[Shinsei]

Again, I am not saying there are.......but I just watched the new trailers, and maybe I'm blind, but I could have sworn I just saw a new weaponskill from sword and GA. The sword one "character's animation" is similar to KOTR but the graphical FX isn't....there was like a shperical white ball infront of em, toned with a bit of blue, then he hits it and it breaks? or soemthin like that. (Yea, I fail at describing something, sue me lol). and don't think I saw that GA ws before.


Like I said I could be wrong, but can anyone else look at the video again and tell me what they saw? I really wanna know if I'm going blind or what.

[Clink]

actually if you ask me it looks alot like cloud's Blade Beam from FF7 as a matter of fact it looks exactly like it.

Blade Beam is done at 00:31


Then look at the WoTG trailer again at 1:35 into the video

[Jinxone]

There is also the rose ws the redmage does. And yes the Gaxe one is new as well unless they changed the look of Metraton Torment. Yes the sword one is new as well, almost same finish as KOTR but there is no ball in KOTR so defenitly new ws's coming out in the new expansion. If not new, then modified.

[Teruko]

They just got new animations. the one from red mage was undoubtly Red lotus blade. and the pld was KOTR.
seeing from the vid looks like howling fist's animation has changed too ;o either way im stocked for this november. ^^

[MIR The Great]

the one from red mage was undoubtly Red lotus blade

Unfortunately i have the disagree, it appears that Red lotus blade is unavailable to RDMS


Oh and the PLD is most certainly not wielding an Excalibur.

[Yoona]

Teruko :
They just got new animations. the one from red mage was undoubtly Red lotus blade. and the pld was KOTR.
seeing from the vid looks like howling fist's animation has changed too ;o either way im stocked for this november. ^^

I highly highly doubt that they just redid the animations for the old WSs. They wouldn't have shown them in the trailer. That would be like them showing a BLM cast Blizzard V and then being like OHH thats just Blizzard I we redid the animation for it.

[MIR The Great]

they are new WS, period.

Oh God... this makes me think about a possibility that have been lurking on my mind for a while...

What if the past Vana Diel is a a huge "uncapped area", and by "uncapped" i mean... an area where the cap is not 75...

[Black Vivi]

Teruko :
They just got new animations. the one from red mage was undoubtly Red lotus blade. and the pld was KOTR.
seeing from the vid looks like howling fist's animation has changed too ;o either way im stocked for this november. ^^

How the hell could it be Red Lotus Blade?
1. RDM can't use it.
2. It's a Rose, Lotus' are white. >_>

-----edit-----
Woops my bad XD
Forgot it had Red in the name. :blush

[EternalFayth]

2. It's a Rose, Lotus' are white. >_>

I thought that was funny...

cuz, you know, the whole RED before Lotus obviously is just a word to confuse foes.

[IIIAlvaroIII]

Here's the thing, only 1 or 2 of a weapons weaponskills are actually used at any given time. We tend to stick with the most damaging ones we have, or ones that will open up lvl3 SC's, if the most damaging ones don't do that anyways. So with 14 different types of weapons that have weaponskills, that's over 100 weaponskills that aren't widely used. Why do we even need more WS's?
If anything I'd like to see new skillchain possibilities with the existing weaponskills.

[Black Vivi]

EternalFayth :

2. It's a Rose, Lotus' are white. >_>

I thought that was funny...

cuz, you know, the whole RED before Lotus obviously is just a word to confuse foes.

Woops my bad XD
Forgot it had Red in the name. :blush

[Heavensword]

RDM/lolWAR can use Red Lotus Blade. Leave it to SE to use that job combo, however.

I kinda wonder if they are the Nyzul weapons. Probably just updated animations, though.

[Shinsei]

IIIAlvaroIII :
Here's the thing, only 1 or 2 of a weapons weaponskills are actually used at any given time. We tend to stick with the most damaging ones we have, or ones that will open up lvl3 SC's, if the most damaging ones don't do that anyways. So with 14 different types of weapons that have weaponskills, that's over 100 weaponskills that aren't widely used. Why do we even need more WS's?
If anything I'd like to see new skillchain possibilities with the existing weaponskills.

Well you know...a possibility is that......these new weaponskills.....have different skillchain properties?...meaning........

Let's say.... 1 of the sword....could be fusion based?(i.e. be able to skillchain with shit like sharkbite/spinning slash who's on the frag side)....or even distortion based.


If they make em opposite sides to the ws we currently use or just diff spots on the chart in general, it opens for more possibilities.


Hell they could even make some of these open/close fragmentation too......you never know;p

[MIR The Great]

The players only use like 20% of all the available equipments and 5% of all the available foods because most of them are totally useless or subpar compared to others, but that doesn't stop SE from making new equipments and foods, even if those are totally lame. I mean... Who the hell wants to wear a corselet? Who? I have yet to see one since the time it was implemented, and it's been like 4 months or more.

That is to say that is not totally out of the question that SE will introduce new WS that in the end noone would ever use if not for fun.

[Cloull]

MIR The Great :
Who the hell wants to wear a corselet? Who? I have yet to see one since the time it was implemented, and it's been like 4 months or more.

I'd like to have one for when I'm soloing or ballista'ing on PLD/rdm. I've only ever seen one on Garuda, but the Star Sapphires to make them aren't that easy to come by, especially since few people can do the quest line for one.

[Barachiel]

IIIAlvaroIII :
Here's the thing, only 1 or 2 of a weapons weaponskills are actually used at any given time. We tend to stick with the most damaging ones we have, or ones that will open up lvl3 SC's, if the most damaging ones don't do that anyways. So with 14 different types of weapons that have weaponskills, that's over 100 weaponskills that aren't widely used. Why do we even need more WS's?
If anything I'd like to see new skillchain possibilities with the existing weaponskills.

If you look at it from an endgame perspective it's true, very few of the total weaponskills are actually used. However take note of the weaponskills people use as they level up and you'll see that most all of them are used as a mainstay for damage or different SCs. Like you said in the endgame we only use a few select ones, and that it would be good to see more skillchain options. That is just an argument to add new weaponskills, not an argument against them. SE couldn't re engineer the mainstay endgame weaponskills for more SC options as it would destabilize the entire renkei chart due to the fact that most of the mainstay weaponskills are gained in the mid 50's or early 60's. New weaponskills are the only option to increase SC possibilities.

[IIIAlvaroIII]

OK, yes, it is mostly an endgame perspective. However, we do have WS's like Energy Steal and Spirit Taker, which, from the SC charts and calculators I've seen, cannot be used in any SC. They aren't WS's directly used on the individual, like Starlight or Moonlight, but they are used on mobs to cause damage to MP and HP respectively, like other chainable WS, and therefore I think they should be chainable.
There's also WS combinations that don't make SC's. Just picking randomly at my SC chart, Shell Crusher > Guillotine doesn't make anything (correct me if I'm wrong). Make it so that current combinations of WS's make new effects. I'm just saying it'd be cool to see a new SC property. Possibly and Earth+Water for Erosion, or Wind+Fire for Smoke. Yeah, this could inconvenience a lot of people, but no more than adding new WS's I think.

[Matarro]

Teruko[/b]]the one from red mage was undoubtly Red lotus blade

It doesn't follow the same movement pattern as Red Lotus Blade from what I can tell by comparing the movie to the model viewer. Personally I don't think it's old WS with new animations.

[FalOhmUm]

Shinsei :
Again, I am not saying there are.......but I just watched the new trailers, and maybe I'm blind, but I could have sworn I just saw a new weaponskill from sword and GA. The sword one "character's animation" is similar to KOTR but the graphical FX isn't....there was like a shperical white ball infront of em, toned with a bit of blue, then he hits it and it breaks? or soemthin like that. (Yea, I fail at describing something, sue me lol). and don't think I saw that GA ws before.


Like I said I could be wrong, but can anyone else look at the video again and tell me what they saw? I really wanna know if I'm going blind or what.

I'll list my observations in the order they appear in the trailer:

1:23 Puppetmaster, Dancer, Warrior fighting a large Sandworm.
-You get to see the Dancer use a unknown Dagger weaponskill. Looks like it could either be a 1-hit or the finish of a multi-hit WS. Doesn't particularly look like anything neat.

1:23 Puppetmaster, Dancer, Warrior fighting a Gnat.
-You get to see the Dancer use another unknown Dagger weaponskill. Same figure motion as Wasp Sting. This however, is bright and flashy. Probably a 1-hit WS.

1:24 Puppetmaster, Dancer, Warrior fighting a monster that looks like a Slugma, from Pokemon.
-Dancer is using Evisceration. This obviously and clearly points out that the Dancer will have a profiency with Dagger, at least.

1:27 Red Mage, Ninja, Monk fighting a plant. Probably a distant cousin of the antagonist from Little Shop of Horrors.
-Red Mages uses a unknown Sword weaponskill. It obviously isn't Red Lotus Blade, as everyone here has pointed out, RDM can't learn it. Looks like he's using a Joyeuse and a Genbu's Shield.

1:29 Monk, Paladin fighting a pixie/fairy thing.
-Paladin uses a unknown Sword weaponskill. Similiar figure motion to using Knights of Round, but looks like a bit of Randgrith spliced into it. Looks good though!

1:30 Puppetmaster, Red Mage, Ninja fighting a vanilla Quadav.
-Puppetmaster uses a unknown Hand-to-Hand weaponskill. I have to step onto my soap box right now, sorry: To all the PUP that were getting squeemish because you thought you were getting Final Heaven... you're not. Shut up, please. You are not a Monk. You cannot equip Spharai. You cannot use Final Heaven. You're job probably didn't even exist during this point in Vana'diel history. The weapon just looks like a pair of Brass Knuckles. It doesn't sound or even look like Final Heaven. Okay, no more soap box. Sounds cool and looks half-way decent anyway.

1:32 Monk, Warrior, Paladin fighting a Gnat, I guess.
-The Warrior uses a unknown Great Axe weaponskill that looks dreadfully similiar to Metatron Torment. The blue color does look very nice though, but this weaponskill doesn't sound remotely similiar to Metraton Torment.

The only thing that comes to my mind is:
1- These are new weaponskills and are obtained via quests or missions or granted by a weapon.
2- They may be job specific weaponskills.
3- They look a hell of a lot better than most of the weaponskills currently available, IMO.

Just my thoughts and observations.

[Konnichiwa]

They would HAVE to add new WS's to dagger for DNC( hey, it is most likely going to be the main weapon for DNC)
because the first REAL dmg WS Dagger get is dancing egde - sharkbite, and for every Dagger wielding job. Evi.
You get DE @60 so if DNC had to wait for that. they would be useless for quite a long time.
Maybe they can wield other weapons, but SE shows us that Dagger will be our main weapo. (most likely)







(This post was made out of reading stuff from other people, and own oppinion, i hate when people say "Oh yeah it's gonna be this way cus i say so!)