[Yuba]

I just came from Meriphataud Mountains uncap ballista, and boy am I pissed.
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The Ballista
75MNK/WAR
75RNG/RDM(Kraken RNG)
75BLM/WHM(me)

Vrs.

75DRG/SAM
75THF/NIN
75BLU/NIN
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The match was annoying but we ended up winning. The real problem that made this game stressful for me was the BLU.
The BLU was a Tarutaru which means low HP and easily delt with, but he likes to hide & go invisible every chance he gets.
He would find me and go Frypan (Stoneskin/Blink Gone Now) > Disservment (400-600ish DMG) > Cannonball(if I ran)/Frentic Rip(if I somehow
had a chunk of HP left) and I died. Yes, I've tried running, and it only results in 3 second life longer.

This got me pissed how he would deal about 900 damage in a matter of 4 seconds. While all my high DMG
spells took a 10-15 second casting time. SE, I am seriously pissed off right about now. BLU is now like a chainspell BLM that can melee. If
BLM, SMN, WHM and even all spell casters had instant spells don't you think they would be overpowered too?

Disservment:
One of the most damaging spells you can be hit by from a BLU. Yes, it hurts and in addition you get a 40 HP tick poison! Now isn't that dandy?
SE made it so if the spell doesn't finish you off, the poison will.

Now I was wondering... Does anyone know how to stop these fucking monsters?

[Bluthund]

I have fought many BLU as RDM in ballista, all you have to do is run away when you see them coming at you. Even if they get to you and start casting one of the big 3, it'll get interrupted. The one that gave me the most trouble would always go /thf for flee, so I'd anticipate her and start running > stun > gravity > Absorb-VIT > let everyone else rape her lol and if she starts to get away... > bind^^

Even with Zephyr Mantle up, most of the time she was overconfident enough to Flee right into my whole team and try to do Temporal Shift or Disseverment, yet always getting interrupted from me moving. Other teammates would wipe shadows and I'd start my cycle. Don't even bother with silence, they are so squishy when zerged it's not a problem even if he/she gets off a spell.

[Yuba]

Problem was there was only 3 people in the ballista and he usually had the galka DRG gank me to help <_<

[Bluthund]

Did they all have poison potions on?

[Sharazisspecial]

Blu should get some sort of damage reduction or nerf in uncapped.

They are fine in 60caps but uncapped.

I remember i had full hp,full shadows and def food. And this blu used deseverment, then used cannonball and i died =/ within 2 or 3 secs he killed me . With all my defenses up. I don't see how this fair at all.

Not only that. a blu can toss out a few defensive spells and he is hard as hell to take down.

Rdm is like one of few jobs that stand any chance vs blus lol. Most melee are hopeless vs them XD.

[Galadriel]

Bluthund :
I have fought many BLU as RDM in ballista, all you have to do is run away when you see them coming at you. Even if they get to you and start casting one of the big 3, it'll get interrupted. The one that gave me the most trouble would always go /thf for flee, so I'd anticipate her and start running > stun > gravity > Absorb-VIT > let everyone else rape her lol and if she starts to get away... > bind^^

It gets really fun when the blu starts to wear things like crimson pants and arete del sols.

[Cream Soda]

I've posted these before but yea but if you set it up right, it is still very very difficult, but you can go toe to toe with a blu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YQIRjxcqVo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPg0kceGGjA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veovgdrMBOc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se_yaiBUX_8
(New) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKNfKRFhmsE

[Skyrin]

They are still subbing Nin vs a Mnk ~_~,

[Valiere]

Yuba :
Disservment:
One of the most damaging spells you can be hit by from a BLU. Yes, it hurts and in addition you get a 40 HP tick poison!

Hwwwhat?!

[Juro]

Sharazisspecial :
Blu should get some sort of damage reduction or nerf in uncapped.

They are fine in 60caps but uncapped.

I remember i had full hp,full shadows and def food. And this blu used deseverment, then used cannonball and i died =/ within 2 or 3 secs he killed me . With all my defenses up. I don't see how this fair at all.

Not only that. a blu can toss out a few defensive spells and he is hard as hell to take down.

Rdm is like one of few jobs that stand any chance vs blus lol. Most melee are hopeless vs them XD.

I've beaten my friend on Blu/Pld (which is another Defense Beast combo) as a SAM/RNG, barely survived but I did it. He still had more wins vs me though. >_>

[Bluthund]

Galadriel :

Bluthund :
I have fought many BLU as RDM in ballista, all you have to do is run away when you see them coming at you. Even if they get to you and start casting one of the big 3, it'll get interrupted. The one that gave me the most trouble would always go /thf for flee, so I'd anticipate her and start running > stun > gravity > Absorb-VIT > let everyone else rape her lol and if she starts to get away... > bind^^

It gets really fun when the blu starts to wear things like crimson pants and arete del sols.

I have maxed enfeebling magic merits I'm not too worried about resists.

[Tainted]

Juro :

Sharazisspecial :
Blu should get some sort of damage reduction or nerf in uncapped.

They are fine in 60caps but uncapped.

I remember i had full hp,full shadows and def food. And this blu used deseverment, then used cannonball and i died =/ within 2 or 3 secs he killed me . With all my defenses up. I don't see how this fair at all.

Not only that. a blu can toss out a few defensive spells and he is hard as hell to take down.

Rdm is like one of few jobs that stand any chance vs blus lol. Most melee are hopeless vs them XD.

I've beaten my friend on Blu/Pld (which is another Defense Beast combo) as a SAM/RNG, barely survived but I did it. He still had more wins vs me though. >_>

If by blu friend you probably mean Corrderio, who sucks at ballista anyway. That means if you lost a few matches, you suck even more.

Then again..You don't think using silence against jobs that cast spells is worthwhile for your gimp sidewinder. =(

But hey, you never too smart. How does a rng beat a rdm flawlessly? And who can ever forget warwolf belt > brown belt.

[Banglaboricua]

Why did you have to start something? He didn't say anything about you. GTFO the thread if you want to start some drama crap.


On topic:

I agree with the OP.

[Shykin]

Nerf multi hit spells like they did on multi hit weapon skills?

[Dredge]

I remember i had full hp,full shadows and def food. And this blu used deseverment, then used cannonball and i died =/ within 2 or 3 secs he killed me . With all my defenses up. I don't see how this fair at all.

Name: sharaz
Race/Gen: tarutaruM
Main/Sub: brd/pup
Level: 75/75

[cerium]

I hope BLU gets nerfed. Ive seen videos of 1vs1's where the other job puts up all they can with offensive and defensive mixtures that generally come out on top against other jobs, even RDMs, and BLUs win 95% of the time. The only time I have seen a BLU lose is because they hit a wrong macro or something...

BLU takes minimal skill to play in Ballista as long as you have the "big 3" spells or whatever. Just spam them and someone is dead in 5 seconds at the least... it kinda makes PvP boring.

It took me and two other players to take down a BLU/NIN once. The other Samurai and I ended up having to skillchain on the BLU to come out on top...

[Umega]

Any talk about 1v1 can be used in another thread as this looks to be about blus in an official uncap match. Matches and 1v1 have different variables and situations that arise so I'll avoid the 1v1 comments and focus on blu in official. I agree that they need a ballista nerf of some sorts, multi hit nerfs and dim down the poison tic, something.

What I do as a drg/sam in official matches is I personally wait and look for them when I have tp, having lethe water(s+1) at the rdy. This is harder in smaller matches like the 3v3 and a whole lot easier in 15 v 15+ matches. They are really soft at the core, just like a rdm...just got to break through the outer brick wall shell and lethe water does this perfectly...then go in, land angon, jumps for spell interuption and penta after a quick wyvern call+deep breathing and good night. All while hoping to avoid aoe flash :wall

As a blm...idk, I'm not well versed in the art of blm for ballista engagement. I'd say use blm/rdm. I'd suppose if I were u I'd cast diaga as they approach, stun, then bind...get a lil distance and FACE them if they are /thf...SA cannonball is not fun. Then blow him up with a burst II or thunderga or whatever, idk casting times too well and new AMs, or start off with an aspir (no telling his current mp situation, this alone can scare a blu off). You could try to land a ES bind too but it risks the blu getting close and beginning the big3 stun block crap. Might kill the person and if not, atleast scare him away or allow someone on your team to finish. Its also good to understand ppl's personalities in official matches...some blus will run away and hide if u lethe water them, same goes with rdms...some will go out guns blazing, and the elite can still manage to get a kill before they petra eater if needed before sprint. Know your enemy's personality and discernment, can go a long way and gives u an advantage.

[Star A.D.]

Yuba :
Disservment:
One of the most damaging spells you can be hit by from a BLU. Yes, it hurts and in addition you get a 40 HP tick poison! Now isn't that dandy?

:no

It's 18/tick poison, you'd figure you'd realize that after getting hit by it, and you know, basic subtraction skill.

[rambus]

Why did you have to start something? He didn't say anything about you. GTFO the thread if you want to start some drama crap.


On topic:

I agree with the OP.

why? becuase ONLY YOU must dominate?

like you should be talking.

dear op what is better getting killed in 10 seconds while being chased down by a mnk or in 3 or w/e with a blu? you still die but you hate blu because you feel the need to join this bandwagon. Did you ever face relic SAMs or relic MNK weapon users? blu does not get to have a relic and yet mnks and sams can rip things a part without it. MNK having speed boots > blu for threat on a BLM. you said your self you had problems because he was Invisible learn to use the tab key. you can keep away from frypan if you keep MOVING! I wonder if you would of posted this if the DRG/SAM was the one designated to kill you with invs spamming penta thurst and jumps. If your buffs get wiped by frypan that DRG could of owned you as well.

So its ok of THF,SAM,RNG can dominate the hit and run strategy?

only thing i will give all the blu hates is tone down the poison on Disseverment but thats about it.

[Dansieg]

i rape blu... in the ass.. with lube.. they come to do there "big 3" on me, i flip them around and bend them over, have my way with them... sometimes another person joins in.. sometimes we get a bst, and it turns into one of those beastality hentais.. kuz the bst sics some sort've tentacle monster on him/her..

bottom line, no one is safe my dick going 5 feet into there ass, including blu.