[k1nesis]

Just wondering. M.Acc. is negligable and can be supplemented with nashira turban or balrahn's ring imo if you TRULY need it for resistant mobs...
I think with a Zenith mitts +1 and Genie weskit setup all ya really need is a morrigan's coronal and maybe the slops for stoneskin (+10 INT doesnt beat the +5 or +4 MAB from shadow or valkyrie trews, or the +5 mab from sorc tonban)

[grahamoo]

Zenith Mitts +1, really just because of the huge Epeen bonus(+2').

[Bobalo]

Tbh, Id take the cuffs, +Macc and 50hp back on my taru for the trade off of 25mp seems very worth it to me. Also I believe that at the present time noone is aware of the MAB bonus amount given by wearing the set, which could (And likely will) overshadow that of a genie weskit + mitts+1. Atm tho, even without the set bonus, id take M.Robe over a Genie any day. (Also iirc in most situations 10int is about equal to 5MAB, making the slops pretty nice, as well as them giving back the lost mp in the glove slot and -2 enm, 1 difference from that of the trews. Also Sorc Tonoban give an extra 5% damage on the day of the nuke, not 5MAB.)

[Metticus]

k1nesis :
Just wondering. M.Acc. is negligable and can be supplemented with nashira turban or balrahn's ring imo if you TRULY need it for resistant mobs...
I think with a Zenith mitts +1 and Genie weskit setup all ya really need is a morrigan's coronal and maybe the slops for stoneskin (+10 INT doesnt beat the +5 or +4 MAB from shadow or valkyrie trews, or the +5 mab from sorc tonban)

THe morrigan slops is +10 INT which translates to 5MAB and then some. Secondly there is no +5MAB from the sorcerer's tonbad. Those things give you a +5% bonus to the spell of the elemental day which is more than 5MAB, unless you are a really crappy blm who's thunder IV is less than 1000.

Now back on topic. If you are planning to get the NQ Zmitts, then the Morrigan cuffs would be better yes. But only a retard would not want a Zmitts +1.

[drwaffles]

Zenith Mitts +1.

Just wondering. M.Acc. is negligable and can be supplemented with nashira turban or balrahn's ring imo if you TRULY need it for resistant mobs...

If you're fighting resistant mobs... use Wizard's Gloves (+1). <_<

+Macc and 50hp back on my taru for the trade off of 25mp seems very worth it to me.

If you have a Sorcerer's Ring then this hurts more than helps since you'll be at the same HP as you would be wearing Zenith Mitts (+1), and wearing Morrigan's will actually put you into yellow when nuking (something that wearing Zenith for nuking counters). Also for those of us with inventory space issues the concept of carrying around two sets of essentially identical gloves for normal nuking (Zenith to activate Ring, Morrigan's to nuke in) isn't particularly appealing.

Also I believe that at the present time noone is aware of the MAB bonus amount given by wearing the set, which could (And likely will) overshadow that of a genie weskit + mitts+1.

Think before you post. The set bonus will need to outdo a combination of old gear and Morrigan's gear (i.e. Morrigan's Robe and Slops), not the traditional Wizard's Petasos +1, Genie Weskit, Zenith Mitts +1, Mahatma Slops, Yigit Crackows (debatably) optimal nuking set. Though I agree, it will probably still outdo it.

[k1nesis]

well just wondering. i cant wait to uncurse these bad boyz =)

some ppl were saying they prefer morrrigans better

and according to ffxiclopedia its a +5% boost but i always thought 1 M.A.B. was +1%

so ... you are saying Valkyrie Trews isnt a perma sorc tonban then, right?

[Bobalo]

drwaffles :

If you have a Sorcerer's Ring then this hurts more than helps since you'll be at the same HP as you would be wearing Zenith Mitts (+1), and wearing Morrigan's will actually put you into yellow when nuking (something that wearing Zenith for nuking counters). Also for those of us with inventory space issues the concept of carrying around two sets of essentially identical gloves for normal nuking (Zenith to activate Ring, Morrigan's to nuke in) isn't particularly appealing.

Also I believe that at the present time noone is aware of the MAB bonus amount given by wearing the set, which could (And likely will) overshadow that of a genie weskit + mitts+1.

Think before you post. The set bonus will need to outdo a combination of old gear and Morrigan's gear (i.e. Morrigan's Robe and Slops), not the traditional Wizard's Petasos +1, Genie Weskit, Zenith Mitts +1, Mahatma Slops, Yigit Crackows (debatably) optimal nuking set. Though I agree, it will probably still outdo it.

Atm I lack a Sorc ring, trying to fix up some of my general nuking gear first. However I was under the impression that that for the Sorc ring latent to activate, you had to be under 75% of the hp you have at the time, therefore Z.Mitts which youd be nuking in wouldnt count towards the total. If you could clarify itd be apprieciated (and save me some much needed inventory space when i do decide to buy one).

I did think before I posted, hence the more than one line answer, i figured people would understand what i meant by listing those 2 items, which was that the set bonus on Morrigons may beat what is considered the traditional ultimate nuking set. But my bad I guess, I apologise if what i meant wasnt clear ;x.

Of course all Blm would like a pair of Mitts+1, just Morrigons is now likely far more within their reach, and at the current time for me anyway, a nice trade off.

[splynk]

it's all about the warlock mantle.

[Kireforever]

its 75% bse HP so u can nuke in 5/5 zen gear be at like 400/400 hp and the 10mab will kick in as you be like 400/980 HP bse hp

[evilpaul]

I'd sell the Cursed Mitts -1 and buy everything else you could possibly want besides other ultra-rare Tier 0 HQs. You could buy all the raw materials needed for several salvage armor sets most likely. Mitts +1 are damn sexy though.

[rambus]

to op

gtfo, i do not want to see a post by you again after the retarded comments (should be homered i never said that to anyone yet)you made on fast cast back POS

it's all about the warlock mantle.

:yes

Atm I lack a Sorc ring, trying to fix up some of my general nuking gear first. However I was under the impression that that for the Sorc ring latent to activate, you had to be under 75% of the hp you have at the time, therefore Z.Mitts which youd be nuking in wouldnt count towards the total. If you could clarify itd be apprieciated (and save me some much needed inventory space when i do decide to buy one).

well we answered this before but here ti goes, for sorcs ring to work you need to be at or under 75% of your NATERAL hp. if you have hp>mp stuff this does not count sort of speak, you can be at 100% hp from hp>mp gear and its active.

on that note -hp +mp like errent feet does effect your natural hp so they need ot be off for the trigger. put on to get hp down then take it off.

[k1nesis]

well we answered this before but here ti goes, for sorcs ring to work you need to be at or under 75% of your NATERAL hp. if you have hp>mp stuff this does not count sort of speak, you can be at 100% hp from hp>mp gear and its active.

gtfo and learn how to spell natural.

[rambus]

oh thats big comming from a guy that lost his precus sighed cloak for some POS fast cast back

you fail at blm and this is the second thread that proves it, even whimsic said think before you post.
damn it where is nerull

the best lol quote here:

and according to ffxiclopedia its a +5% boost but i always thought 1 M.A.B. was +1%

[k1nesis]

My aspirs drains are faster than yours buddy, and more potent too!

And I can make that cloak again because my clothcraft is higher than yours. Heh.

No big. Clash of egopenises!!!

[Nerull]

rambus :
damn it where is nerull

You rang?


Good old kinesis, never fails to deliver some lulz. I thought you proved in the last inane "what is better" monstrosity of a thread you started that you a) know nothing about this game, don't appreciate the advice of others, and c) are an all around grade-A douchebag.

Do as the almighty Bob Barker says and

[rambus]

My aspirs drains are faster than yours buddy, and more potent too!

And I can make that cloak again because my clothcraft is higher than yours. Heh.

No big. Clash of egopenises!!!

what you cloth e -peen? i was HQing nolbes before you where truning capes for GP, i hqed a damy before you HQed your demon.

i gave a try here and there for mitts but NQ was a loss where damly was not, so when i made that i traded the body +20mil for the mitts

how much money did you loose trying to make them? now dont you feel retarded?

try again buddy, I do a lot of things in the game i don't talk about, want to try again to "own" me?

tbh thansk nerull

[k1nesis]

haha 20 mil.. i lost 7.5-8.0 million and it was all supplemented by qiqirn sash, mohbwa sash and scarf +1's
-- AND IM ONLY 96.0+3 CLOTH!! HAHA
all it took was a bit of time, dedication, and patience

And for all you haters out there:




And my Stuns are faster too!

[rambus]

I GAINED 20 mil MORON.

i traded MY dalmy for 20 mil and mitts

he got a dalmy +1

i got 20 mil and cursed mitts -1.

damnit, do you understand now?

so we are at about 28 mil difference in our quest of getting them

i win

and you won a new comment in my sig thanks that oversized sig was old

[Metticus]

Fast Cast on BLM is kinda meh

[rambus]

booo my sig got ruined ><

yay got it back, here is a sample:

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=2161873