[XsilentX]

I've also heard that Homam's Trip. attack gimps Brutal.. never really understood that either.

[Jaybar]

The reason it "gimps" brutal earring is this:

You have a 5% chance to Double Attack, so theoretically after 19 swings, the next one will Double Attack.

Now, Homam Corazza has a "2.5%" chance to proc, so theoretically after 39 swing, the next will Triple Attack.

Now, the Corazza would theoretically overlap with the Double Attack (whose second proc will happen after the 39th swing). So, I guess that the Triple Attack would actually over-take the Double Attack proc and the Double Attack would be reduced to 2.5% proc rate.

All theoretical of course! I'm probably barking up a catless tree, too.

[HolyDragoonSeraphus]

The reason it "gimps" brutal earring is this:

You have a 5% chance to Double Attack, so theoretically after 19 swings, the next one will Double Attack.

Now, Homam Corazza has a "2.5%" chance to proc, so theoretically after 39 swing, the next will Triple Attack.

Now, the Corazza would theoretically overlap with the Double Attack (whose second proc will happen after the 39th swing). So, I guess that the Triple Attack would actually over-take the Double Attack proc and the Double Attack would be reduced to 2.5% proc rate.

All theoretical of course! I'm probably barking up a catless tree, too.

:no

[Matarro]

If I'm allowed to speculate I'd guess it's more something like this:

Triple Attack procs before Double Attack. That means that on every swing where TA from Homam Corazza procs, the DA from Brutal Earring can't proc. I have no idea whether TA really does proc before DA, but since they say Homam Corazza gimps Brutal Earring and not the other way around, I'm guessing that's the case. Anyway, if this is the reason, then the ammount it gimps Brutal by is really small.

This is similar to what Jaybar suggested, except that since the distribution is random the chance for the two procs to "collide" is tiny. It should only be an issue if someone was stacking very large ammounts of DA and TA, and since that's not possible it's not worth paying much attention to.

Methinks...

Edit: Added stuff.

[Jaybar]

HolyDragoonSeraphus :

The reason it "gimps" brutal earring is this:

You have a 5% chance to Double Attack, so theoretically after 19 swings, the next one will Double Attack.

Now, Homam Corazza has a "2.5%" chance to proc, so theoretically after 39 swing, the next will Triple Attack.

Now, the Corazza would theoretically overlap with the Double Attack (whose second proc will happen after the 39th swing). So, I guess that the Triple Attack would actually over-take the Double Attack proc and the Double Attack would be reduced to 2.5% proc rate.

All theoretical of course! I'm probably barking up a catless tree, too.

:no

I highlighted a key phrase for you. This is clearly my thoughts. Thanks for letting me know it's wrong by using an emoticon and properly backing it up with support. I know it's probably wrong.

EDIT: And matarro is right about the margin to be very small in a real-time situation. In theory what I said could be true if in fact TA does overwrite a Double attack and procs work in a non-chaotic order. But because of the randomness, it makes it very hard to have TA overwrite DA, but the chance is still there (if it's there at all).

[Dragonhope]

TA overwriting DA...and that gimps Brutal Earring? Er...I think it's just me but that's like saying Double Attack is better then Triple Attack. I can't see the logic behind 2 swings being better then 3...

[Jaybar]

It means that the proc rate on Double Attack is actually a little bit lower than 5% due to an overwriting factor, whether it's 4.9 or what have you. If you could Double Attack inside of a Triple Attack then there would be no issue, but because one has to occur and not both at the same time then there is a small change in the proc rate of Brutal Earring.

My example a couple posts up was just showing how, in a non-random world, what would happen to the actual proc rate of Brutal Earring when you add Homam Body's Triple Attack. Obviously the randomness will spread the rate at which a Triple Attack and a Double Attack COULD happen at the same time.

[Lucavi]

Even if TA "gimps" DA, the percentage is so minute that anyone that would go out of their way to remove TA from their DA build for DA "purity" is an idiot. The only time you really don't want to get in the way of DA is when you're using weapons that attack multiple times, and love halberd isn't all that powerful anyway.

Now if we had a Ridill attached to a polearm, this would be another story...

[Jaybar]

Although, adding Askar Korazin to your already "Double Attack" build would be a far better upgrade than losing 15 accuracy.

[Dragonhope]

You guys are confusing me with all the complications. DA and TA do not stack. Each swing done, the game checks if it'll be a Triple or Double attack. First it'll check if it'll be a triple attack and if it is, that'll happen. If the check for triple attack fails, it'll check for double attack. If the check for double attack passes, it'll result in a double attack. Else it'll be a regular swing. It's all easy programming and the gear do not chance the chance by much. Even without the TA gear, you might still not get exactly 5% DA proc rate. No point in complicating things. If people still don't understand, I'm pretty sure it's easy to draw a diagram to show how it happens.

[Dragonhope]

I really need to finish updating this some day...>.<