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Which would you rather have: Zenith Mitts +1 or Morrigan's Cuffs

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I worry more why on his Dark magic set he's not using AF pants.. way to go with gimp setups (and to gimp I mean items that are inappropiated for them).

because i have sorcerer's gloves and i've noticed if you go overboard with dark magic skill like that, your aspirs and drains are actually worse. not to mention my inventory is like 52/60 with all my gear

and how come you are not closer to 100? to busy blowing money on cursed mitts -1? you may have to sell them

they are sold already http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=1368&sid=30
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I worry more why on his Dark magic set he's not using AF pants.. way to go with gimp setups (and to gimp I mean items that are inappropiated for them).

because i have sorcerer's gloves and i've noticed if you go overboard with dark magic skill like that, your aspirs and drains are actually worse. not to mention my inventory is like 52/60 with all my gear



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because i have sorcerer's gloves and i've noticed if you go overboard with dark magic skill like that, your aspirs and drains are actually worse. not to mention my inventory is like 52/60 with all my gear


sure................................

edit :danm it nerull

and how come you are not closer to 100? to busy blowing money on cursed mitts -1? you may have to sell them


i do not see how you sold cursed mitts -1...........

why are you flaming for trading for cursed mitts -1 in the first place again? i forgot.

lol, rambus making fun of people because they read what he wrote.

P.S. +1 dalmy, wtf? Does it give more than 1/tick?!?
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i do not get where you are going with this, any coments i made about it giving more then +1 mp /tic was to make fun of this ... op....
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thought you were referring to all my NQ's i made. mistake it's hard to understand you sometimes, rambus you are inarticulate
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thought you were referring to all my NQ's i made. mistake it's hard to understand you sometimes, rambus you are inarticulate


and how come you are not closer to 100? to busy blowing money on cursed mitts -1? you may have to sell them


>_>?

I swair people are getting dumber reading your posts.

first you act all high and mighty lookie me i hqed mitts at 96 when you had to trade for them lol @ you now you are trying to be nice....
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Finally got home and now it's time to post. Here we go...

We're talking the ability to generate income with your level of craft


Actually no, sorry, this

But you didnt make cursed mitts -1 at level 96 cloth, you had to do it the easy way as a more wealthy 100+3 crafter..


Implies that you were talking about CRAFTING the item, not making money to buy it straight out. Lern2bcoherent before you call other people retards.

Any amount of fast cast added to your Stun is invaluable, you must not be a very good stunner to not realize this?


I'm good enough to know that if you need to rely on 2% Fast Cast to Stun the TP move/spells in this game that are Stun-able then you suck at Stunning in the first place. Buying a Warlock's Mantle for Stun and carrying it around is a complete waste of 1. money and 2. inventory space. The recast time decrease is just as pathetic. Warlock's Mantle doesn't make you a better Stunner.

Just because I have a life and don't devote my time studying the mathematical formulas behind Magic Atk. Bonus and % increases?


You don't have to study anything to have a basic comprehension of the BLM damage formula. Not knowing that MAB isn't a direct % increase and Sorcerer's Tonban is is just ignorance, which is why I said I don't think you deserve a desirable item like Zenith Mitts +1. But that's just me. I don't believe morons should be entitled to anything.

I'd totally take a warlock's mantle over +5 dark magic on my drains, and aspirs.


Yeah, if you use it in conjunction with Loquacious Earring you can take a WHOLE SECOND off your recast time! How awesome is that? Not. +5 Dark Magic Skill will do more for you than a negligible about of Fast Cast. Of course ideally you'd use both pieces of equipment, but when it comes to what back piece your spell should actually go off in Merciful Cape wins out in my opinion.

Hmm... Something about sucking that last 1% HP from a mob as fast as possible seems kind of useful to me.


If having your Drain go off 2% faster is the difference between life and death then you have bigger problems to worry about.

I also macro it with my enfeeble set for now - why? Because Sleep going off faster, no matter HOW negligable can save your life, every millisecond counts especially when soloing.


And guess what? Sleep actually landing can save your life too! The 2% Fast Cast will be a deciding factor in one in a million scenarios.

k1nesis :


Let me list the reasons these two sets are fail:

1. No Igqira/Geni Tiara.
2. Warlock's Mantle for Enfeebling Magic. Lol.
3. I sure hope that Obi isn't full-time.
4. You preach about the absolute importance of Fast Cast for Dark Magic and you're not wearing a fucking Loquacious Earring...
5. Weskit for Dark Magic is retarded.
6. Warlock's Mantle again!!
7. You're not wearing AF(+1) legs for Dark Magic you imbecile.
8. See no.4, but change Loquacious Earring to Rostrum Pumps...

I also like haste with my Sleep magic, because its useful, trust me.


You're an idiot. Recast on Sleep is hardly ever important, and sacrificing magic accuracy in any of its forms for Haste is unbelievably stupid.

i wear sorc feet most the time while nuking unless im magic bursting and/or i want epeen magic attack bonus(in this case i wear yigits), i prefer conserve MP


Just when you think this guy can't fail any more.
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Let me list the reasons these two sets are fail:

1. No Igqira/Geni Tiara.
2. Warlock's Mantle for Enfeebling Magic. Lol.
3. I sure hope that Obi isn't full-time.
4. You preach about the absolute importance of Fast Cast for Dark Magic and you're not wearing a fucking Loquacious Earring...
5. Weskit for Dark Magic is retarded.
6. Warlock's Mantle again!!
7. You're not wearing AF(+1) legs for Dark Magic you imbecile.
8. See no.4, but change Loquacious Earring to Rostrum Pumps...


you forgot to comment on the moldy, he could have dark earing and enbeeling earing..

oh wait you kind of did , if i had his views being leet would consist of loq/ enfeebling for (duh?) set and loq / dark earing for....

hope you get the point
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lol I just noticed he quoted me as "Taruosofa".. get a life, fool~
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damn it i knew i forgot something
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you forgot to comment on the moldy, he could have dark earing and enbeeling earing..


52/60 inventory... no thanks on the bloat

You're an idiot. Recast on Sleep is hardly ever important, and sacrificing magic accuracy in any of its forms for Haste is unbelievably stupid.


You're stupid, nashira gear is both magic accuracy and haste, what am I sacrificing? You seem to misunderstand and be unable to read, I also stated i forgot to put igqira tiara on in the enfeeble screenshot, i *do* wear it. Also I stated that too much dark skill gear is overkill, so I dont bother with the tonban. And I tested Errant Hpl vs Weskit - and magic attack bonus seems better for aspirs from my research. I may be wrong though. The Anrin Obi is not full time, only on darksdays - duh!

You're an idiot. Recast on Sleep is hardly ever important, and sacrificing magic accuracy in any of its forms for Haste is unbelievably stupid.

i find it to be pretty important, and fast cast to sleep is also important when you got a mob whacking you that can interrupt you at any given time
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You're stupid, nashira gear is both magic accuracy and haste, what am I sacrificing? You seem to misunderstand and be unable to read, I also stated i forgot to put igqira tiara on in the enfeeble screenshot, i *do* wear it. Also I stated that too much dark skill gear is overkill, so I dont bother with the tonban. And I tested Errant Hpl vs Weskit - and magic attack bonus seems better for aspirs from my research. I may be wrong though. The Anrin Obi is not full time, only on darksdays - duh!


go ask the rdms about magic acc, they had the stat first and delt with it the longest. unless something changed that i dont know about magic acc is a stupid stat to deal with just like your fast cast for blm.

why do you have 52/60 wtf are you not using that you should be using?

your obi comment, comming from you we do not know what to expect.

if you lack a hmp set ( a good one) dont ever come back

k?

i find it to be pretty important, and fast cast to sleep is also important when you got a mob whacking you that can interrupt you at any given time


becuase you cant time casts? you got no idea what i killed with stone IV with mobs in my face whacking at me (terra staff for -20% damage)

just in case you want to try to flame the use of a stone spell
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Kinesis:
52/60 inventory... no thanks on the bloat


...But you carry warlock's mantle.

...

/sigh
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#53
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he will stun you to death if you question his mantle!!!!
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Kinesis, you know that Haste ONLY helps on recasts right? so all that petty +%Haste gear you wear while casting Sleep does nothing if you need an actual Quick sleep. Get a fucking Loquacious if you want quick enfeebling or GTFO. On your setup you're trying to prove the point that Warlock's mantle is worth whilst Loquacious would be in use instead of that useless Moldavite and still you could wear 4INT or 5 Enfeebling magic skill on your back.

What you need all that space for? LightLuggage solved any possible problem I had with inventory.

P.S. Trying to prove a point by being stubborn is not the way to go.
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yes faster recast and fast cast is what im after on my sleep.
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you have 4 sleeps! i never found my slef saying god all my timers are up and i need to sleep again even in dyna

gtfo

im still waiting on WHY you only got 52 spots used up.
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But that's just me. I don't believe morons should be entitled to anything.

LoL @ this. You can believe and have opinions on all you want - but the fact remains - I have Zenith mitts +1 and you do not.

you have 4 sleeps! i never found my slef saying god all my timers are up and i need to sleep again even in dyna


When you're sleeping in dynamis anrin obi and pluto's staff do great, dont have to worry about the back.

When I'm soloing out in the field - good to have fast cast in case sh1t hits the fan
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again, do you try to be stupid? you acting all high and mighty but still dont explain why you only have 52 spots filled up, it shold be more.

But that's just me. I don't believe morons should be entitled to anything.


i missed this but QTW this guy dont diserve this narsha or his new mitts

dont know how to use them
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cuz i keep it simple i dont bloat myself with overkill dark magic skill gear, sorc gloves, igqira huaraches, and a good amount of int + magic accuracy from my two nashira pieces + anrin obi and pluto's does absolutely fine. i use to carry dark torque, dark earring, and wizard's tonban and when i used these items with my dark magic swap i noticed i actually got resisted more and aspir'd for less believe it or not
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cuz i keep it simple i dont bloat myself with overkill dark magic skill gear, sorc gloves, igqira huaraches, and a good amount of int + magic accuracy from my two nashira pieces + anrin obi and pluto's does absolutely fine. i use to carry dark torque, dark earring, and wizard's tonban and when i used these items with my dark magic swap i noticed i actually got resisted more and aspir'd for less believe it or not


ok I forgot you suck at mbing

3 pices of dark skill is really overkill all i got is torque, relic and af
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