield rate. Not only that, but he has etherreal earring now. Is it impossibe for me to win?
(I'm assuming he'd sub WHM)
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Well pld/rdm would be alot harder then pld/whm. As Iv said before mnks only weakness is magic, and pld/rdm is just crazy hard. I recommend going /sam so you can throw out a consistant about on asuran fist.
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/SAM?
Hmmm...
I thought it'd be a fight of who could last longer. I even thought we could end up at a stalemate.
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Stay away from /nin in 60 and no cap. I would only use /nin if I had the best evasion equipment possible. All monks should use /war or /sam in 60 and no cap matches. Use counterstance after the paladin uses TP or try to time it before the paladin get's off a TP move.
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If he subs WHM it won't be a survival battle.

/NIN will be useless. /SAM or /WAR is what you want.
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vampiric claws


destroyers

pld/rdm, joytoy, capped shield+parry(iirc)

me nin subbed ;>

no outside items, straight struggle

no af2 feet

spikes are hype, i landed a few nin enfeebs on this pld as well lol
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that doesnt look like a fully equiped pld for ballista
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it's a dead pld^^ what can i say
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Ice Spikes are deadly to a PLD if it can cause paralize. So as a MNK, equip a bit of ice defence just in case.

Countering will be the big thing, cross counters or vampiric claws really help in situations like that. Destroyers (as posted above) is nice as well.

/nin is useless against a /whm, or even at times a /war. A smart PLD may skip the use of joytoy cause they know your counter rate, and seek to buff up their defences constnatly to keep your DoT lower than yours.

With Shield Mastery and Auto-Refrech it is difficulty to pull a PLD down in a 1 v 1 simply because the heavy defences alows such minor issues to become a major factor, being that of TP gain and MP endurance.

What this translates down wanting a faster paced fight. /sam and /war will help with these situations, as double attack is nice to stack on with hand to hand (especially with kick attack). Haste Gear, and anything that will generally help your DoT. This also translates into the longer the fight lasts, the more chance he gives you to use your heavy damage weaponskills.

unfortunatly, if he goes /rdm, it's nearly impossible to fight him with just a mnk's meleeing skills Phalanx ontop of all the other endurance abilities that can be used is just killer. Not to mention the ability to dispell your buffs as you use them.

Anyways, good luck in your attempts. Yo've got a good chalange there.
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monk can just sub a rdm or whm and try to silence them before they get silenced
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i Tried this:
top geared mnk/nin (osode, faith torque, brutal earring, byakko's, black belt... ETC.) versus an Aegis (relic shield finished), full koenig/kaiser pld/whm galka with joyeuse, i got him down to 30% but got owned in the end. He's also the only person who defeated me in ballista ever (1vs1).

None of us used 2hours.

Hope that answers.

PS: i'm the monk
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pld/whm is kinda meh in ballista, especially if the pld has aegis, our high def, then adding pro 4, phalanx and bio 2 that's on the mnk makes our stoneskin extremly hard to break through, /sam is your best bet so you can get TP even when your hitting for only 0's.
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I think I'll give it a try with /NIN, seeing as how I do have a lot of Eva gear and he doesn't have Joytoy.
If he ends up whipping my ass... I'll level SAM tongue.gif
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you do better with /sam like they said if they were both equiped with the best gear for there jobs it would be a nice fight. I have only fought a mnk 1v1 3 times im 2/1 as pld/rdm. The one i lost to had /sam and beat me
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