[madseth]

wats wrong w/ wearing af i wear everything except the body and i put my af body on wen wyv is hurt but until i got my SH i used all af

[Tomiko]

madseth :
wats wrong w/ wearing af i wear everything except the body and i put my af body on wen wyv is hurt but until i got my SH i used all af

Drachen Helm: (good for when /mage)
Waulkere Mask, Valk Mask, Voyager Sallet and Emp Pin (maybe?) are all better.

Drachen Mail: (good for capping wyvern's hp between fights)
Jaridah Peti & Scorpion Harness are both better.

Drachen Finger Gauntlets: (good for soloing imo duo to parry skill)
Spike Finger Gauntlets and Custom M Gloves (in your case) are both better unless you really need the acc for your wyvern.

Drachen Brais: (solo & /mage gear)
Republic Subligar will help alot more than AF in a party.

Drachen Greaves: (jumps, soloing and /mage)
Leaping Boots are one of the only decent alternatives to these (for Hume atleast), so I don't see these as being too bad. But Marine M Boots @62 are much better.


Personally I see all the AF as situational. When I go as /mage, that's probably the only time I wear the majority of it (I use 4/5 and switch in Body to cap Wyvern Hp on occassion). The defensive boosts on Feet and Hands* are nice in addition to the overall HP boost which lets me use Healing Breath sooner (with BQ ring I currently have it trigger at 597hp or less @61). In a party situation though, you want offensive stats which is why many/most say not to wear AF.


*I also have capped evasion merits from Nin as well as near capped parrying (for 61 Drg), so I'm sure the boots from AF help those proc rates since I do see a decent amount of procs on both vs Lesser Colibri.

[skywarp]

Tomiko :
Drachen Brais: (solo & /mage gear)
Republic Subligar will help alot more than AF in a party.

If you are macroing in af helm to make wyvern pick proper breath, and not fighting mobs with AOE TP attack, I'm certain the +10% wyvern hp will add more total damage than a measly 5 atk would. I honestly kept af pants untill dusk, and than I dumped those for af+1 pants.

I swear to god I'm the only dragoon in existance to ever care about total drg+wyvern damage. I've never even seen another person macro in af/af2 helm for breath attack.

Same thing with battle gloves vs af gloves, you would only gain 1.5 acc and lose like 20 wyvern acc(I think that's what it is.) Spike finger gauntlets are the best choice pre-70, but if you can't afford them, just stick with af hands untill you can.

[Wolf~Knight]

for level should add Engetsuto/+1 as alt to colossal lance the other 70s lances; also Personally for AF/2(dont have 2) I think Hecatomb cap makes bigger difference than my AF+1 helm for wyvern.

[Dragonhope]

Has there been any tests done with the Engetsutos yet? I've been waiting to see if anyone has gotten a chance to test it out yet before adding them on. Might need to find people to do level 70 capped Assaults to test it in though I think.

[Wolf~Knight]

Dragonhope :
Has there been any tests done with the Engetsutos yet? I've been waiting to see if anyone has gotten a chance to test it out yet before adding them on. Might need to find people to do level 70 capped Assaults to test it in though I think.

test what to test there no odd effects on it at all Stats:
85dmg/480 Delay/+2acc. +1 store tp(HQ -16 delay +1 to stats)
Pahl. seraweels should be listed since they non-CoP related at all and offer acc and good bit of str; I still think them better than gay kurrea pants.
Barb. Zerehs with same haste as homam and most str we can get on leg slot(one more than Conte or Pahl.) they are pretty good; espically for ppl without sea.
Also Dark Merzaq +1 is agrueable best lance til gae bolg/colossal lance/etc; atleast rivals GKL and Cermet +1; NQ is decent; so should be listed.

[Tomiko]

Wolf~Knight :
Also Dark Merzaq +1 is agrueable best lance til gae bolg/colossal lance/etc; atleast rivals GKL and Cermet +1

Oddly enough the one that's been made on Unicorn has been relisted at least 3-4 times. Kinda hard to compete with GKL at that level when comparing cost/effectiveness.

(Above is reposted since I had to delete my previous post)


Recently I've been looking over the earring situation and had some questions.

After Assault Earring I changed my other Spike Earring to a Merman's Earring. Next level (67) Triumph Earrings become an option. Is the 2 Str from these worth the ~1.7m cost? At this point I'm thinking of skipping them until my other equipment desires are fulfilled but I thought I'd ask in case they do make a noticable difference.

Thanks.

[Sammonoske]

Tomiko :

Wolf~Knight :
Also Dark Merzaq +1 is agrueable best lance til gae bolg/colossal lance/etc; atleast rivals GKL and Cermet +1

Oddly enough the one that's been made on Unicorn has been relisted at least 3-4 times. Kinda hard to compete with GKL at that level when comparing cost/effectiveness.

(Above is reposted since I had to delete my previous post)


Recently I've been looking over the earring situation and had some questions.

After Assault Earring I changed my other Spike Earring to a Merman's Earring. Next level (67) Triumph Earrings become an option. Is the 2 Str from these worth the ~1.7m cost? At this point I'm thinking of skipping them until my other equipment desires are fulfilled but I thought I'd ask in case they do make a noticable difference.

Thanks.

Hmm no, IMO no. 70+ should worry about str, and 1-69 need to worry about acc more than str.. Didnt list 70 because of Ohat.. Early str (equip slot here) just cost to much..
Why get 2/4 str for 1.7/3.4mil when 70+ you can get roughly 20-25 str for less than 300k..? Save up for Flame Rings.

[Dragonhope]

I don't have a Triumph earring nor did I use it. I don't think the +2 STR is going to make a huge difference in wheeling thrust damage in an xp pt so it's better to just keep the Merman's. I don't know how you can get 20-25 STR for less then 300k but if you're going for STR, you'd want at least one Flame Ring (you can use Rajas in the other if you can get it). But by the time you can equip Flame rings, the only time you'd be using Wheeling Thrust is for HNMs and gods so you won't really need to buy them unless you'll be using DRG when facing HNMs and gods.

[Sammonoske]

My server is just realy cheap..
30k each for ruby rings. (att)
Wyvern helm bounces 70k-100k
Warwolf belt.. 15k or less..
and Narashima's vest is like.. -30k i think..(added this for ws..)
You might also have Chiv chain O.o lvl 60 though.. free or 1mil lol...

That would go around 190-250k-ish..
Note that i didnt provide barone legs.. leg price bounces all over...

[Dragonhope]

Oh...that makes sense.

Wyvern Helm = 100-110k now
Ruby Ring = 70k each (so 2 would bw 140k)
Narasimha's Vest = 100k

So that would've put it over 300k on my server already.

[Floppychow]

i'm only a 34 noob DRG but what about Volans Greaves?

Lvl 38 DRG
Def: 9
Jump: Acc +4

At least to Macro in for Jump..
Drops of NM pugil Serra on Bibiki Bay- Purgonorgo Isle.
Sells for around 180k on Midgard.

[Mercu]

Floppychow :
i'm only a 34 noob DRG but what about Volans Greaves?

Lvl 38 DRG
Def: 9
Jump: Acc +4

At least to Macro in for Jump..
Drops of NM pugil Serra on Bibiki Bay- Purgonorgo Isle.
Sells for around 180k on Midgard.

I wore volans only when I would exp in regions my nation never controlled.

[Dragonhope]

I consider volan's a waste of money. If you want to go camp the NM for it, ok. But it's really not worth more then 10-20k in my opinion. No one ever camps the NM either so...all you'd really need it patience.

It's better to have +4 acc all the time then +4 acc only on jumps but it's better to have +4 acc on jumps then no +acc at all

[Mercu]

Yeah no way I was buying the greaves for 200k(what they were back when I was around that lvl). My friend actually camped them for me as a birthday gift. Forgot about that ._. Though they at least did something compared to republic forgotthename when your nation doesn't controll the area and you won't get the +acc or +atk.

[Dragonhope]

Yea...I used Winged Boots that I had...I guess Volan's greaves are cheaper compared to those >.>

[Mercu]

Well yea they are freaking show off..... :plain

[Nibbles]

Hydra finger gauntlets? ._.

[Wolf~Knight]

hydra gear should be added for gloves and body maybe feet.

[kaa]

I have a quick question Whats a good leg piece to wear in th 40-50 lvl range?