Not every HNM LS does, sometimes there is 1 or 2 in the LS that no one knows about, but alot of LS's make it clear and alot of there members bot. Sleeping it isn't really a noob tatic either, it's just due to the fact that even with a strong linkshell, darters are going to get claimed so if one does those need to get taken care of and also, people need to line up with Fafnirs feet and sometimes this requires a sleep, or in other cases he spams wing when you claim him and you have to sleep it until the rest of the group can get to faffy.
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#23
Posted 12 January 2007 - 01:01 AM
Also you may wanna add for fafnir/nidhogg. Nidhogg is a 3-7 day spawn so if you just killed it the night before you don't have to worry. You won't have to worry until the third day. Usually he doesn't pop on the third day, but it is very much possible.
#24
Posted 18 January 2007 - 11:08 AM
blade bash was fixed at the october update and is no longer ranged. it now works like shield/weapon bash. samurai have no job ability for claiming purposes.
#25
Posted 18 January 2007 - 12:42 PM
I don't think you mentioned this, Kaziel, but the majority of area attacks used by the enemies will only cause damage to the people in the alliance which currently has aggro. For example, Fafnir's breath, spike flail, and wing attacks will only injure people in range who are also in the alliance currently fighting him.
This is not true for all NMs. Nidhogg, the HQ version of Fafnir, will cause damage to anybody who is in range. In these cases it is usually a good idea to get as far from the NM if you're not currently fighting them.
Another thing I think you should add is that there are more to forced spawn NMs than just quests and Sky. For one thing I don't believe quest NMs really fall into the same category since they don't actually drop any items. They're just monsters you need to kill to complete a storyline. On the other hand NMs like Shen and Gration are forced spawned NMs which drop the items they're killed for.
The things which make forced spawn NMs unique is that they require players to acquire specific items before hand, and these items must be traded to a specific location to cause the NM to appear. These NMs are usually unrelated to any quests and will drop unique items if defeated. In most cases the NM can be respawned 15 minutes after the previous one has been defeated. Examples include sky gods, sea jailors, and several other NMs throughout the world.
There's another kind of NM spawn which you also failed to mention. I don't know what you would call this, but it occurs when you kill an NMs placeholder and the NM immediately spawns upon its death to attack you. The only NM that spawns like this which I know of is Biast.
Another unique form of NM spawning in Lamia No.19. She only spawns when a player dies within her spawn area.
Edit: Oh yeah, there's also the multi-spawn NMs, like the Carmine Dobsonflies, where multiple NMs all share the same spawn time.
This is not true for all NMs. Nidhogg, the HQ version of Fafnir, will cause damage to anybody who is in range. In these cases it is usually a good idea to get as far from the NM if you're not currently fighting them.
Another thing I think you should add is that there are more to forced spawn NMs than just quests and Sky. For one thing I don't believe quest NMs really fall into the same category since they don't actually drop any items. They're just monsters you need to kill to complete a storyline. On the other hand NMs like Shen and Gration are forced spawned NMs which drop the items they're killed for.
The things which make forced spawn NMs unique is that they require players to acquire specific items before hand, and these items must be traded to a specific location to cause the NM to appear. These NMs are usually unrelated to any quests and will drop unique items if defeated. In most cases the NM can be respawned 15 minutes after the previous one has been defeated. Examples include sky gods, sea jailors, and several other NMs throughout the world.
There's another kind of NM spawn which you also failed to mention. I don't know what you would call this, but it occurs when you kill an NMs placeholder and the NM immediately spawns upon its death to attack you. The only NM that spawns like this which I know of is Biast.
Another unique form of NM spawning in Lamia No.19. She only spawns when a player dies within her spawn area.
Edit: Oh yeah, there's also the multi-spawn NMs, like the Carmine Dobsonflies, where multiple NMs all share the same spawn time.
#26
Posted 06 February 2007 - 09:09 AM
whm looses claim on NMs because the have emn- gear on not because they dont have a high powered weapon other than that nice guide for starters
#27
Posted 15 February 2007 - 02:15 AM
Since the block /ja /ma ect update; insta-claim really isnt a good choice in most situations.
If you're having alot of competition, best choice is to not use a instant-claim JA, at least from my experience. If that's all you have, wait a second after spawn, then try and claim.
btw Bard can claim very fast and consistently with ..hmm probably a number of songs, but I see them using elegy more than anything. Pair that with some song casting % down gear like Minstrel's Ring, and it get's very fast claim 'without' being instant.
Thief also has a great tool for claiming called /ra. Throwing darts, is similar to magic casting as you dont claim until you actually throw the dart. There's still a bit of delay with it, unfortunately if not in your line of sight and you move during the animation you'll get that 'move and interrupt your aim' message.
The repop for mobs is a set time according to the vanadiel clock; i've done alot of NM hunting in my day and I'd say I'm 100% sure on that. It differs from mob to mob though. This, of course, wouldnt apply to the 'updated' NMs in Castle O. and SSG, ect.
btw a ToD of a mob begins when the name begins to fade, again, from what I've observed.
Good work, and hope you keep working on this.
If you're having alot of competition, best choice is to not use a instant-claim JA, at least from my experience. If that's all you have, wait a second after spawn, then try and claim.
btw Bard can claim very fast and consistently with ..hmm probably a number of songs, but I see them using elegy more than anything. Pair that with some song casting % down gear like Minstrel's Ring, and it get's very fast claim 'without' being instant.
Thief also has a great tool for claiming called /ra. Throwing darts, is similar to magic casting as you dont claim until you actually throw the dart. There's still a bit of delay with it, unfortunately if not in your line of sight and you move during the animation you'll get that 'move and interrupt your aim' message.
The repop for mobs is a set time according to the vanadiel clock; i've done alot of NM hunting in my day and I'd say I'm 100% sure on that. It differs from mob to mob though. This, of course, wouldnt apply to the 'updated' NMs in Castle O. and SSG, ect.
btw a ToD of a mob begins when the name begins to fade, again, from what I've observed.
Good work, and hope you keep working on this.
#28
Posted 17 February 2007 - 12:20 PM
Short, yet ranged BLU spells pre- Cannonball are Wild Oats, Feather Storm, and Jet Stream. Equipping the last 2 gives you Rapid Shot giving you a chance to cast the spells faster and/or speed up a ranged weapon. Definitely a plus to NM pulling with ranged.
#29
Posted 30 March 2007 - 10:17 AM
Angon is a good claiming tool for lvl 75 DRGs, about double the range of Jumps. And yea, super jump doesn't even make the mob go red so that's useless for claiming.
#30
Posted 09 September 2007 - 11:39 AM
/targetnpc
/ja "Provoke"
*win*
Note: this will target nearest monster to you and sometimes doesnt work because of the update with claim delay (targeting a monster to fast and using a spell or Job Ability) but if you decide to change the macro to look like this :
/targetnpc
/wait 1
/ja "Provoke"
it works alot more, also just to add this macro only works when you have no other monsters around you etc if your camping Fafnir there is no darters up and you know they arent going to spawn during window time (one of many situations this macro is handy) the macro will become alot more effective.
/ja "Provoke"
*win*
Note: this will target nearest monster to you and sometimes doesnt work because of the update with claim delay (targeting a monster to fast and using a spell or Job Ability) but if you decide to change the macro to look like this :
/targetnpc
/wait 1
/ja "Provoke"
it works alot more, also just to add this macro only works when you have no other monsters around you etc if your camping Fafnir there is no darters up and you know they arent going to spawn during window time (one of many situations this macro is handy) the macro will become alot more effective.
#31
Posted 10 September 2007 - 01:41 AM
Angon is an ability, not a ranged attack. The correct macro would be "/ja "Angon" ".
Very confusing, since it uses a ranged weapon. but there you have it.
Very confusing, since it uses a ranged weapon. but there you have it.
#32
Posted 10 September 2007 - 07:30 AM
Always. I repeat always research your NMs. To do this just go on Allakhazam -> NM page and to your NM,
This is the only problem I have with the guide. Everything else is great though.
#33
Posted 29 February 2008 - 04:14 AM
One thing I thought you might want to add about Cor claiming is that not only is Quick Draw extremely fast, but if it is a lower level mob and you are 75Cor, you can use Sleep Light Shot Quick Draw. On lower level mobs, the Sleep effect will usually last over 1min meaning that by the time it wakes you can re-sleep it. This gives Cor a great advantage for those that can't get a THF to help you camp. Many times I have found that I can't get a THF to help camp, but they will run out after you've claimed to help kill with TH. So if you can sleep it, then you can hold it till they arrive.
This was especially helpful for me on VE. I would sleep VE until a THF from my shell would OP warp to the desert and kill it for me on TH. This is good for them because they don't have to wait around camping, and good for you because you can hold it till they arrive.
You will hit a wall though, so check the NM's level. At 75COR, any mob over 60 you will begin having problems with RACC of QD and the mob waking before timer is up.
This was especially helpful for me on VE. I would sleep VE until a THF from my shell would OP warp to the desert and kill it for me on TH. This is good for them because they don't have to wait around camping, and good for you because you can hold it till they arrive.
You will hit a wall though, so check the NM's level. At 75COR, any mob over 60 you will begin having problems with RACC of QD and the mob waking before timer is up.
#35
Posted 05 January 2009 - 07:27 PM
For Claiming Darts are also nice not sure if u got that in there or not they have 168 and u can buy them off a npc in slebina
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