[Dimmauk]

Zeosilot :
So what happened to this thread anyways? I know everything for Blu's hasn't been tested already, not even close, lol. Meh...
(I made this same post in another topic but since it belongs here.... I'm posting it here now too).


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So I just finished manaburning in Mount Zhaylom on Ebony Puddings.... on firesday.... with my Karin Obi.

I'd just like to say, Firespit > all. I was soloing just to test damage so keep in mind if I was in a full blm party I could have set spells to do even more damage and I wasn't using food.

But..... in any case, my max damage with Firespit was *drum roll please*

***1,481***

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I'd like to add, I was also using no food. With Goblin Mushpot I prolly would broken 1,500. No clue how high AL would take me but I didn't use that yet either

The Jp Blm's that were manaburning there.... were nuking for high 900's to low 1,200's.

With no buffs or ugg pendant my Firespit with obi only hit for a mere 840. Hmm, I'll just lay out the #'s so it's easy to read.

840 - Obi
880 - Obi - Ugg. Pendant
957 - Obi - Ugg. Pendant - Enervation
963 - Memento Mori - Obi
1235 - Memento Mori - Obi - Burst Affinity
1340 - Memento Mori - Obi - Convergence - Ugg. Pendant - Burst Affinity
1415 - Memento Mori - Obi - Convergence - Enervation - Sound Blast - Burst Affinity
1481 - Memento More - Obi - Convergence - Ugg. Pendant - Enervation - Sound Blast - Burst Affinity

The rest of my gear was always the same as follows:
Vulcan's Staff
Phantom Tathlum
Yigit Turban
Ugg Pendant (have promise badge but just didn't use it to keep results based on one gear set)
Cmn. Earring
Moldavite Earring
Errant Body (tried Yigit Body but double mods on errant > yigit... which i would have realized if I thought about it)
Aqua
Aqua
Prism
Anrin Obi
Mahatma Slops
Yigit Crackows

I don't really think I could improve on my gear apart from getting a mahatma body or novio earring.... actually I lie. Morrigan's of course. I believe that would be the only thing though, correct me if I'm wrong

Anyways... 1,481 Firespit for 121 Mp. Gear up your Blu's and go rape some Blm's in the face!

This was done as /BLM?

I love how versitile Blue mages are, but I'd like to be able to change functions as the situations change, and not have to change sub jobs all the time.

I'm wondering how well /thf or /nin would do with this set-up. NEED MOAR INVENTORY SPACE!

[Zeosilot]

Ya I did this as /blm, I could have subbed something else (like /nin) and probably still have come up with comparable results. I'm pretty sure with the spells I had equipped I would have had "magic atk bonus I" even without black mage sub which game me "magic atk bonus II" (which is only 4% stronger or whatever).

If for some reason SE decided to randomly give blu's an extra 30 inventory space then you'd be able to use this spell on the fly (as well as fulfill other random duties) but.... I wouldn't tell you to hold your breath for that, lol.

[SirrusAndShadshot]

Maybe this is old news, but I do recall someone saying (|Ram Charge|) on Genbu is a good call with Monster Corelation Bonuses kicking in (Though its not really good on anything else). Gave it a test today, Very pleased; and only at level 73 makes me quite happy.

~SACAAL



/thf of course
~58Base Str 55Base Mnd

No screeny of the gear I used.(Ton of acc, but very lacking Str wise) But my stats were +30Str & +1Mnd.(Spells included)

Ram Charge is 50%mnd and 50%str; So I'd say these numbers could be very much higher if I had the gear to support it.

[Giliax]

Just did Jailer of Temperence got some results here,

Cannonball CA + AZ + SA and around 200tp didnt use any defence food so this can get alot better i think..
This one is overall nice because usually when JoT has blunt damage up ppl will kite. And u can easy SA Cannonball every min. for an avarage of 600-1000.

for when u need to do Slashing damage Vertical Cleave can do alot
this is with CA Sneak attack 0 tp

and when piercing is up u can just spam Dissevertment for 400-500 everytime gets more when using CA

[Alistaire]

SirrusAndShadshot :
Maybe this is old news, but I do recall someone saying (|Ram Charge|) on Genbu is a good call with Monster Corelation Bonuses kicking in (Though its not really good on anything else). Gave it a test today, Very pleased; and only at level 73 makes me quite happy.

~SACAAL



/thf of course
~58Base Str 55Base Mnd

No screeny of the gear I used.(Ton of acc, but very lacking Str wise) But my stats were +30Str & +1Mnd.(Spells included)

Ram Charge is 50%mnd and 50%str; So I'd say these numbers could be very much higher if I had the gear to support it.

Ram Charge > Cannonball = light. I've done Ram Charge for 500 ish on Kirin ages ago. Get someone to gear up specifically for that and I'm sure they'd do better.

[Kaslo]

Giliax :
Just did Jailer of Temperence got some results here,

Cannonball CA + AZ + SA and around 200tp didnt use any defence food so this can get alot better i think..
This one is overall nice because usually when JoT has blunt damage up ppl will kite. And u can easy SA Cannonball every min. for an avarage of 600-1000.

for when u need to do Slashing damage Vertical Cleave can do alot
this is with CA Sneak attack 0 tp

and when piercing is up u can just spam Dissevertment for 400-500 everytime gets more when using CA

The #s are nice but personally I like /nin for this one for a couple of reasons, A. I can solo the Ghrah's around the spawns and to each spawn, incase I fall behind or something. B. I tend to pull hate alot as it is /nin and have to kite.

Overall any SJ is good for this just personal preference.

[Zeosilot]

I would somewhat agree with Kaslo's choice of /nin, but... in all honesty /nin probably doesn't matter much for Temperance, because in my experience (and I've done a LOT of temperances) whenever I pull hate he slams me with that optic (whatever) move and I lose all hate, and the tp move temperance uses goes through shadows so it's pretty much like I have no shadows at all.

I think you'd fare just as well on temperance using /thf and equipping zephyr mantle to absorb the stray hit that might be throw your way.

But... as Kaslo said pretty much any sub is fine for Temperance

[Steelshine]

Plus /nin is just all around cooler.

[Aggelos]

i dunno if this has ever been tryed and im not really educated in BLU, although i plan on lvling it soon, But i wanted to know if anyones ever tryed BLU/SAM on hnms or something and instead of trying to do big dmg, do as many solo SC as possible, that way BLM could nuke more and thus kill things faster. Although with all the over nuking tanks would have a harder time keeping hate, I dunno it was just an idea that i had and wanted to know if anyones tryed it.

[Kiarax]

Aggelos :
i dunno if this has ever been tryed and im not really educated in BLU, although i plan on lvling it soon, But i wanted to know if anyones ever tryed BLU/SAM on hnms or something and instead of trying to do big dmg, do as many solo SC as possible, that way BLM could nuke more and thus kill things faster. Although with all the over nuking tanks would have a harder time keeping hate, I dunno it was just an idea that i had and wanted to know if anyones tryed it.

If it's something you're not meleeing it'd take 2 Meditates (6 minutes) to get 100%+ TP, you're better off /THF, /NIN or /WHM.

[SirrusAndShadshot]

Huzah!
Moar Ram Charges On Genbu; I really enjoy pulling the occasional hate on him.


SACAAL

I also hit a 850(At beginning of fight)
SACA300tp

No screeny though.

And my setup that goes with it.



Only 2 merrits atm in Bluemagic skill.

Nothing I have is unreasonable, some clear upgrades are possible(Earrings, maybe an aqua ring). Didn't feel like using SpikeNeck since -6 mnd. (3str vs -6mnd on a 30%str~50%mnd spell?) I can totally hit 1k next time. =)

[Doubtless]

Did a JoJustice today I think spamming Poison Breath on him may be the best thing to do. Was doing 70 dmg disservements so I try this and was getting 170-200 dmg for 22 mp. He wasn't resisting and I wasn't using any m. acc (no merits), so throw in the occasional heat breath when mp allows and sub THF for the occasional SACAVC when you have TP.

[Alexw]

No screenies but...

Ouryu i went /THF, STR:+58 VIT:+38 i think. Protect IV cocoon (no Minne, stingy LS (idc if you're stalking me still Sethie)), SACA Cannonball with 0TP ranged from 600-800. With 100-200% TP (built off Ziryu's) Up to 900. Could've easily broke 1k with ALSACA300%TP but meh.

Edit: Gimped sub + no Minne (DEF:701) =

[Astura]

I was getting 600-900 firespits on jailor of fortitude today testing as blu/blm depening on buffs up. Biggest problem was overcoming the casting time on firespit to not be out of range. I fould refueling + 15-18% haste gear i could keep up amplication up all the time. I had +49 int ,no food on me sence it was a rush to get to the fight. (just logged in before popling it)

Gear i used was firestaff, morgans head, uggly pendant, magnetic/moldy earring, errant body (resist werent a issue), yigit hands, +3 int rings (from blm hadnt upgraded yet), +3 int/mnd cape, Penants rope, errant legs, yigit feet.

I'll probly go /rdm next time sence i never needed ES also will probly try out eyes one me as well if i get a chance. Killing aerns afterwards hit 1k firespits to do as much as the blms tier 4 nukes (little over 1k). Id say so far that firespit is between a tier 3 and teir 4 nuke depening on buffs you have up for it (ba convergance amplification memento mori etc.)

[Bethor]

Heya,
just wanted to toss in a few questions.

Has anyone tried any other DD spells on JoL? Not speaking of the Breaths or 1000 Needles... Since it's sometimes hard to determine where its ass is, would be /THF a viable subjob for this?
I hope I will get some chance to test a few things, since it's a rather long fight~~

Ciaos!

[Evedgebah]

Headbutt is awesome on Aht Urgan44 Sub boss and SACA Cannonball was knocking off 5% on final boss. and I had 600 DEF and +44STR 30VIT.

[Zeosilot]

Bethor :
Heya,
just wanted to toss in a few questions.

Has anyone tried any other DD spells on JoL? Not speaking of the Breaths or 1000 Needles... Since it's sometimes hard to determine where its ass is, would be /THF a viable subjob for this?
I hope I will get some chance to test a few things, since it's a rather long fight~~

Ciaos!

If you want to know where it's ass is, just type /assist while targeting JoL. Providing you tank it in a similar way to my LS it'll face one way the whole fight within a 20 degree radius.

[Astura]

My ls is hopfully doing JoL later today if enough people log. If i get to go blu i'll take SS of cannonball to see how it does. If love is similar to other ufos it will be very squishy to casata/sata cannonball. (2 tanks 2 blu/thfs on each tank goes down real fast)

[GlennXI]

Any blus managed to test spells in places like Salvage and Einherjar and on NMs like Odin? post your findings

[Dimmauk]

GlennXI :
Any blus managed to test spells in places like Salvage and Einherjar and on NMs like Odin? post your findings

I did a couple of Einherjars as a sleeper/DD. We are the only job that has 2 different sleep spell types which helped with random mob spawns I went a /nin and used Sheep song, Yawn, Sporific, Pinecone, A.Blast and Temp.Shift to help the BLMs and BRDs with the sleeps. It was fun and it worked pretty well.