[mytoy]

im workin on the chart now, i just cant member wether we have a C a C+ or a C- lol

EDIT: Well common sense finally decided to make an appearance lol, we get Dragon Kick at 75, well Dragon Kick = 225 H2H skill, 225 cap = C

So here is, add it where you think it should be:

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[banderdragon]

Updated

[Vivisan]

Lynx Baghnaks are really good. One less damage, but only +30 delay.

[banderdragon]

Updated.

Please post if you think of something, or come across some information you think would help the community. This is a work in progress, and we are all still learning.

[mytoy]

Lol just posting to keep this thread near the top =P

[spira]

hmm.. i'll ask the mods if they can sticky this

[banderdragon]

Whoo hoo, we get sticky. Cool, thanks spira.

[spira]

only makes sense to do so cos its got all the stuff a new PUP would probably need to know and is more current than the other FAQ sticky..

plus u're still updating it so its a good thing too. maybe next time u'd want to break it down into 101, 201 etc for the more indepth guides to more complicated PUP stuff. otherwise by the end of things the guide will have too much stuff itd be kinda messy.

just my 2c. you're doing a good thing for all the PUP out there so cookies to u guys. XD

[banderdragon]

hehe, i love cookies.

[Chernabog]

For armor, ditch the RSE stuff. All RSE is good for their races. They make up for shortcomings in the race and add to jobs that the given race isn't so good at. If you must, maybe just say "RSE" as a general thing instead of listing specifics.

[banderdragon]

Did some updates. Added all the hate gear i could fine, please post if you know more. I figured since some people were trying PUP as tank, i would see if i could find gear for them. ATM they are listed as [red]Hate Gear[/red].

In addition, i Followed up on Chernabog's idea of sorting RSE and RSE2 down to a bulk post since most parts are good for most races. Found a great page on FFXIclopedia with all parts listed.

A word on the coming update. i HOPE we get some stuff. If you see something neat and new, post it please.

[mytoy]

/cry no new stuff to my knowledge ; ;

never mind w00t new attachments ^^



Addition:

Lightning Ring

[bojangles_ice_tea]

well.... the only time i actually used RNG for solo was to skill up (last frame i got). Subbed WHM for silence and skilled on worms.

[banderdragon]

mytoy :
/cry no new stuff to my knowledge ; ;
never mind w00t new attachments ^^
Addition:
Lightning Ring

Not sure i want to add avatar items. they are so blasted limited. a game-day is about 45ish mins long. means you only get it every 4.5 hours. Not sure i would even want it taking space in my inventory.

[mytoy]

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[spira]

just pointing out some inaccuracies

Barbarossa's Zerehs are a drop from the 3rd Ashu Talif 'assault-style' quest BC btw.

and not to nitpick.. but its spelt 'Avatar' XD

[banderdragon]

updated.

If anyone finds a link to info on the 3rd Ashu Talif 'assault-style' quest BC I'd be interested in the URL. didn't see anything on somepage or wiki.

[[Bariss]]

Well i dinged 57 today, and my LS got me my Puppetry Taj and
my new title Paragon of Puppetmaster Excellence
Gotta say its easy to underestimate Valkeng, but he can be tough w
Im loving PUP so far. As i love lvling the jobs ppl pretend to hate lol.
No one really hates our job, if they did i wouldnt be asked questions daily
and examined every 5min. People are just too scared to admit it openly.
They're in the closet!

:love

[Zareth]

I figure I might as well make my contribution to the PUP community, so here it is;
RNG automaton solo
It works largely like valoredge does, let your puppet tank and keep up fire/light maneuvers for voke/regen and toss in occasional earth for Stoneskin. But, when fighting worms, you can work it like a duo.
Required attachments: Strobe Auto-repair kit
Reccomended attachments: Scope, Auto-rep Kit 2, tension springs, Shock absorber
Frame Combination: Sharpshot Head, Sharpshot Body

Throw up a light maneuver, and send it after the worm. If it goes into melee range (does this sometimes on first Deploy) use retrieve and then hit deploy again. Try to Deploy it at the "sweet spot", close enough to get good damage but far enough to have ranged accuracy. Then put up a fire maneuver to get it to voke, and move in to melee. If the monster is not shot/meleed by your automaton before voke, though, hate will be marginal at best so you may desire to wait. The 3rd Maneuver is up to you, though I will wait a bit and use another fire for extra hate (if it vokes before shooting) or another light if it's low on HP, or a wind maneuver for additional Racc if neither.

Becareful not to pull too much hate, and if the puppet gets low (due to a link) throw up stoneskin and let light maneuver heal it up.

If it starts casting stonega run the opposite direction of your puppet, since it has hate it will get hit and you will not.

I'm still fairly low PUP, so I haven't had the chance to test this anywhere but shakrami. but I was able to get chain 4 a few times. Maybe someone of a higher level could test this? That or i'll try it out once I reach qufim.

Either way, it's fairly nice EXP, at least at a lower level. I was consistently able to chain 120-140 EXP mobs for chain 3-4 solo.

It's probably also possible to adapt this to using Valoredge or Harlequin puppet, with you as /war voking it and just running out of spell range, i'm not sure how effective that would be however.

Edit: NEVER use the same maneuver twice in a row, always alternate or you'll get an overload and likely die if the battle just started.
Edit 2: I suppose this doesn't apply after you get the anti-overload AF, but losing the effect of provoke could be deadly. Also a great way to cap automaton RA post-37.

[mytoy]

ill try it i guess, ne1 know a good place to kill worms at level 50 lol?
nvm >.< i got grounded


YESSSS!!! NEW AUTO WS COMMING!
now if only theyd up a few skills, and gives our autos emotes