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A Guide to Being a Cost-Effective Ninja

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There's a good number of rare/ex tidbits that're helpful, and "free." Acquiring them requires a reasonably self sufficient group of people. 1pt minimum for most of these, I'd say.

Lv 1 - Dash Sash - Event Item, +2 enmity belt from Level 1. Can't get better than that, really... hope you didn't toss yours ;o

Lv 41 - Voyager Sallet - 3 str, 4 dex... Offensive / WS macro headgear doesn't get much better than this... up until Shura Kabuto. Drops from Carmine Dolbsonflies in Riverine A01. You might get 1 or 2 to drop after killing off the 10 spawns.

Lv 50 - Swift Belt - Dropped from any one of 5 force-popped NMs in the Sacrarium. Drop rate stinks, all but the taru -can- be done with 1 party, though the hume is the easiest of the 5. It's pretty much the belt you'll be using forever, unless you come accross a Speed Belt / Koga Sarashi / Nintura's Sash somewhere down the line.

Lv 50 - Nokizaru Gi - Brydgit, the stylest quest. Turn in the ninja subligar dropped from fomors in the Aquaducts or Sacrarium and model for the stylest. Decent replacement for the Jujitsu Gi and one of the earlier +Enmity gear available.

Lv 64 - Kitsutsuki - Dropped from a tonberry NM in the den of rancor... I don't remember the exact name atm... but pair it with hototogisu and you'll have the two best 185 delay katana in the game. Damage rating on it is somewhat low for its level, though. Can be done solo at 75... though its kind of pointless by then.

Lv 70 - Ungur Boomerang - 8 hp, 8 mp, 8 evasion. Much <3. Drops off of Ungur, a NM spawned off of Hurricane Wyvern PH's. Its spawn area is filled with many kinds of unpleasant aggressive mobs, and the Wyvern PH's are T? or low end VT to 75, I don't remember. If you're level 70, you'd best bring at least 1 party. 75's have duo/trio'd it before.

Non-rare/ex wise:

Lv. 50 Garrilous Ring - 3 STR and 3 AGI in one ring slot = win. Do a few level capped assaults with some friends and save up the 8000 assault points. Shouldn't take you more than a week or so to get it, if you win every assault. They sell for a bit on the AH... but if you do the assaults lts, it's "free."

Lv 55 - Jaridah Bazubands - Runs for about 60k on midgard... pretty cheap for some acc, some racc and some evasion all for the price of -9 hp.
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Thank you for this. Comes at a great time and its quite insightful.

Mods, plz sticky^^
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Tomiko :
Nice guide. smile.gif

Alahra :
Get a Jujitsu Gi at 40. It's one of those expensive items, but it's farmable, looks sexy, and has a solid +4 Accuracy. If the gilsellers don't have Davoi on farm status on your server, you can even camp it yourself.


Just for those planning to camp this, I wouldn't attempt to solo this unless you have a higher level job. The NM is a Mnk and there is a decent change of getting links where he spawns.


Some other items worth mentioning:

Lv.15 - Rogetsurin - Good ranged weapon to have if you like pulling. Plus it has Agi+1 which is nice since there's not really anything good stat wise for ranged for quite some time. Also useful for skilling up throwing.

Lv.31 - Dhalmel Whistle - Cheap alternative to Spirit Torque if you can get help with the NM or have a higher level job to camp as. Generally uncamped.

Lv.35 - Jaeger Ring - Ra/Ex alternative to Sniper's Ring if you have access to Riverne Site A01 and a couple Summoner friends.

Lv.55 - Hototogisu - This is a very nice Katana to get if you can get help with the NM. I'd definately suggest putting time into getting it if you party with Brds fairly often. Plus the 3 Acc is a nice bonus as well.

Lv.55 - Jaridah Peti - Basically the budget version of SH. Downsides compared to SH: -25 HP instead of +15, 5 less Acc. Upsides: Can wear 1 level sooner, +5 Atk, +5 R.Acc, alot cheaper (about 100-150k on Unicorn)

Lv.75 - Walahra Turban - Not sure why this wasn't listed, but it should basically be free if you have ToAU. If so, chances are you'll have exp'd alot in the new areas and have amassed alot of IS points. Use the points to buy 20 Imperial Gold Coins then go to Nashau and start the exchange process to turn them into 1000 Imperial Bronze pieces. Trade the Bronze pieces to quest NPC.


Good catches. That level 15 throwing item is pretty nice. I might actually try to pick one of those up for my BLU. I'm not sure how I forgot about the Peti and the Turban, honestly. I'm in the process of getting my Turban now (I've only had the expansion for a little while ; wink.gif.

Meo :
There's a good number of rare/ex tidbits that're helpful, and "free." Acquiring them requires a reasonably self sufficient group of people. 1pt minimum for most of these, I'd say.

Lv 1 - Dash Sash - Event Item, +2 enmity belt from Level 1. Can't get better than that, really... hope you didn't toss yours ;o

Lv 41 - Voyager Sallet - 3 str, 4 dex... Offensive / WS macro headgear doesn't get much better than this... up until Shura Kabuto. Drops from Carmine Dolbsonflies in Riverine A01. You might get 1 or 2 to drop after killing off the 10 spawns.

Lv 50 - Swift Belt - Dropped from any one of 5 force-popped NMs in the Sacrarium. Drop rate stinks, all but the taru -can- be done with 1 party, though the hume is the easiest of the 5. It's pretty much the belt you'll be using forever, unless you come accross a Speed Belt / Koga Sarashi / Nintura's Sash somewhere down the line.

Lv 50 - Nokizaru Gi - Brydgit, the stylest quest. Turn in the ninja subligar dropped from fomors in the Aquaducts or Sacrarium and model for the stylest. Decent replacement for the Jujitsu Gi and one of the earlier +Enmity gear available.

Lv 64 - Kitsutsuki - Dropped from a tonberry NM in the den of rancor... I don't remember the exact name atm... but pair it with hototogisu and you'll have the two best 185 delay katana in the game. Damage rating on it is somewhat low for its level, though. Can be done solo at 75... though its kind of pointless by then.

Lv 70 - Ungur Boomerang - 8 hp, 8 mp, 8 evasion. Much <3. Drops off of Ungur, a NM spawned off of Hurricane Wyvern PH's. Its spawn area is filled with many kinds of unpleasant aggressive mobs, and the Wyvern PH's are T? or low end VT to 75, I don't remember. If you're level 70, you'd best bring at least 1 party. 75's have duo/trio'd it before.

Non-rare/ex wise:

Lv. 50 Garrilous Ring - 3 STR and 3 AGI in one ring slot = win. Do a few level capped assaults with some friends and save up the 8000 assault points. Shouldn't take you more than a week or so to get it, if you win every assault. They sell for a bit on the AH... but if you do the assaults lts, it's "free."

Lv 55 - Jaridah Bazubands - Runs for about 60k on midgard... pretty cheap for some acc, some racc and some evasion all for the price of -9 hp.


More good catches. As you can tell, I've missed a *lot* of rare/ex gear. This guide's already pretty long, so instead of directly editing most of these in, I'll point out that there are more suggestions down below. smile.gif
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Might be easier to just quote them up top, Alahra. Speaking personally, I would rather have as much data in one place as possible, although I'll be printing this out anyways^^
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Resentment Cape. R/E, lvl 40, and has +2 Enmity. The NM is kinna hard, a Tonberry THF i think. Solo'd it as a 75PLD, but a Nin has it a lot easier w/ Utsusemi.

Another thing is why do you suggest OKotes? Wouldn't HKotes be a better choice as they are only +15 atk, and no -5 eva?
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Just a quick question... what would you hink is more important Okote or Scorpion harness?

i ran into a little bit of money and on my server they cost a bout the same, just wasn't sure what to get first the Okote or harness?
My ninja is 63 and when i hit 67 should i use the Assault Jerkin i have, and sell my Haubergeon so that i have money to buy okote or a harness, or just keep the haubergeon for WS, and farm alot more with kindred and beastmen seals, ISNM and assault points too i guess, for something?

(just so i don't gt laughed at, i have dRK at 75 and war close behind it thats why i have Haubergeon lol)
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I wonder why noone mentiones Storm Manopolas... they are > Arhats Tekko+1

Arhats Tekko+1 = Level 63, Def: 14, Evasion +4, Enmity+2
Storm Manopolas = Level 50, Def: 16, Evasion +6, Enmity +3

Also they are priceless... they are gained from Assault Missions.
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Dreizehn :
Another thing is why do you suggest OKotes? Wouldn't HKotes be a better choice as they are only +15 atk, and no -5 eva?
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-evasion doesn't matter much, after you merit Evasion skills 4 times. Even skill can overcome something as minor as -5 evasion. Not to mention o.kote is cheaper on my server by 1M tongue.gif
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QuoteDreizehn :
Another thing is why do you suggest OKotes? Wouldn't HKotes be a better choice as they are only +15 atk, and no -5 eva?
Horomusha Kote
Ochiudo's Kote

-evasion doesn't matter much, after you merit Evasion skills 4 times. Even skill can overcome something as minor as -5 evasion. Not to mention o.kote is cheaper on my server by 1M


on siren it's about 100k cheaper for Okotes, and pre-75 -5 eva can be a lot. I make a rule as to no -eva on a nin tongue.gif
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QuoteDreizehn :
Another thing is why do you suggest OKotes? Wouldn't HKotes be a better choice as they are only +15 atk, and no -5 eva?
Horomusha Kote
Ochiudo's Kote

-evasion doesn't matter much, after you merit Evasion skills 4 times. Even skill can overcome something as minor as -5 evasion. Not to mention o.kote is cheaper on my server by 1M
on siren it's about 100k cheaper for Okotes, and pre-75 -5 eva can be a lot. I make a rule as to no -eva on a nin tongue.gif


Well, these are suggestions to a thread for first time NIN who would not have merits. :x But yeah the thing about the H. kote and the O. kote... that -5 is really no biggie especialy if you have an empress/emperors hairpin. That cancels O.kotes -eva and O.kotes are cheaper. smile.gif

I love evasion skill + equipment. If NIN is your 2nd job, stop leveling it and go max evasion merits. You will LOVE it. :love I do not wear any eva + piece... except for empress pin. I wouldn't know what to replace it with until Walahra Turbin since I do not have an O-hat, except for a Voyager's sallet which I don't have access too. ._. Well actualy now that I think of it, there's Walkure's Mask for +6ATT or Panther Mask +1 for that Haste 3%. I wouldn't know which would be better though. :o_O

Anyway.... so yeah eva skill > eva + :love:love:love
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If there's anyone who knows about being a poor, homeless ninja, it's Alahra.

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Nice post happy.gif The Sticky Gods will smile upon thee, or prove their nonexistence!
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i made a guide similar, not to get to 75, but to get to 37 for NIn as a SJ cheaply, and just enough effectivness. not to be a great DD< alot of RL friends quit cuz thie main job needed to sub NIN and yada yada left. i got 2 back, and helpped them get SJ up.
tho my NIN isnt Lv75 and i copy/pasted to look at another time, i would love to lvl NIN after i get my stuff done. (which is forever from now)
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Izmo :
If there's anyone who knows about being a poor, homeless ninja, it's Alahra.

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Nice post happy.gif The Sticky Gods will smile upon thee, or prove their nonexistence!


Izmo. -.-
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Kurokaze20 :
I do not wear any eva + piece... except for empress pin. I wouldn't know what to replace it with until Walahra Turbin since I do not have an O-hat, except for a Voyager's sallet which I don't have access too. ._. Well actualy now that I think of it, there's Walkure's Mask for +6ATT or Panther Mask +1 for that Haste 3%. I wouldn't know which would be better though. :o_O


I went Empress Hairpin > Panther Mask+1 > Walahra Turban since I didn't (and still don't) have O.Hat.
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The resentment cape crossed my mind... but I forgot to write it down since I don't posess one xD

As for the Storm Manoplas... I suppose it is superior in all ways compared to arhats+1 and it is free... but I've done close to 30ish assaults... and only once have we gotten something that wasn't a junk drop from the ??? items >_>a

So... yeah... it'd be nice if you get lucky, but it's not something you can really go for and hope to get within a reasonable amount of time.
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Meo :

As for the Storm Manoplas... I suppose it is superior in all ways compared to arhats+1 and it is free... but I've done close to 30ish assaults... and only once have we gotten something that wasn't a junk drop from the ??? items >_>a


lol i have done 1 assault *ever* and those just happened to be the drop we got lol biggrin.gif
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Back to why im posting.

I need some help with this Celery BCNM60! I tried it yesterday and found myself telling my rdm friend to run for it cause we weren't put out enough damage. Did i choose the wrong NM? do i need to spam elemental wheel (i only used jubaku, hojo, kurayami)? any suggestions would be appreciated!

Edit: i picked Mauled Murdock
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Which NM did you pick Feli? :no
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At 46, you'll come across the first katanas I truly recommend. Yoto +1's are fairly inexpensive (perhaps 50k each, depending on server) and will last you until level 61. With the levels getting longer, that's quite a long time. The Defense Down proc on these is very useful, and activates pretty often with the +1 versions.


No one reacted to this this far, so I will.

Using the double Yoto+1 from 46 to 61 is a really bad choice.
The Sai you can get at 49 is a pretty good katana too ( even if this one can be easilly skipped), however once you reach lv 54, you need to upgrade to the Muketsu ( +1 if you like Hqs katanas ), at least in your main hand ( Muketsu+1 / Yoto +1 is a good combo)

The muketsu effect isn't as good as the Yoto since it only drains Hps.
However, Hp drain is still makes some more damage ( = the hit you do + the Hp you drain).

The muketsu also have the better dmg output, and the better atk power ( and atk power have a considerable effect on Wses) and the faster delay till 61 in the category of the cheap and easy to get katanas.
( yes Hototogitsu and Kageboshi are better... but pretty harder to get )
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Sais suck, and Yoto +1 helps the party more.
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One in offhand is enought ... and more dmg ( just for you Vs the others) = more hate, wich also helps the party doing good job.
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