[Kaslo]

Sho why not just kill the NM for these: http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=15710&sid=6
Ideal Setup imo:
Main: Pluto's Staff
Sub: Bugard Strap +1
Ammo: Imperial Egg (+1)
Head: Mahatma Hat
Neck: Temperance Torque/Uggy
Ear1: Melody Earring +1/Novio
Ear2: Moldavite Earring
Body: Mahatma Hoppelande/Magus Jubbah
Hands: Morrigan Cuffs
Ring1: Heaven's Ring
Ring2: Heaven's Ring
Back: Jester's Cape+ 1
Waist: Corsette +1/Anrin Obi
Legs: Mahatma Slops
Feet: Volunteer's Nails

And Sho was pretty sure mDEF was based on MND not INT, hence no reason for sound blast...

[Bovineaddiction]

I think Yigit or Morrigans are the best hand options for non-Humes. I wonder how they compare. Even 2 MAB might be better than 3 CHR if it behaves anything like INT for BLMs.

[Kaslo]

Bovineaddiction :
Even 2 MAB might be better than 3 CHR if it behaves anything like INT for BLMs.

Well it doesn't if you read ;p

from all tests 1MAB ~ 1CHR

[transmit]

This is one thing that irritates me about blu, to get the most out of a single spell we need to regear ourself totally, why cant all damaging "magical" blu spells just be effected by int + Magic Atk like a blm spell.

i think right now i have TP gear, normal spell gear, WS gear, Cannonball gear, STR gear for SA <>, healing gear, tanking gear, HP+ gear for breath attack, and finally a (poor) mind blast build.

Now ive got a reason to make a eyes on me build lol! any chance of people trying this on Proto Omega? Up until now ive been using cannonball on him.

[Bovineaddiction]

Kaslo :

Bovineaddiction :
Even 2 MAB might be better than 3 CHR if it behaves anything like INT for BLMs.

Well it doesn't if you read ;p

from all tests 1MAB ~ 1CHR

Heh, ok my bad.

Then Morrigan Cuffs should be in your "ideal" list.

[Kaslo]

lol touche, just forget about morrigan's because I have no time to do salvage ; ; editing it to reflect that now

[Sho]

Well Kas, not sure, but Sound Blast effects it somehow... I'll test it some. At anyrate, it helps the BLM, lol. And I'll definately camp that NM for the boots.

Here's the EOM on Limbus Faffy that I dropped just today. Did this as BLU/RDM:



Azure Lore, Convergence, Memento Mori in play.

Now the scary part is this: Did not use AF Head, Enervation did not land, no CHR or M Attack feet, no Elemental Seal or Magic Attack 2 Trait from /BLM, and MP wasn't low enough to use Uggy Pendant. And still no BRD, lol. Probably can crack 1700-2200 on that NM no problem if everything was in play. Eyes On me has alot of potential. ALOT, lol.

Other stuff I didn't get SS'd during the run:

1k+ to Behemoths
950 to KB (without AL or Memento Mori)
700~1100 to Buffalo and Bugards
900~1200 to Wyverns

[Dragana]

lol i had too much fight spam it cut off the best part XD



/comfort

[Sho]

Dragana :
lol i had too much fight spam it cut off the best part XD



/comfort

<3 yous :3

[Dragana]

<3

[Stamos]

Hmm trying to think of my eyes on me set up since I scrapped it when I got Morrigan's body.

Plutos/Bugard strap +1
Imperial egg
Mahatma hat
Temperance torque
Heim's earring or melody + Moldy
Errant body
Yigit gagaes
Angel's ring x2
Jester's cape +1
Corsette +1
Mahatma legs
Vol nails.

Don't remember my spell set up tho

[Kandi_]

mm.. i was thinking if you're really going for +CHR build are u specifically eating food for it? cos some food can add up like 4+ CHR (sushi..?) or if you wanna be cheap i guess wear opo crown + pamama gets u a +7CHR and also +50hp/mp

im not sure about this on BLU. on BRD i know this isnt the correct way to get the most out of ur head peice, but id havta look it up, and im too lazy. if there is a single peice of gear that adds 6 CHR or M.Att for the head, then opo crown isnt better, as CHR food would make the number higher than opo crown in the end.

but liek i said, not sure whats all available, i havnt tried to work on my BLU gear, since im always being BRD or BLM for my LS.

edit: yeah the head pieces were listed above, in another post.

[Kaslo]

Tuna 5CHR + Errant/Noble Ribbon/Mahatma 3/3/4 CHR = 8/9 CHR

Crown + Panamas = 7 CHR

thus Tuna + CHR head > Crown + Panamas

EDIT: Regeared Eyes on Me



This is with spells and tuna sushi

Major piece I still need is Volunteer's Boots... but can never find Merrow 5 up ; ;

[Shazaam]

every BLU should strive to make a semi decent Eyes On Me build.

Damn Straight.
This deserves to be stickied just as much as the cannonball thread does. Perhaps even more than the subjob selection does.

from all tests 1MAB ~ 1CHR

Its exactly for reasons like this that it deserves a stickey. Kaslo shouldn't have to continue to repeat the basics he has discovered, so that everyone can go personally test themselves and come back with useful information instead of rehashing the same data again.
Re: see the number of posts on the Cannonball thread that are just descriptions of a person's cannonball build.

We all have limited inventory space, especially when it comes to multiple jobs and rare/ex gear that cannot be muled. More threads like this will enable Blue Mages to decide what is really important to rounding out the job and finding what gear is an absolute must and what is just for maxxing out a single spell. Not that maxxing out a single spell is a bad thing, just that given the limitations of FFXI perhaps it will guide the entire community towards becoming even better players. And the better the Blu community is, the more respect the job will gain.

I love this thread. I hope we will continue to see more of its kind in the future.

[Dimmauk]

I have a Sheep Song/Eyes on Me build, but only cause I'm also a BRD and BLM:D

I would love to see Eyes on me and Mind Blast spam on Faffy. RDM would probably be a decent Sub for it too. Too bad I'm always BLM for faffy.

[Clink]

wow I'm gonna have to try that....... Also another thought comes into mind anyone try BLU/BRD 1. Extra CHR base. also have the CHR song also sure only one song up being /BRD but would anyone want to test if they have it? I would test but I don't have like half of the Necessary gear to do it with. Espically the +MAB pieces.

[Shazaam]

Interesting theory clink, but it seems doubtful that the slight boost to chr from /brd and a single song could possibly be greater than the boost from the MAB #2 bonus given by /blm and especially the extra magic acc from elemental seal on certain resistant HNMS.
Re-iterating something previously mentioned on this thread, a big part of the strength on Eyes on Me would come from the use of Dark Skillchains on thunder resistant mobs for Ice MBs... but lets face it, its not like BLM has anything within the realm of dark element magic that they would use for a damage spell anyway, in fact, this is the first dark elemental 'nuke' in the game, as far as I know. (if I am wrong on this point please correct me)

Also re-iterating something previously mentioned in this thread, I too would like to see the benefit of a Mind Blast build, but I think it is more important to focus on this spell for right now. Even if it is just because of how prevelant it ended up being in the final mission of toau.

Edit: yes, it is only one song available as /brd, due to the inability to equip an instrument.

[Dimmauk]

Shazaam :
Interesting theory clink, but it seems doubtful that the slight boost to chr from /brd and a single song could possibly be greater than the boost from the MAB #2 bonus given by /blm and especially the extra magic acc from elemental seal on certain resistant HNMS.
Re-iterating something previously mentioned on this thread, a big part of the strength on Eyes on Me would come from the use of Dark Skillchains on thunder resistant mobs for Ice MBs... but lets face it, its not like BLM has anything within the realm of dark element magic that they would use for a damage spell anyway, in fact, this is the first dark elemental 'nuke' in the game, as far as I know. (if I am wrong on this point please correct me)

Also re-iterating something previously mentioned in this thread, I too would like to see the benefit of a Mind Blast build, but I think it is more important to focus on this spell for right now. Even if it is just because of how prevelant it ended up being in the final mission of toau.

Edit: yes, it is only one song available as /brd, due to the inability to equip an instrument.

These are quotes fro mthe Blue Mage End Game Guide thread

Zeosilot :
Can you give us an idea of your gear and spell set up? I think I might try that for Fafnir tonight... lol.

-Mind Blast is Mnd spell so... (for equipment that matters) I think I'll go with:

Jupiter's Staff
Mahatma Hat (or Yigit) +4 Mnd
Magus Body (or Errant Body) +15 Skill or +10 Mnd
Yigit Gages +5 Mnd, +2 Magic Atk Bonus
Mahatma Slops +8 Mnd
Mahatma Pigaches (or Yigit Crackows? I think they're the same strength for this spell) +6 Mnd or +3 Mnd, +2 Magic Atk Bonus
Promise Badge +5 Mnd
Communion Earring +2 Mnd
Moldavite Earring +5 Magic Atk Bonus
Aqua Ring +5 Mnd
Tamas Ring +5 Mnd
Penitent's Rope (or Rarin Obi if it's Thunder's Day/Weather) +5 Mnd
Prism Cape +4 Mnd

-Other slots that don't matter will be:

Phantom Tathlum

-On top of that there's my:

Goblin Mushpot (+10 Mnd)

So... that's a (max) total of +69 Mnd, with +7 Magic Atk Bonus just from Gear alone. I'm Taru so my Mind as Blu/Blm is only around 60 or so :con

I'll confirm what set up I'll use later and then if we get claim I'll confirm how well it does! lol (Is there anything else worth using on Fafnir as Blu? I've seen Light of Penance, Feather Tickle, and now Mind Blast)


Added:

Did you use Memento Mori during the fight? Or... Amplification? (Which is stronger between those two spells anyways?). Heh, I love Blu but there's so many damn variables it's almost irritating.... almost, lol.


Added More

Ok, so I'm standing at Faf as I type this and I have: 56(eww) +75 Mind in addition to +7 Magic Atk Bonus. I could fiddle with that a bit but this is going for Max Damage. (Only +6 out of +75 Mnd is from my spells).

Total Spells:

Power Atk (+Mnd)
Hydro Shot (+Mnd)
Venom Shell (+Mnd)

Mind Blast (Magic Burst Spell)
Memento Mori (stronger Mind Blast)

Light of Penance (less hurricane wings)
Feather Tickle (less hurricane wings)

Saline Coat (with Shell 4 and this Hurricane Wing's on me should be weak)
Diamond Hide (only stoneskin I have)
Magic Fruit (to cure myself if I need it)

Actinic Burst (auto refresh)
Plasma Charge (auto refresh)
Refueling (for recast times)

Any suggestions are welcome, I'll update with damage once I get a chance to use it

lheoric :
Thanks to the people on BG decided to go do some testing as blu/blm and despite my lack of MAB+ gear I was very happy with the results. 1214 burst was with 2 hour on.

[Kaslo]

Clink :
wow I'm gonna have to try that....... Also another thought comes into mind anyone try BLU/BRD 1. Extra CHR base. also have the CHR song also sure only one song up being /BRD but would anyone want to test if they have it? I would test but I don't have like half of the Necessary gear to do it with. Espically the +MAB pieces.

MAB2 is about equal to 4CHR iirc for this build. I think that's ~about~ the difference in CHR.

I know /SMN is only a 3CHR difference (which I would say go /smn for faffy if only to help with AA rotation if you get put in tank PT)

/SMN is also only 1 INT less that /BLM and 4 more MND. If you are going to do ~both~ Eyes on Me and Mind Blast and/or Firespit I would say go /smn. (Plus you don't have to waist 5 set points on plasma charge ;p)

I was debating changing this thread in general to "Building a Better Nuke" but idk atm

EDIT: Clink I love the Einherjar sig!

[Shazaam]

Too early to say.. But could a scholar sub be the way to maximize our magical nuke capacity?
Wonder if there is a Blue Grimoire lying around in that mix. Doubtful, but the weather bonus ability is nice. One of the first things I plan on testing out is the Black grimoire combined with Eyes on Me and Mind Blast.

As far as the Mind Blast build goes, does anyone know the equivalence of mind and MAB? Seeing as CHR~MAB for Eyes on Me, does Mind Blast follow similar rules?