[Sword]

From my past knowledge the standard unwritten rules of engagement have always been something like this.

-If you do not have the manpower to kill a mob dont claim it.

-If one shell has claim, other shells courtesy waits for them to full wipe before claiming.

-If one shell does not adhere to the previous rule and KS's another shell, they forfeit that courtesy and can be KS'd in return by the victom shell or other shells in accordance with the violators rules of engagement.

-Teamups although discouraged are allowed.

-If you do have the manpower to take down a mob do not hold it.

-If any individual of a shell decides to violate his/her's rules they should be held accountable according to they're shells rules, and other shells should look at the violater as an individual and not his/her shell as a whole. Unless the shell in question accepts repeat offenders and allows such actions to continue repeatedly. This usually includes fighting with other shells, botting, griefing, ect.

Judging by the story given while Couga was acting on his own, this Remake shell had already forfeited it's rights by KS'ing Remedy previously therefore the whole arguement about it is kind of meh.

[selits]

Shuemue :

selits :

aurikan :SML did no such thing. Don't ascribe the actions of a few to the intent of the linkshell. Once you kick the botters out of your linkshell you can have an opinion on who I shouldn't help due to a sketchy history with bots.

Give me a list of the people you know for a fact bot in Remedy.

You stopped personally then?

You know for a fact I botted claims? Every king I've ever claimed was 100% legit and actually... I don't claim much, despite what people think when they press their nice little hate macro after they lag on pop and I have hate... sorry I'm a tank and I do my job to get hate asap. Nice try though.

[Shuemue]

So you went from botting the fuck out of stuff in Machina to 100% clean in Remedy?

I lol'd.

[selits]

Shuemue :
So you went from botting the fuck out of stuff in Machina to 100% clean in Remedy?

I lol'd.

I botted in Machina? Thats news to me. I never even claimed in Machina and quite honestly due to my play time back then... I really wasn't at many camps. Again, nice try.

[Shuemue]

Dude, even Palo just said you botted in Machina. Every cunt knows you botted.

[CougaAsura]

what about the non-cunts

[Shuemue]

CougaAsura :
what about the non-cunts

they're too polite to admit it

[selits]

Shuemue :
Dude, even Palo just said you botted in Machina. Every cunt knows you botted.

And every cunt is a fuckin retard. If people want to think I bot... feel free, I really don't care... their opinions about me mean so much, I shall go kill myself now because of what people say. AFK.

[Kenshiro]

Arjuna bots.

[Shuemue]

Forgive me if I don't attend the funeral.

[CougaAsura]

unforgiven

[Thaliaru]

I'm a non-cunt and think everyone is a saint!

I'd say something intelligent, but everyone knows girls can't think.

Oh, and the mainframe of linkshell culture is structured on building blocks of hatred and jealousy, thereby, any one person who helps any one other person is thereby guilty of one of two violations: a) botting or selfish ulterior motives. In this case, neither were a factor. Madherk, Eliise, and possibly other members of SML (I'm not sure) are also members of Remake because they enjoy camping kings, an activity which, deemed by Lordwafik and Aurik, will not be an SML sanctioned activity. However, because Aurik, and other members of SML wanted to a) assist their friends and enjoy the thrill of fighting one of the big guys, they indirectly helped historically-known botters. I can understand; I'd really like to nuke the shit out of Fafnir with my virgin BLM. Everyone gets blind-sided by their wants and needs and doesn't necessarily think through the possible consequences of his or her actions. I know, on several occasions, SML members hanging out in the pit and looking for a good show have offered to hand a successfully claimed NM to the group with which I am camping. It is simple generousity and friendliness, a word few asurans understand.

Sure, Remake should hold their horses and take a seat until they can successfully and consistently kill on their own, but I don't think members of SML should be hung out to dry because they're simply helping their friends.

Instead of reading honest intention, the monkeys start flinging poo and name-calling. This is, by far, one of the most mature responses >.>

I will never understand why Asurans refuse to see the good in others intentions. I have always done my best to see the good, even though I can't deny I've been blinded by frustration at times. (My "paid for hard work" mentality has been bruised a bit, but I'm starting to get broken in )

This post was, by no means, meant to defend or offend any individual or linkshell, but to merely offer another point of view. Few asurans think outside the box.

And as far as Cereberus is concerned, most fail (or refuse) to see the simple psychology and logic. Aurik hates Couga. Aurik has friends in Remake. Aurik gets angry. It's basic human nature. I'm not going to sit here and defend anyone's actions or feelings. It's 2 mil; get over it.

[Dart]

Uh.. I'll go over this shite when I'm bored enough too... Till that time! Skimming through here.. Van, I know it's a horse. Ass just sounded better. Eliise is sexy, I'm ever so curious what it'd be like drinking with Aurik, Shoes made me lol, Selits is a whore who needs to give me his number ;D! and lastly.. Thali, that may be the biggest post I've ever seen from you cutie, can't wait to see what it says.

[Riceboi]

/KS Thal from Ashke

I miss the days where the linkshells that camp kings/tiamat actually honored the /random system.

[CougaAsura]

I ONLY HONOR THE /KABOOM SYSTEM

[Eliise]

i made aurik take shots with me in montana. then i got on my ps2 and he got on his computer, and we sat across from each other, and i efucked the shit out of him. wafik wouldnt get drunk with us... jibbles was passed out... and oh my god wottles... i still have the real life note

[Riceboi]

I'm not a big fan of KSing or KSers because it only creates senseless conflict between linkshells.

Take last week for example, one of Manifestos' member decided to pull an assholish move by KSing our IX'drg even though we still had 1 rdm alive that was holding it while my party that was attempting to pop IX'drg from another room was running towards the party that popped it. Sure, it was just IX'drg and the person that comitted the KS apologized but what good is apologizing when they decide to keep the deed? It's basically saying, "Oh sorry we KSed your mob, it won't happen again, btw we're keeping the pop item that we got from the mob we stole from you."

Anyways, I didn't bother arguing with that individual since he'll keep the pop item regardless of what I say but that unfortunate incident informed me of the kind of ethics that linkshell posses when they allow their members to get away with such action. Which reminds me, Manifestos is a merge from Veritas aka Grandtheft--Asura's original KSing LS--I guess it shouldn't be a suprise they would do that.

Edit: My point is, when one LS KS' another, the other LS is bound to reliate when the next opportunity becomes available thus creating a never ending conflict.

[Krandor]

I herd Riceboi bots @ Jormungand Campz.

In all seriousness, I'm in agreement with Remedy (Inorite?) about this supposed "issue" with Couga. Turnabout is fair play imo. Remake (can someone tell me who these tards are, I'm out of the loop) KSed from Remedy, and they got their shit handed to them on a silver platter. Just a shame that Couga didn't pick up an Algol.

Oh and I since won't bother going out of my to post this, I'm turning my account back on the 21st once I get paid.

[Beardman]

Riceboi :
/KS Thal from Ashke

I miss the days where the linkshells that camp kings/tiamat actually honored the /random system.

I have been bored at work, so started checking KI and figure good place to start, I'm not sure if this is correct
"troll" lol I'm not sure, either way "imo" Mnk's rock and I love what Riceboi said about the random, respect.

If I double posted or see something I typed twice, I'm sorry very much a noob at this forum stuff.

[Confuse]

Remake is pretty much the old Armada + random JPs & NAs