[Aphie]

ROFL.. so tahts what they call us behind our backs... nice to know

And way to wtfpwn him Ase

[octoberasian]

Elswood :

octoberasian :
Bakarayo called me a whore in Cantonese while camping Ulli a few weeks ago. >.>;
He thought I didn't understand Cantonese, so I called his LS, in return, f***offs and other choice words in their native tongue. <.<
Boy, was he surprised. He proceeded to respond to me: "Ulli mine." and "Your LS no get" or something in his best English.

It'd be quite the spectacle to see you, of all people, tell someone off. lawl. (srsly)

p.s. Did SK have to quit? I only heard about what happened. :dozingoff

Only gilsellers piss me off (and elitist and greedy players). >.>
And, to call me a whore for camping Ulli, that just went too far.
Hence, the 30+ ppl on my blist are mostly gilsellers. Just glad Hoodlam's been banned.

Not sure what's happening with SK. I'm not sure if the situation's been resolved or if he's coming back for sure. It's just terrible what happened to him. The nerve of some people in this game.

[Spartan]

Hi@Aselin, Gamez and Jaybar.

[Jaybar]

Hi@Spartan. Are you back to playing again?

[GamezAsura]

Hi@Spartan,

Aselin abandoned us again ( this is very disappointing to me when attempting to revive Bismarck, maybe if I diverted Alishas from mnk forum to bismarck forum when she's drunk.. that'd get atleast 10 posts of conversation.. :o_O lol... Asura got 5 pages of drama off a blackmage lotting a relic gun, that just makes me sad.

[octoberasian]

GamezAsura :
Hi@Spartan,

Aselin abandoned us again ( this is very disappointing to me when attempting to revive Bismarck, maybe if I diverted Alishas from mnk forum to bismarck forum when she's drunk.. that'd get atleast 10 posts of conversation.. :o_O lol... Asura got 5 pages of drama off a blackmage lotting a relic gun, that just makes me sad.

Hehe, you'd have to pull me from the Tech Help forums as well. >.>;

I could make up some story or drama if you'd like. -.-
I just don't know what to contribute to the Bismarck forums to begin with that'd be as steamy as some soap opera or romance-drama manga. <.<

And, why in the world would a BLM be crying over a Relic Gun? <.<
Does said BLM have a 70+ RNG and/or dedicated intention to upgrade the Relic Gun?
Bleh, I'm not on Asura to begin with. It isn't my business to meddle in the personal affairs of others unless I'm invited, permitted, or asked to; or it involves or concerns me.

[Spartan]

Jaybar :
Hi@Spartan. Are you back to playing again?

Posting from France, LOL. I get back tomorrow.

[octoberasian]

Hi Spartan, Jaybar, Gamez.

By the way, Gamez, just read what happened in your Asura forums: some LS named Armada KS-ed Fafnir. XD

Since you were looking for a bit of drama, here's one:

On Bismarck, I've seen that happen... two or three times in the past four or six months.

It happened to a JP LS and an NA LS, and it nearly happened to my last LS two or three months ago.

Let's just say that you shouldn't piss off this one LS on Bismarck if they believe you stole it from them or if you claimed it fairly and they were jealous you claimed it over them. Why? Well, since you can't MPK in Aery nowadays, the only other option is this: drag Darters over to FafNid's tail. After that, cause FafNid to forcefully turn his back towards the LS that had claim. Now, all you have to do is wait for FafNid to Spike Flail that LS and voila! you have MPK-ed that LS. As soon as it goes yellow, claim it. There you have it, instant KS-ed FafNid.

Hence, why I'm sick and tired of seeing crap like this happen in endgame. I'm tired of the drama and pricks that just make endgame unenjoyable for the other honest players in this game. If you can't play fairly and reasonbly, you have no right to play at all.

[GamezAsura]

Armada monopolized Kings for the first 2 years of JP reign on Asura, NA could never claim and thus NAs started botting to counteract the JP botting, Ralph aka Super Ralph of Armada once claimed Nidhogg from Upper Jeuno and flew off the ledge over the darters and into the pit to voke it, when that update hit, they couldnt claim a single NQ and the NAs began their reign which, got most of us our endgame gear.

Demonhunter, one of Armada's leaders, actually admitted they sell off their extra gil, and since they had all king gear and began selling abjurations and blackbelt items, they literally sold all their excess gil, DH is from houston despite being JP, he paid the mortgage on his house completely from sold gil, and now he's in an NA LS called Sheikahz, whom, is beginning to get alot of claims after they stopped killing darters regularly to make things 'fair game', coincidence or the more you know~

Napolean is Sheikahz main leader still, and is reknowned for teaching the gilsellers the in and out of ZM missions and sky gods, including all the pop items and how to kill the actual gods. That crew can be directly tied to the groups PLing in alliances, and thus is probably also responsible for the groups on your own server, we're the heart of all evil and point the blame on him so to speak. As for Flail, Ase ^^ I know, when our gilsellers claim every LS in the pit teams up and tries to flail them that way.

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but, I don't care about drama, I just like seeing conversation on the dead forum, kind of miss how Lakshmi use to be with Tonka bumming around, we spammed alot during his work hours >.> lol, as far as the fair play thing goes, I'm pretty tired of it too, when my lsmates even want to KS gilsellers if they claim something I just tell them its not worth the reprocussion nor upsetting people, just wait your turn and be fair.

[Jaybar]

What's KS mean? I've only seen it used as "Kindred Seal" NM etc. I take, it means something along the lines of MPK?

[octoberasian]

Jaybar :
What's KS mean? I've only seen it used as "Kindred Seal" NM etc. I take, it means something along the lines of MPK?

KS = Kill steal

Yes, it's along the lines of MPK.

Basically you kill off someone or a group of people to claim an NM or HNM. Hence, the term "kill steal."
Long before the anti-MPK measures and claiming issues were introduced into the game in several updates, it was rather common to see Gilsellers and elitist/greedy HNMLSes do this on a regular basis. You name the NM or HNM, it's almost certainly have been done there.

With the anti-MPK measures put into the game, you can't "technically" MPK a person, a group of people, or an LS nowadays. I have seen, however, that MPK is still possible in the game, therefore SE hasn't truly eliminated it 100%.

What I mentioned above is one way to do it and I've seen it done by that particular LS about two or three times. The third being an attempt on my last HNMLS. This particular LS has been claiming the majority of HNMs between April/March to June/July 2006. And, I've read, I think on Carbuncle Server forums, players on that server tried to do it to Gilsellers that were fighting Tiamat and force it to Spike Flail them.

All you have to do is force the HNM Wyrm to turn. And, to do that is introduce another object like another enemy in the same general 3D position/space occupied by that HNM. Since the two can't "co-exist" on that same 3D space, one will be forced to move to make room for the other. Therefore that HNM Wyrm will turn. With the HNMLS fighting, they could attack or accidently attack the back side and by some random chance that HNM Wyrm will Spike Flail when the back is facing them. And, there you have it, HNMLS wipes and the other jealous or angry HNMLS steals it after the previous one wipes.

And, kill steal (KS) doesn't only happen at HNMs, I've seen it done once during XP camps. I mentioned other ways that you can MPK and/or steal enemies or other NMs/HNMs in FFXI even after the anti-MPK and claiming measures were introduced into the game in the Summoner Forums: "It's Official" post http://www.killingifrit.com/forums.php?m=p...2607591#2607591. (Not going to repost it here due to length.)

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I may miss camping HNMs, I miss doing it with good friends and people I like. But, it's all this friggin' crap that goes along with endgame: drama, greed, selfishness, elitist attitudes, and unfair play that I'm fucking tired of it.

Will I go to another HNMLS? Maybe.
I will probably just have to suck it up and try to ignore those nagging problems of endgame and just tolerate-- like I've already tolerated enough as it is. It's unfortunate SE can't and will probably never fix these problems or remove these players from the game.

[Jaybar]

Ah, I see, thank you Ase'. I do know this about MPK after update:

If the mob is close to it's spawn zone, and you are able to lose enmity (i.e. "Hide" via Thief), the mob will not despawn. My friend was telling me that when he was camping Sozberry that another thief tried to MPK him while he was fighting the nm by pulling a tonberry near him and Hiding. Good thing my friend is damn good, tanked both mobs. I think the mpk mob was ninja, so surprised he lived through all the elemental attacks.

[Elswood]

Our Charybdis the other day totally got KS'd.

Then the dumbasses wiped and we took it back.

Was hot. That is all. (lol@jaybar)

[octoberasian]

Jaybar :
Ah, I see, thank you Ase'. I do know this about MPK after update:

If the mob is close to it's spawn zone, and you are able to lose enmity (i.e. "Hide" via Thief), the mob will not despawn. My friend was telling me that when he was camping Sozberry that another thief tried to MPK him while he was fighting the nm by pulling a tonberry near him and Hiding. Good thing my friend is damn good, tanked both mobs. I think the mpk mob was ninja, so surprised he lived through all the elemental attacks.

Yep, I've heard that happening before. Like I said, MPK isn't totally eliminated. If the enemies are still within or near its spawn area, they will not despawn. If you pull it out of that spawn area, it will despawn. This was part of that "BST Nerf" patch several months ago. BSTs got pretty ticked off about it because they couldn't bring pets to far off places and use "Leave" so they could regain HP. That's one of the "backdoors" to MPK someone still in this game.

Charybdis' area is an area I've seen KS happen pretty often. Sorry to hear that happen to you Darkwood. > < That's because the Mantas are never far off from their spawn area in that little room. So, if someone else managed to MPK you and your party with another Manta, it's quite possible they could just bring it to you then "Hide." That Manta will then just aggro your party.

Just sad really. *sigh*

[Jaybar]

lolblm got MPK'd

I do know bsts still solo in Ifrit's using Scorps as pets and farm the hecteyes nearby. They can Leave them right in the middle to regen. Wondered why the scorps never despawned after seeing that after update (on my Voivure and Lindurm spree through Ifrit's for like 3 weeks).

[Elswood]

Actually, Dobby ended up dying from being owned.. but Chary basically stopped and went unclaimed after, then got claimed right after. Was pretty lame, but also funny watching them getting raped one by one.

The crap part was I still had hate on it after, and almost died from casting Utsusemi >_>

[Jaybar]

Bahahhh....blm/nin?

[GamezAsura]

I'm so proud of you guys, spamming and talking on your own I don't have time to give a proper response on the forum, I'm on AIM(PM me for it) and MSN.. but atm doing dynamis glacier.. next DRK AF goes free lot which means they'll give it to my 3/5 mannequin yay! (I plan on exping it but seriously just want the AF2 set first..)

edit: LOL Nvm... 4/5 DRK AF2 now!

[Elswood]

Jaybar :
Bahahhh....blm/nin?

lolyep

@gamez, grats for making your mannequin pro. if only i had one :/

[GamezAsura]

I only got one wednesday for my bday from one of my good friends, she handed it to me when we were playing round ^^;