[Kayalan]

Ive been using Demon Slayer. Sometimes Ifrit's if I'm using more spells than just Cannonball.

[Villian]

I use wing cuz +str and +vit when all I do is cannonball.

[Kaslo]

Villian :
I use wing cuz +str and +vit when all I do is cannonball.

^ This if I had it <,<

I find better numbers from ifrit's over Goldie.

[(Delequiox)]

Villian :
I use wing cuz +str and +vit when all I do is cannonball.

[Lordender]

heh

[Sabishii Kouen]

Lordender :
Vulcan staff > anything in the game with cannonball as long as your SA'ing it. When you hit 600 def, you need to go all str to see a big jump in damage.

Tested it, was better than any sword.

Except you lose your TP, you can't GAIN TP while wielding it because you can't hit crap with it (since we have no native staff skill), and you can't solo light with it. Not to mention it's very expensive. You can get more damage wielding Ifrit's Blade and being able to fight until you get +100% TP and THEN CA + SA + Cannonball, rather than using CA + SA with an extra 2 STR and 0% TP.

[Kaslo]

Sabishii Kouen :

Lordender :
Vulcan staff > anything in the game with cannonball as long as your SA'ing it. When you hit 600 def, you need to go all str to see a big jump in damage.

Tested it, was better than any sword.

Except you lose your TP, you can't GAIN TP while wielding it because you can't hit crap with it (since we have no native staff skill), and you can't solo light with it. Not to mention it's very expensive. You can get more damage wielding Ifrit's Blade and being able to fight until you get +100% TP and THEN CA + SA + Cannonball, rather than using CA + SA with an extra 2 STR and 0% TP.

And where would you be getting TP on Kirin? Endgame I use my Fire Staff for quite a few spells.

[Majae]

Opo-Opo Necklace + Sleeping Potions FTW

[Kaslo]

Majae :
Opo-Opo Necklace + Sleeping Potions FTW

And how can you not do that with a staff equiped?

[Villian]

Lordender :
Vulcan staff > anything in the game with cannonball as long as your SA'ing it. When you hit 600 def, you need to go all str to see a big jump in damage.

Tested it, was better than any sword.

I also test it and cant find anything different O_o.

[Majae]

Kaslo :

Majae :
Opo-Opo Necklace + Sleeping Potions FTW

And how can you not do that with a staff equiped?

My point exactlty.

For those that say you can't gain TP with a staff equiped on endgame mobs, go buy some potions and a necklace, and "wah-lah TP gain.

[Montgomery]

Question about your gear in the SS Dele.. if you don't have the Homam (I'm guessing thats Homam :x), what do you suggest for that slot?

[Omegademon]

Finally got Protecting Bangles ^^ Here is my current Cannonball gear.

Main: Wing Sword +1
Shield: Archeron
Head: Elite Beret
Body: AF
Back: Amemet +1
Neck: RR Gorget
Hands: Protecting Bangles
Waist: Warworlf Belt
Ears: No def item for them yet.
Rings: Phalanx x2
Legs: Prince's Slops
Feet: Root Sabots

[Montgomery]

Ooh O.o; is the double earth weather for that nm to spawn a rare occurance? I might be camping those as my 75 DRG/RDM soon

[Omegademon]

mmmm I didn't camp it too much, I checked the weather NPC at rabao to see when there was a chance of sandstorms. On days there was I went and camped it.

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So after you reach 600 def with food and buff defense damage increase for cannonball becomes less than that of str?

[Villian]

[Montgomery]

So... Altepa Desert Weather = Quicksand caves weather? >_< He doesn't have the caves listed for weather forecast @_@

[(Delequiox)]

Montgomery :
Question about your gear in the SS Dele.. if you don't have the Homam (I'm guessing thats Homam :x), what do you suggest for that slot?

Protecting Bangles

Rune Bangles

Crimson Gauntlets

Dusk Gloves

Light Gauntlets


In that order, in situations where you have enough time to engage for Rune effect, they're greater than Protecting Bangles ever so lightly (for the MP cost of rune for slightly more DEF, the difference will probably be unnoticeable.) If your DEF modifier is capped (as mentioned earlier) go with Light Gauntlets for a VIT/STR modifier.

[Chiji]

gigas line hands work well to for a decent defense and str

[Zeosilot]

My stats for Cannonball Build is as follows:
291 Blue Magic Skill
53+51 = 104 Strength
56+23 = 79 Vit
321 Defense (unbuffed)
850 Defense (with Protect IV, Cocoon, Tav. Taco, Minne IV, & III )

My current gear consists of:

Wing Sword (NQ... I'm saving for +1)
Genbu Shield (Could get an Archeron but... Genbu Shield is free and my Unbuffed defense is high enough? < (Opinions Welcome)
Tiphia Sting
Crimson Mask
Chivalrous Chain
Suppanomimi (Plan to get Triumph)
Brutal Earring (Plan to get Triumph)
Magus Jubbah
Creek M Mitts
Flame Ring
Flame Ring
Amemet Mantle +1
Warwolf Belt
Crimson Cuisses
Creek M Clomps

I'm thinking... all I really need is Wing Sword +1, Triumph Earring x2, Forager's Mantle (or an unlikely Cerb +1, lol), and..... Arguably a Voyager Sallet? Voyager Sallet is hella pro with +3 str and +4 dex but dex isn't a modifier in this spell so does the +3 Str outweigh the 34 Defense (+regen) that Crimson Mask delivers? (I plan to get Voyager Sallet either way because dex is good for many other spells, just... want info on cannonball specifically).

With the above stats.... I did a nice 2227 Cannonball to a too weak "lost soul" in Behemoth's Dominion... lol


Added:

I just read some of the earlier posts and acknowledge the potential of the Vulcan's Staff. All I really want to know is... is using Vulvan's Staff full time a better option than investing in a Wing Sword +1 or are there situations where you would be able to use (and TP with) a Wing Sword to enhance your spell damage through CA?


Added more

So I was bored, and decided to see how my gear has changed from what it once was. New items are in bold, and the list is as follows:

Demon Slayer (my wing sword was better, but I sold it for gil until I have what I need for Wing Sword +1.... and I decided against the use of the Vulcan's Staff because I don't think +2 Str > +24 Defense from Genbu's Shield).
Genbu Shield
Bibiki Seashell
Crimson Mask
Chivalrous Chain
Triumph Earring
Minuet Earring (Plan to get a second Triumph)
Magus Jubbah
Pallas's Bracelets (now that these are cheap, +9 Str > +6 Str and +2 Vit)
Flame Ring
Flame Ring
Cerberus Mantle (<3 being in a pro hnmls)
Warwolf Belt
Majus Shalwar (Defense is high enough with these pants on and offer 3 Vit so I believe for me they beat Crimson Cuisses).
Creek M Clomps

That gear brings me to a nice sum of 322 Defense with no buffs on. 54+56 110 Str followed by 57+33 Vit = 90 Vit

Any... further recommendations?