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#4
Posted 05 November 2007 - 09:09 PM
Barachiel :
The list changes depending what you tank.
The list changes depending what you tank.
This is exactly true and its the reason why you can't just make a list of tanks. PLD and NIN are the two consistent exp tanks.
#5
Posted 05 November 2007 - 09:17 PM
PLD and NIN are the two consistant tanks for 90% of FFXI. MNK can't honestly be considered a tank thanks to paperthin DEF and their mitigation JAs are evasion (who evades HNMs?) and the other lowers their defence to the level of a new adventurer.
BLU would have made a good tank but everyone love BLU/THF DD and so SE took it in that direction. it can still tank, but it's kind of like a RDM.. situational.
Don't even make me laugh about SAM, Seigan and Parrying does not a tank make.
WAR? occasionally.
BLU would have made a good tank but everyone love BLU/THF DD and so SE took it in that direction. it can still tank, but it's kind of like a RDM.. situational.
Don't even make me laugh about SAM, Seigan and Parrying does not a tank make.
WAR? occasionally.
#7
Posted 06 November 2007 - 06:25 AM
PUP is able to tank... not good, just able, hate is a big issue.
With a little creativity, you can have pretty much everything tank, I've seen WHM/WAR tank using cures on himself to stay alive/keep hate with stoneskin and blink up before the start of each fight, trying to recast them right after they wear.
DRK/NIN has also tanked in merit parties from what I've seen (not often), using Drain/II and Dread Spikes and shadows to avoid damage while just doing alot of damage to keep the monster focused on them.
I remember that BRD used to be able to tank with Knight's Minne, but I think they can't do that anymore since the Mazurka hate nerf.
SAM/NIN works you know, use seigan/third eye for as long as you can then throw up a utsu: ni and try and survive the rest of the fight or something, IDK. (well I SUPPOSE it works).
If THF/NIN would have a better way of keeping hate (SA is the best they can do) they could problably tank better then NIN because of Evasion Bonus and naturally higher EVA.
IDK, just take a job and think of a way for it to keep hate and avoid damage and you have a tank, these are just some retarded examples I've seen/just thought of.
With a little creativity, you can have pretty much everything tank, I've seen WHM/WAR tank using cures on himself to stay alive/keep hate with stoneskin and blink up before the start of each fight, trying to recast them right after they wear.
DRK/NIN has also tanked in merit parties from what I've seen (not often), using Drain/II and Dread Spikes and shadows to avoid damage while just doing alot of damage to keep the monster focused on them.
I remember that BRD used to be able to tank with Knight's Minne, but I think they can't do that anymore since the Mazurka hate nerf.
SAM/NIN works you know, use seigan/third eye for as long as you can then throw up a utsu: ni and try and survive the rest of the fight or something, IDK. (well I SUPPOSE it works).
If THF/NIN would have a better way of keeping hate (SA is the best they can do) they could problably tank better then NIN because of Evasion Bonus and naturally higher EVA.
IDK, just take a job and think of a way for it to keep hate and avoid damage and you have a tank, these are just some retarded examples I've seen/just thought of.
#8
Posted 06 November 2007 - 06:32 AM
SAM WAR and MNK can probably tank more or less good in merit parties but you won't make me tank Tiamat lol
edit: seeing your character information you probably didn't go further than valkurm dunes so you don't really know what is tanking do you? Everyone and his mother can tank in the dunes.
edit: seeing your character information you probably didn't go further than valkurm dunes so you don't really know what is tanking do you? Everyone and his mother can tank in the dunes.
#9
Posted 06 November 2007 - 06:41 AM
Wars tanked till at least 55, alongside PLD, so normal party tanking =/= HNM/end-game tanking, which is what most players for reasons unknown, think tanking almost always refer to.
#10
Posted 06 November 2007 - 12:43 PM
Kleiner :
PLD and NIN are the two consistant tanks for 90% of FFXI. MNK can't honestly be considered a tank thanks to paperthin DEF and their mitigation JAs are evasion (who evades HNMs?) and the other lowers their defence to the level of a new adventurer.
BLU would have made a good tank but everyone love BLU/THF DD and so SE took it in that direction. it can still tank, but it's kind of like a RDM.. situational.
Don't even make me laugh about SAM, Seigan and Parrying does not a tank make.
WAR? occasionally.
PLD and NIN are the two consistant tanks for 90% of FFXI. MNK can't honestly be considered a tank thanks to paperthin DEF and their mitigation JAs are evasion (who evades HNMs?) and the other lowers their defence to the level of a new adventurer.
BLU would have made a good tank but everyone love BLU/THF DD and so SE took it in that direction. it can still tank, but it's kind of like a RDM.. situational.
Don't even make me laugh about SAM, Seigan and Parrying does not a tank make.
WAR? occasionally.
Actually, MNKs can make quite good tanks in Counter + gear.
#11
Posted 06 November 2007 - 12:52 PM
I tanked alot in the 50s, it was usually co-tank with another war but tanking none the less. If you have a good blu that can stun mob when you are recasting a war can be a very good main tank.
#12
Posted 06 November 2007 - 01:29 PM
When i was lving Blu back when it came out i tanked here and there, a few times in the dunes and once at 48ish in garlaige citadel.After that i've never tanked though might be fun.
#13
Posted 06 November 2007 - 07:05 PM
(Kleiner)
MNK can't honestly be considered a tank thanks to paperthin DEF and their mitigation JAs are evasion (who evades HNMs?) and the other lowers their defence to the level of a new adventurer.
Salvage. K. Thanks.
#16
Posted 06 November 2007 - 07:54 PM
WARs: Only WARs with balls of steel are capable of tanking. Many are pansy assed /NIN DD ONRI WARs. But a WAR who knows what they're doing is atleast on par with a good NIN. There was an LS on my server that tanked EVERYTHING with WARs though. Echo on Leviathan. Only time they used PLDs was for Jailer of Love. But they used WARs on all Wyrms (Fafnir and Nidhogg, as well as Tiamat) Aspidochelone, Limbus bosses, all of it.
#17
Posted 06 November 2007 - 08:16 PM
Corrderio :
Read meh posts...
Counter gear... nuff said.
Read meh posts...
Counter gear... nuff said.
Actually Corrderio the best setup would be Counter gear and Guard skill gear.. reason why the more gaurd skill you have the more chances for gaurding you do like shield blocking which in terms reduces damage and last I checked gaurd actually reduced damage by alot.
#19
Posted 06 November 2007 - 08:32 PM
If I remember you could counter and guard at the same time since there really isn't a skill for counter. It just happens which is why I'm guessing +Guard skill would be better that way you could get cross counters and use the Counter stance ability since that actually weakens defense like Berserk does but Idk how much it lowers it by since my MNK is only 37.
#20
Posted 06 November 2007 - 08:32 PM
I really wanna try tanking something big on my BLU,
I've been messing around in xp seeing what gets me a lot of hate (like against my SAM friend and his insane WSs D: )
So far, it seems, as long as I have sanction + auto refresh + some form of the spell refresh, I don't need to sub war for hate.
Basically, if you've ever tanked as nin without war sub, then you can figure out how to tank as blu/nin fairly easily.
I've been messing around in xp seeing what gets me a lot of hate (like against my SAM friend and his insane WSs D: )
So far, it seems, as long as I have sanction + auto refresh + some form of the spell refresh, I don't need to sub war for hate.
Basically, if you've ever tanked as nin without war sub, then you can figure out how to tank as blu/nin fairly easily.
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