[Tykkaru]

I've never (ever!) been able to land elegy on Aspid. )b
In my case, I'd bring sleep/lullaby gear for the adds you might be getting at start as well as +mp gear for support.

The only extra gear for Salvage would probably be Joyeuse for early on meleeing in case you got an overflow of weapons, other than that, I think having food/gear that gives you 150 mp without Spissatus might be a good idea, just in case...

In Dynamis where crowd controll is important I'd prioritise Refresh effects, -song casting time%, haste/-song recast time and MP in that order. CHR and +skill won't be that important when lullaby, elegy and threnody aren't that hard to land...

[Sozsensur]

Wow I haven't been to KI in years.

I appreciate the sticky, I'll definitely work on keeping it updated.

Edit: Ewww, I'd have to redo all the sompage links(I um....had somepage links, right?)

Is that something that people want to see, and if so, should I link to that or another site?

[octoberasian]

I've taken up on updating it for you if that's ok.

Welcome back to KI.

The format's changed a bit and I've added Aspid. You may want to fix it or change the layout if you'd like. It is your post anyway.

If there are suggestions you'd like, add more gear-specific sets for different NMs/HNMs and events.

As Tykkaru said, and even with my personal experience, landing songs on Aspid or hell, any turtle is a pain in the ass.

Threnodies get resisted mostly and when they remove songs, it gets absolutely irritating. I was about to change it to MP-gear set and maybe a Threnody set if you can land it. Don't worry about Elegy or other debuffs. Primarily you will be either doing Ballad if in BLM-party or melee songs if in DD-party. That's probably one suggestion you can add.

As for links, use links from FFXI Wikia: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page. There are some URLs that won't work with BBCode, so you would have to use something called URL ASCII codes in the hyperlinks, however. I have the page bookmarked somewhere if you'd like to know the codes.

Other than that, if need help keeping your sticky updated, feel free to PM me. I really appreciate what you're doing.

[Sozsensur]

Cool, cool. Yeah really the point is to get a couple people talking, and try to represent the community's view point. The gear is specific examples for those who A) hate to think or B) would rather not think, particularly in legit situations where multiple pieces on a gear slot are feasible. The funny thing about Bard, whether people get the gear we suggest or not, is that it's more about empirical feel than direct stat to performance logic. If on no other job, who would know to use Horn over Harp if you wanted sleep? Only those who experienced it.

I stopped updating previously because it seemed to not resonate. Anti proved me wrong, so have responses sent during my time off. But it is definitely refreshing that I can do something on KI other than flame the hell out of idiots. Which I'm still doing(see sig).

Edit: WHAT THE FUCK, I JUST REALIZED WHAT I USED TO HAVE IN MY SIG. I need "you fucking hypocrypse" back...halp!

[Antithesis]

Aurik quit so 1 less person your gonna be flamming lol.

But yeah like October and Tyk said. Its difficult to land songs on Aspid but im pretty sure ive been able to land all my songs consistantly on Adaman on my NowitchBRD Macro book (All macros have no gear switch so I stay in one certain set of gear for the whole fight. Makes it easier if you dont need the skill and stuf.)

Oh Soz come to think of it does Limbus and or Salvage, etc count towards your endgame guide? Well I mean the bosses at least.

If yes I want to give one small little commentary on Proto - Ultima. BRD/SCH rapes that fight. Usually your enough out of range of his attacks where stoneskin and blink arent a total neccesity. Sublimation + the Stratgems help alot of MP conservation when healing the melees when got spare time. The most I got out of it though was during Citidel Buster mode. Since people are dieing left and right Celerity + Raise + Sublimation + Light Arts is such huge MP storage plus your getting out Raise so fast its just amazing.

As for gear. Elegy seems to land pretty consistantly but does get resisted so your going to want the skill and chr. Threnody also land pretty consistantly granted that Magic Shield isnt up. Requiem I swear I have never seen land on him.


Also I wanted to add something for Jailer of Love. I made the mistake of going BRD/SCH right after Limbus which was a big no no but wasent that bad of a hinderence. If your the main bard of the JoL party (tank and healers) your goning to want to stick to BRD/WHM sub and keep on your MP gear. BRD/WHM provides Magic Defense Bonus + Stoneskin + Blink + Curaga which are quite useful for this fight and easly take priority over the /SCH sub so this is a clear instance where WHM > SCH. Since you wont ( or barely ) be casting alot of enfeebling songs on JoL a modest MP set up would be nice for constantly keeping up your buffs. Crumhorn +1 and your Carols are extremly important for this fight so make sure you have them all.

If your in the outside party of JoL then /WHM or /SCH both are viable subs. A modest skill + chr gear swap is good for sleeping / debuffing the Summons of JoL.

[Sozsensur]

I didn't ignore you Anti, I'll update with that info by the end of the week.

[Sozsensur]

Alright it is updated, includes Salvage and Dynamis(thanks Tykkaru), but I am way too lazy to sort gear, so give me a day or two, or point out faults.
Still to come, adding Anti's suggestions.

[Tykkaru]

I'm just shocked that you get magic that late! BRD is almost always #2 to get magic (after RDM) and usually you have a 50% chance to get 2 magics when opening the starting chest.

[Antithesis]

I'm just shocked that you get magic that late! BRD is almost always #2 to get magic (after RDM) and usually you have a 50% chance to get 2 magics when opening the starting chest.

No love for teh bards in Salvage! lol.

[Ssweet]

No love for teh bards in Salvage! lol.

thats so true when i brd or friend all we give them is ranged and magic lol. if they get gear its cause it was ffa =p. oh ya we also give them first chr cell

[Sozsensur]

Hi.

So I am kinda sorta back, but not really, but enough that I lurk KI, and log on. Therefore, I can get back to keeping this updated. I see some statements that need to be altered and stuff, but other than that, I also see not too much has changed. So, if there's another event, or new gear not listed that you all would like, let me know.

Does somepage still like to trojan people? If so, I can do wiki links, because I did like providing that option.

[Sozsensur]

Hello again. So I have updated the OP, also had to reformat according to the new KI. Based on the state of the game, the way linkshells do stuff, etc, the order of a lot of my gear may change. Anybody who wants to be bothered to read and respond, please do.

And just an FYI, I'm fully back, claimed an HNM, main Bard and or Thief in most events, requesting to be called for early morning shit, etc. So I will keep this updated.