ok, so for a quick over-view the objective with these sets is to reach 300+ resitance with whm barspells (af2 legs and full merits) and brd carol (crumhorn +1) so that you can resist 90-95% of attacks from that element (specifically used against jorm, tiamat, ouryu and baha2)
so without further ado here are the setups that you should be aiming to collect for each element:
Fire Resistance:
167 fire resistance 182 max
Main: Hrotti (15)
Shield: Numinous shield (15)
Ranged: Cerberus Bow (13)
Head: Black Ribbon (12)
Neck: Jeweled Collar (10)
Ear1: Ruby Earring (10)
Ear2: Ruby Earring (10)
Body: Assault Breastplate (15)
Body: Bastokan Harness (5)
Hands: Tarasque Mitts (5)
Ring1: Malflame Ring (9)
Ring2: Ruby Ring (9)
Back: Cerberus Mantle (10)
Belt: Water Belt (20)
Legs: Crimson Cuisses (20)
Feet: Power Sandals (7)
Ice Resistance:
total resistance: 154, magic def bonus +6
Main: Vulcan's Staff (20) (if using a ice shield +1 use hrotti instead of this staff)
Shield: Ice Shield+1 (25)
Ranged: Lamia Kaman +1 (2mdb)
Head: Black ribbon (12)
Neck: Jeweled Collar (10)
Ear1: Ruby Earring (10)
Ear2: Ruby Earring (10)
Body: Assault Breastplate (15)
Hands: Feral Gloves (4)
Ring1: Malfrost Ring (9)
Ring2: Diamond Ring (9)
Back: High Breath Mantle (5)
Belt: Fire Belt (20)
Legs: Tiger Trousers (4)
Feet: Crimson Boots (20)
Earth Resistance:
163 with most of the easy items.
Main: Austers Staff (20)
Main: Club of Trials (10)
Sub: Numinous Shield +1 (15)
Ranged: Lamian Kaman +1 (2mdb)
Head: Black Ribbon (12)
Neck: Jeweled Collar (10)
Ear1: Topaz Earring (10)
Ear2: Topaz Earring (10)
Body: Assault Breastplate (+15) Gaia Doublet +1 (12)
Hands: Sand Gloves (11)
Ring1: Maldust Ring (10)
Ring2: Topaz Ring (9)
Back: Gaia Mantle +1 (12)
Belt: Wind Belt (20)
Legs: Beak trousers +1 (7)
Feet: Crimson Greaves (+20)
ok, these are gear sets that frodorn came up with to counter proto-ultima's citedel buster and baha2's gigaflares:
Base Magic Dmg Taken
-32% magic damage taken and +4 Magic Def Bonus (note, if your whm has capped shellra V merits you need only equip -27% magic damage taken)
Sub: Palmerin's Shield (-2%)
Range: Lamian Kaman +1 (-2%)
Head: Coral Visor +1 (-2%)
Ear1: Merman's Earring (-2%)
Ear2: Merman's Earring (-2%)
Body: Coral Scale Mail +1 (-4%)
Hands: Coral Finger Gauntlets +1 (-2%)
Ring1: Merman's Ring (-4%)
Ring2: Merman's Ring (-4%)
Back: Resentment Cape (-5%)
Waist: Resolute Belt (-2%)
Legs: Coral Cuisses +1 (-3%)
Feet: Coral Greaves +1 (-2%)
Base Hit Points:
+575 HP
Main: Tutelary (+30hp)
Sub: Januwiyah (+25hp)
Range: Fenrir's Stone (+30hp)
Head: Walahra Turban (+30hp)
Neck: Tempered Chain (+20hp)
Ear1: Cassie Earring (+50hp)
Ear2: Intruder Earring (+40hp)
Body: Valor Surcoat (+23hp)
Hands: Pallas's Bracelets (+35hp)
Ring1: Bomb Queen Ring (+75hp)
Ring2: Bloodbead Ring (+50hp)
Back: Gigant Mantle (+80hp)
Waist: Forest Sash (+30hp)
Legs: Homam Cosciales (+26hp)
Feet: Homam Gambieras (+31hp)
1500 Dmg Blend
Range: *
Head: *
Neck: Tempered Chain
Ear1: Cassie Earring
Ear2: Intruder Earring
Body: Coral Scale Mail +1
Hands: Pallas's Bracelets
Ring1: Bomb Queen Ring
Ring2: Merman's Ring
Back: Gigant Mantle
Waist: *
Legs: Coral Cuisses +1
Feet: Homam Gambieras
2000 Damage Blend
Main: Tutelary
Sub: Junuwiya
Range: Lamian Kaman
Head: Coral Visor +1
Neck: Tempered Chain
Ear1: Cassie Earring
Ear2: *
Body: Coral Scale Mail +1
Hands: Coral Finger Gauntlets +1
Ring1: Merman's Ring
Ring2: Merman's Ring
Back: *
Waist: Resolute Belt
Legs: Coral Cuisses +1
Feet: Coral Greaves +1
“*”: Hp Item and -%M.dmg item are Equal at that level of Dmg
Items Left Out
Koenig Cuirass: Available, would be Coral @1500 Dmg but not 2000
Koenig Diechlings: Available, would be Coral @1500 Dmg but not 2000
Ataractic Solea: Available, a ???Head from SM Assault, @+4 MDB and +22Hp they beat everything
Shadow Ring: To Random, MDB on Darkday...
well, yesterday was a big day for me, i got my aegis... and thus it's time to start building yet another build.
The Aegis Build:
ok, so with aegis and shellraV fully merited you can only equip another -2% magic damage taken, before all further increases do nothing (your at the 50% cap), the only way to further reduce magic damage is through magic def bonus gear. so here is the setup (equip -4% magic damage taken if the whm only has 1 shellraV merit)
Total MDB = +19 MDB
Range: Lamian Kaman +1 (+2 MDB)
Head: Storm Turban (+2 MDB from Troll fugitives assault, SP, Lebros Cavern ??? headgear)
Neck: No MDB options
Ear1: Merman's Earring (-2% magic damage taken)
Ear2: *Merman's Earring (-2% magic damage taken)
Body: No MDB options
Ring1: Unfettered Ring (+2 MDB)
Ring2: Volunteers Ring (+3 MDB from Gulool Ja Ja)
Back: Lamia Mantle +1 (+4 MDB)
Belt: Resolute Belt (+2 MDB)
Legs: No MDB options
Feet: Ataratic Solea (+4 MDB from Azure Experiments, SM, Luejoaom Sanctum ??? Feet)
* this second earring is only used when your whm has level 1 or 2 shellra V, otherwise there is no mdb option for that slot and it should be ignored.
i didn't count the static earring because i chose ethereal, and i didn't include shadow ring because the mdb is not allways on.
Paladin Resitance builds 101
#2
Posted 20 February 2007 - 02:41 PM
Highlulu :
ok, so for a quick over-view the objective with these sets is to reach 300+ resitance with whm barspells (af2 legs and full merits) and brd carol (crumhorn +1) so that you can resist 90-95% of attacks from that element (specifically used against jorm, tiamat, ouryu and baha2)
ok, so for a quick over-view the objective with these sets is to reach 300+ resitance with whm barspells (af2 legs and full merits) and brd carol (crumhorn +1) so that you can resist 90-95% of attacks from that element (specifically used against jorm, tiamat, ouryu and baha2)
I wouldn't Recommend a Fire Set for Baha2... Only Real Fire Damage you should be Eating is...
MegaFlare: a Joke
GigaFlare: 1000~1500'ish dmg
TeraFlare: Hello Dirt
Firaga: Should be Stuned
All others Should be Blinked
Gigaflare being the only real Worry, is Extreamly Hard to Resist even @ 300+, You are much better off using an Hp build to bite that Bullet.
Other then Assault Breastplate, which is Insanely Rare... the rest of your Builds look very Solid.
#3
Posted 20 February 2007 - 02:59 PM
ah, well fair enough on that point, i was just listing out the gear setups for members of my ls that were wondering and decided i would copy and paste over to here so the info was easy for other pld's to find (twas a pain in the ass searching for all the gear on somepage ect.)
i read your thread on the citedel busters and baha2 setups, with your permission i would like to copy/paste them into this thread so it can be stickied for quick and easily accessible information.
edit: yeah assault breastplate is rare as fuck, but i had trouble finding ice resist or fire resist options for body slot, any suggestions?
i read your thread on the citedel busters and baha2 setups, with your permission i would like to copy/paste them into this thread so it can be stickied for quick and easily accessible information.
edit: yeah assault breastplate is rare as fuck, but i had trouble finding ice resist or fire resist options for body slot, any suggestions?
#4
Posted 20 February 2007 - 03:00 PM
personally, i wouldn't go with any of ur glove items that you mentioned.
You do need ~some~ enmity, VIT, or HP to tank, even if it's in resistance builds. Otherwise you get that feeling of not being able to hold hate, and your resistance build goes to waste.
5 resist on the gloves you mentioned? I'd go with Valor or even Koenig for the HP/VIT/enmity.
You do need ~some~ enmity, VIT, or HP to tank, even if it's in resistance builds. Otherwise you get that feeling of not being able to hold hate, and your resistance build goes to waste.
5 resist on the gloves you mentioned? I'd go with Valor or even Koenig for the HP/VIT/enmity.
#5
Posted 20 February 2007 - 03:17 PM
what is that, like 25 items? No thanks. why not go fo like 5-6 magical defense gears instead of elemental resist and be done with it?
#6
Posted 20 February 2007 - 03:24 PM
Aeonknight :
personally, i wouldn't go with any of ur glove items that you mentioned.
You do need ~some~ enmity, VIT, or HP to tank, even if it's in resistance builds. Otherwise you get that feeling of not being able to hold hate, and your resistance build goes to waste.
5 resist on the gloves you mentioned? I'd go with Valor or even Koenig for the HP/VIT/enmity.
personally, i wouldn't go with any of ur glove items that you mentioned.
You do need ~some~ enmity, VIT, or HP to tank, even if it's in resistance builds. Otherwise you get that feeling of not being able to hold hate, and your resistance build goes to waste.
5 resist on the gloves you mentioned? I'd go with Valor or even Koenig for the HP/VIT/enmity.
Most of these resist sets should be macro ins like when a wyrm flys ect. In those cases VIT(like most cases) is worthless and HP won't be an issue, because the amount of dmg you'll be taking from purely magic based attacks will be so little due to the resist. With resist sets a very low about of resist can make a huge difference surprisingly.
I have experimented with resist sets and MDB/-%dmg. I personally prefer MDB and % dmg rather then even worrying about a full resist set, because taking dmg is needed in order to gain hate via cures and keep a good balance of hate between your tanks, which is a huge part of pld/nin. Just my personal opinion depends mostly what jobs you tank with.
#7
Posted 20 February 2007 - 03:35 PM
Aeonknight :
personally, i wouldn't go with any of ur glove items that you mentioned.
You do need ~some~ enmity, VIT, or HP to tank, even if it's in resistance builds. Otherwise you get that feeling of not being able to hold hate, and your resistance build goes to waste.
5 resist on the gloves you mentioned? I'd go with Valor or even Koenig for the HP/VIT/enmity.
personally, i wouldn't go with any of ur glove items that you mentioned.
You do need ~some~ enmity, VIT, or HP to tank, even if it's in resistance builds. Otherwise you get that feeling of not being able to hold hate, and your resistance build goes to waste.
5 resist on the gloves you mentioned? I'd go with Valor or even Koenig for the HP/VIT/enmity.
These Sets are only used while the NM is in the Air... at that Point There are NO Physical attack so Vit is worthless, time spent in the Air is Short, and getting to that 90% resist of Damage does Wonders for your Hate. There is a Massive Different in getting hit for 250 Dmg and 25 Dmg. If your getting hit for 25 dmg normal hits and WS/Spells are hitting for like 150... Base Hp is more then enough to keep you alive. I Find that its hard to even Cure for Hate i'm taking So little Dmg.
WillrikerOdin :
what is that, like 25 items? No thanks. why not go fo like 5-6 magical defense gears instead of elemental resist and be done with it?
what is that, like 25 items? No thanks. why not go fo like 5-6 magical defense gears instead of elemental resist and be done with it?
MDB gear and -% M.dmg gear is hard to come by, and really only Shines on Very Larger Attack that are Next to impossible to Resist Reliable. Resistance sets are a Massive Pain in the Ass to Store... but Far Superior when Tanking these Mobs in the Air. Not Saying it cant be Done with a set like that... just that a Resistance Set Blows it away.
Highlulu: Copy, Paste... what ever man hehehe that Tread has more over become my own Ramblings on the Gear set i'm working on for Baha/Ultima
Vygun: LOL says the guy with Aegis... heheh ya if i had -25% M.dmg in one Hawt little Slot like that also I'd Stick to a MDB gear and -% M.dmg for everything also. You got to be Pushing at least ~50% M.dmg Reduction in gear and with Full Buffs more likely +70%... Its a Little Different Situation for a Pld without Aegis...
#8
Posted 20 February 2007 - 04:24 PM
Frodorn :
Vygun: LOL says the guy with Aegis... heheh ya if i had -25% M.dmg in one Hawt little Slot like that also I'd Stick to a MDB gear and -% M.dmg for everything also. You got to be Pushing at least ~50% M.dmg Reduction in gear and with Full Buffs more likely +70%... Its a Little Different Situation for a Pld without Aegis...
Vygun: LOL says the guy with Aegis... heheh ya if i had -25% M.dmg in one Hawt little Slot like that also I'd Stick to a MDB gear and -% M.dmg for everything also. You got to be Pushing at least ~50% M.dmg Reduction in gear and with Full Buffs more likely +70%... Its a Little Different Situation for a Pld without Aegis...
meh didn't always have Aegis. Even before Aegis I would focus on -% dmg and MDB (more so -% dmg, because MDB gear wasn't very common at the time). I did use around 50-60 fire resist worth of eqp. That with fire carol, plus a whm who has all the gear and bar spell merits was more then enough to put me at the kind of dmg I like to take in the air, because I don't like taking next to no damage as I stated before due to balancing hate with co tanks and curing for hate ect.
edit: in the above i'm referring to tiamat if it wasn't obvious.
edit again: Both work well and combined they are great. Mixing and matching is always a plus. Not saying full fire resist is bad, because its not. Its all really a matter of preference and how much money you have to spend as well as what gear is available to you.
#9
Posted 20 February 2007 - 04:55 PM
okie, thanks for the advice, i added in your gear sets frodorn, thanks for letting me copy those ^^.
#10
Posted 21 February 2007 - 09:43 AM
There are also Mal-Frost/Flame/Flood/Dust ect rings you can add to hose builds. Gives you +1 more in the ring slot.
#11
Posted 21 February 2007 - 01:15 PM
LordoftheLotus :
There are also Mal-Frost/Flame/Flood/Dust ect rings you can add to hose builds. Gives you +1 more in the ring slot.
There are also Mal-Frost/Flame/Flood/Dust ect rings you can add to hose builds. Gives you +1 more in the ring slot.
ooh, good point, adding those in.
#12
Posted 21 February 2007 - 01:17 PM
Ok Frodorn, so -% would be best for CB? I've tried MND build a few times(dont ask my why, but i heard it's an option) as well as -%, and still a no go.
To those having issues with wanting to store the resist, it's not all that bad. 1 mule can hold it all, and you only need 1 set at a time...unless you like resist for JoL, in which case you'd need all 6(or all the +all pieces)
To those having issues with wanting to store the resist, it's not all that bad. 1 mule can hold it all, and you only need 1 set at a time...unless you like resist for JoL, in which case you'd need all 6(or all the +all pieces)
#13
Posted 21 February 2007 - 01:44 PM
Crisco :
Ok Frodorn, so -% would be best for CB? I've tried MND build a few times(dont ask my why, but i heard it's an option) as well as -%, and still a no go.
To those having issues with wanting to store the resist, it's not all that bad. 1 mule can hold it all, and you only need 1 set at a time...unless you like resist for JoL, in which case you'd need all 6(or all the +all pieces)
Ok Frodorn, so -% would be best for CB? I've tried MND build a few times(dont ask my why, but i heard it's an option) as well as -%, and still a no go.
To those having issues with wanting to store the resist, it's not all that bad. 1 mule can hold it all, and you only need 1 set at a time...unless you like resist for JoL, in which case you'd need all 6(or all the +all pieces)
For CB I'd go with a pretty heavy -% set with Hp in some of the key points you can pick up a lot of Hp in 1 slot...
Neck: Tempered Chain
Ear1: Cassie Earring
Ear2: Intruder Earring
Back: Gigant Mantle
With That "2000 Dmg Blend" Set Posted above, +80hp Merits, Carb for Food +175hp, and Elvaan Base Hp as Pld/Nin being 1286... It would take a 2231 Dmg Magic Attack to 1 Shot you without Buffs, but Really the key to Eating a CB is just as much if not more about what buff you have up when it Hits...
As for a "Light Set" to Try and resit CB... there just is not a lot of Light gear a Pld can wear... I just cant see you Possible getting Enough of it to ensure at least a 50% resist on CB.
As for Resist Sets for JoL... I don't see it Happening Since a Massive part of a Resist build is Carol and Barspell. Its hard to switch them on the Fly.
#14
Posted 21 February 2007 - 02:19 PM
The only set you'd really need to keep around is Fire, just because its a race to get to Tiamat on most servers. Also Jorm is a bitch to resist; might just be better off with -magic dmg%/MDB. Trying to say resist builds aren't worth it in general is really naieve though- "Ouryu hits Beckwin for 7 points of damage" is crazy. Saves tons of MP, and you don't lose much hate when you get hit for so little.
#15
Posted 22 April 2007 - 12:53 AM
sorry for a necro bump, but people were asking for setups again... figured this would be easiest.
#16
Posted 22 April 2007 - 01:59 AM
So uh..Assuming area isn't under nation's control lamia+1 or resentment? Just kind of confused seeing only lamia+1 listed and not resentment, am I missing something?
#17
Posted 22 April 2007 - 02:47 AM
resentment cape is better than lamia +1 back, but the problem is that it doesn't work in ToAU areas (then again, most areas where you need a magic resist isn't in ToAU yet)
edit: btw.. if you could clean up the orginal post (caps where needed, bolded sections, etc) maybe this could get stickied.
also, any MDB gear is not a direct %, it's actually a little less than that %, so like MDB is about 1.98% damage or so, depending on how much you have.
edit: btw.. if you could clean up the orginal post (caps where needed, bolded sections, etc) maybe this could get stickied.
also, any MDB gear is not a direct %, it's actually a little less than that %, so like MDB is about 1.98% damage or so, depending on how much you have.
#18
Posted 22 April 2007 - 08:26 AM
Dreizehn :
resentment cape is better than lamia +1 back, but the problem is that it doesn't work in ToAU areas (then again, most areas where you need a magic resist isn't in ToAU yet)
edit: btw.. if you could clean up the orginal post (caps where needed, bolded sections, etc) maybe this could get stickied.
resentment cape is better than lamia +1 back, but the problem is that it doesn't work in ToAU areas (then again, most areas where you need a magic resist isn't in ToAU yet)
edit: btw.. if you could clean up the orginal post (caps where needed, bolded sections, etc) maybe this could get stickied.
i need to do some work this morning, but i'll clean up the original post sometime today so it's easier to read
edit: got about halfway through, i'll finish it in a bit ^^.
#20
Posted 23 April 2007 - 09:38 AM
yeah, i own one and use it, tbh though in terms of the resist setup -5% magic damage taken when your allready lowering the fireballs to like 4 damage so resentment doesn't do that much... but your right i should put it in my sets.
edit: done adding things to make it easier on the eyes... any other suggestions? (i'm bored)
edit: done adding things to make it easier on the eyes... any other suggestions? (i'm bored)
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