[Natsuchii]

Heya. Before I start:

CoP, ToAU - not complete. No yigit pieces. Bard AFv2 5/5

So far my gear is as follows (sorry for wall of text):

Weapons - NQ Earth and Light staffs with Bugard Leather Strap. Kard, Swan Bibo (for /nin), Joyeuse)
Horns/Harps - Threnody, Lullaby, Preude, Elegy, Acc, March, Madrigal, Mambo, Minuet (+1 or +2 to those instruments possible)
Head - Bard Roundlet
Neck - Wind Torque
Earrings - Melody +1 x2
Body - Minstrel's, Errent
Hands - Zenith Mitts, Sha'ir Gages
Rings - Angel's x2
Cape - Jester's +1
Belt - Gleeman's
Legs - Sha'ir Seraweels, Bard Cannions
Feet - Bard's Slippers, Rostrum Pumps


I've gone for pure CHR gear since I was a n00b and I guess it's time for a change. I see a lot of BRDs with B-ring from ToAU and B-ring/Angel's or Light Ring combo. Minstrel's Ring worth having or B-ring/Tamas? Feet Voluteer's Nails or Sha'irs? As for body well, I don't see myself getting Osode or Manteel anytime soon. I don't do a lot of Assualt so no Yigit body. I have no haste gear. I know this seems so n00bish but I never really looked at it before. Want to make sure I get everything about BRD down before I throw it into endgame. Other BRDs have said that having full god gear on helps with pulling. I pull with elegy horn and Earth Staff swap in macros. I understand the Kabuto for the +VIT and the Haidate for haste but is the rest worth the inventory space? For sea stuff (when and if I ever get sea) Musical earring is used a lot with Loq. earring. Is this better than Melody +1s? A. Cape > Jester's?

As for singing/wind/string skill - What does this do exactlly? Increase the range of the songs? Increase potentcy of sticking the spell? Same question for CHR. With NIN subbed I have 65+64 CHR. But what is that +64 really doing for me? Also I heard that Mary's Horn has much less of a chance at resisting lullaby than Nursemaid's Harp because of wind/string. Is this true?

Merits - I know Nightingale and Troubadour are worth getting. What about the rest of it? CHR, + minuet, + madrigal? I also have a 75 BLM which makes it difficult on choosing if I want Elemental magic and enfeeb or stick with elemental and wind. I'm guessing I can only fully cap either INT or CHR or just do 1/2 and 1/2.

Sorry for all the questions and wall of textness. Thanks so much for reading >< Any adivce or critisim gladly taken. [Help me out!] lol

[ummhi]

I'm pretty sure a simple search or "LOOK AT STICKIES!" would be used here.

[Tarl]

http://killingifrit.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=122303

Skill increases buffs and effects debuff accuracy.
Chr effects debuff accuracy, with diminishing returns after ~120 (iirc)
Wind instruments have a higher debuff accuracy.


If you can't hit ~110-120 wth gear, you're prolly doing something wrong, so don't go through the hell of meriting chr over int.

Apollo's staff is made of win.

Where did you get a minuet earring +1, and how do you have two of them? I think you mean melody earring? >.>

Body is fine, Osode is the same amount of chr+ as errant with no enmity-... Use the minstrel's coat for buffing since it has skill+

Try and get AF hands+1, I'd think NQ better than sha'ir though, skill+5 chr+4 vs chr+5

Minstrel's ring is <3 and chr does nothing to buffs. If you have the gil to get ring go for it. Bear in mind you need to be able to get to lower than 76% of max HP (by lowering your current HP, increasing your max HP or a combination of the two) for the ring to work.

Choral Cannions+1 are nice for buffing and debuffing, if you have a limbus shells.

Unless you regularly use string (and if so why?) bards slippers not helping you. I personally use rostrum pumps for the fast cast+, but there are enfeebling options too. Sha'ir maybe?


I think most brd pull with utsusemi these days, but if you get stuck with a mage sub then god gear is nice because high def+. I normally just swap to debuff gear for pulling, then swap to buff gear somewhere between camp and the pull (so my HP change can take effect for minstrel's), since defence+utsusemi=wasted effort on brd. If you didn't level /nin yet though... ummm... go do it >.>

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And yes. Read stickies. <.<;

[SCREAMWHENUBURN]

Tarl :
And yes. Read stickies. <.<;

Read OP <.<;

y r u telling him to get AF+1 shaitz while he clearly stated CoP not complete?
which probably means no sea access?
which probably means no limbus ls?
which probably means no items to upgrade AF to AF+1?

[Sozsensur]

Hi.

Gear: Is not bad. It's right around where I was when I began endgame. Upgrade your staves, apply AF1 Hands in debuffing situations(so that you'll know how great it will be when you eventually upgrade someday), try to get Rostrums. With the feet options you gave, Sha'ir would be better. You should have enough Chr, and thus the miniscule 1% haste will do you better. Also, please get a Turban. AF2 is fabulous, I hate you because I don't have one, but still, Turban has its usefulness.

You do not want a full Chr setup in endgame, you want some skill+ options as well. Musical is better than Melody +1, Loquacious is better once you've reached that Chr cap(you find that out emperically; if you notice less resists, slap on a fast cast earring). Most God gear is situational, including Haidate and Osode. Compared to the other things you don't have yet, I wouldn't rank either of these as priorities. And once again, A. Cape > Jester's when you're at "enough Chr" status, or looking for moar mp.

For reasons still unknown, Mary's > Nursemaid's. Skill gives a slight increase(when relatively stockpiled) to your buffs, and landing accuracy on your debuffs. As stated before, probably 40 or 50 of that +64 is doing you good...the rest can go to Haste/MP/Skill/Enmity, or w/e the situation calls for.

Merits: Troub and Night are nice, but they shouldn't be your first. Minuet and Lullaby are arguably the best Tier 1 merits, and their bonuses will apply every time you merit, throughout the session...versus a couple of 15-20 minutes recastable songs. I will merit wind/singing, since I have no other mage. You should do a little of wind and/or singing, but do whatever makes you comfortable with Bard and Blm. Don't gimp Blm for your Bard; no need to. Cap Int, meriting Chr is truly for the "I had no other option" levelers.

To conclude, it's fine you don't have sea, but go get sea, if you're trying to be an endgamer. B Ring is fine, but not worth dropping everything and rushing through ToAU...see what WotG might bring, or just stick with the Angel's. Probably once you upgrade staves, you can pursue a linkshell and then build your experience and gear.

[Tarl]

Read OP <.<;

y r u telling him to get AF+1 shaitz while he clearly stated CoP not complete?
which probably means no sea access?
which probably means no limbus ls?
which probably means no items to upgrade AF to AF+1?

I see a lot of BRDs with B-ring from ToAU and B-ring/Angel's or Light Ring combo. Minstrel's Ring worth having or B-ring/Tamas?

Did you read the OP? He mentions Tamas ring which is from finishing PM. If Tamas is something to aim for, then AF+1 isn't a huge leap from that, considering that Tamas is a few missions after sea and limbus access... Its not like getting sea/limbus access is out of the question as brd75, and you can farm items with pretty low numbers. Although admittedly, I did say "if you have a limbus shell" which is the only real foundation to your post...

Most of the things I mentioned were not from PM though.

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I forgot to mention yigit gomlek. Song cast-10% is nice for buffing with, sooner you start working towards it sooner you get it. Took me quite a while slowly collecting Periqia points but after a while I got there in the end. If you can set up a static with some other brd can do in just a few weeks though. Saving Private Ryaaf is a joke, but you need Superior Private for that one. The ones before that kinda hard :/

Oh, and I meant to say what Sozsensur about skill earrings too >.>;

Troubador is nice, but situational. I'd say its worth throwing some spare merits into it just to unlock it, but don't waste merits capping it. Kinda a low priority.

You should do a little of wind and/or singing, but do whatever makes you comfortable with Bard and Blm. Don't gimp Blm for your Bard; no need to. Cap Int, meriting Chr is truly for the "I had no other option" levelers.

QFT I'd think that capping elemental skill will do far more for your blm than capping both singing and wind will do for brd.

[Natsuchii]

oy sorry about that. Noticed I should make a few edits. I meant to say Melody +1s not Minstrel's +1. Also left out that I already had R. Pumps from my BLM and to clarify.. I have a vagina ^^ so definatly not male tee-hee. I've had 2 endgame LSs in the passed 2 yearsish but that was all BLM. I just got my BRD to 75 last week. Almost done with CoP 5-3 so I'll start looking at A cape, Loq Earring, and all those other goodies from sea. Eventually I'll get around to Yigit. Now that WotG is out and so are those new leet skeet lvl 51 wind +2(3) rings, I'm assuming > CHR +4x2?

Edit: I use whm and nin for subs. Nin for solo or at colibris.

[Tarl]

I have a vagina ^^ so definatly not male tee-hee.

My apologies.

Now that WotG is out and so are those new leet skeet lvl 51 wind +2(3) rings, I'm assuming > CHR +4x2?

If you already reached ~120ish chr without rings, yeah prolly. If not, I think its open to debate. For buffing though, skil is always > than chr, but do bear in mind that the most often songs (read: minuet, march, ballad) reach their caps with relatively little skill+ at 75.

[SCREAMWHENUBURN]

Tarl :

Read OP <.<;

y r u telling him to get AF+1 shaitz while he clearly stated CoP not complete?
which probably means no sea access?
which probably means no limbus ls?
which probably means no items to upgrade AF to AF+1?

I see a lot of BRDs with B-ring from ToAU and B-ring/Angel's or Light Ring combo. Minstrel's Ring worth having or B-ring/Tamas?

Did you read the OP? He mentions Tamas ring which is from finishing PM.

HELLO!

CoP, ToAU - not complete.

[Sozsensur]

OK but she asked was Tamas worth getting which means that she intends to tackle Sea. Do note that I also pointed that out in the initial post.

Nobody in 2007 should feel that they deserve to be in an HNMLS if they have no intention of getting sea. If shit has happened and you didn't have it/didn't have a linkshell that warranted the effort, fine. But an HNMLS or a participant that doesn't touch any aspect of sea, be it for gear, kills, or alternate xp, is lame.

So stop nitpicking with your anonymity, and make sure you have sea yourself.

[Natsuchii]

o.o? Hehe yea I definatly will be getting Sea. Just got to 6-4 today so almost done. /cheer. So yea Jelly Ring and Cheviot Cape worth getting for pulling for the -pys thing?

[Tarl]

If you're pulling you'll most likely be /nin, so not a high priority imo.

Good luck with 6-4 ^^b

[Janeash]

Hmm before I got my bard's roundlet, I used to use Genbu's Kabuto and Osode when I was pulling as /nin because of the added def and vit.
I don't see many BRDs using it but it worked for me.

[SCREAMWHENUBURN]

Sozsensur :
So stop nitpicking with your anonymity, and make sure you have sea yourself.

I had sea before you found out who your real father was

[Kaparu]

No offense, but I really hope that your avatar is a picture of yourself.

If you're going to go around, randomly acting like an obnoxious whore, you had better be able to back it up.

Well now, I suppose that was meant to be offensive. :dozingoff

[Akashi@Caitsith]

Stop being a complete bitch, SCREAMWHENUBURN. You've been doing well so far on this forum, but Tarl has been here longer than you giving out accurate and informative opinions on how to gear/play Bard. So what if he SUGGESTED AF+1 hands? Is it wrong to set goals? I'm sure Natsuchii will eventually get sea and, when she does, she'll have a better understanding on which AF+1 to get (even though, imo, it's extremely obvious).

[LANCELOTIS]

So, IS Tamas worth it for BRD? I currently have a Sattva, and I haven't dropped and switched yet.

I'm not level 30 BRD yet, but I'm definitely mainlining BRD to 75 as fast as I can.

[Akashi@Caitsith]

Posting on my wii so forgive any typos...

If you're a career pld then there is no reason for you to get tamas. Vice versa for BRD. It comes down to preference because both are really good for both jobs (also both situational with the right gear. You're a pld, I don't have to spell it out for you:p). If you decide to keep sat., then an astral/ether/serket will do for mp, and trooper's for -enm.

[Antithesis]

Akashi@Caitsith :
Posting on my wii so forgive any typos...

If you're a career pld then there is no reason for you to get tamas. Vice versa for BRD. It comes down to preference because both are really good for both jobs (also both situational with the right gear. You're a pld, I don't have to spell it out for you:p). If you decide to keep sat., then an astral/ether/serket will do for mp, and trooper's for -enm.

Listen to ze Dr. Akashi he speakz ze truth

[Kaparu]

That reminded me of that annoying Windurstian NPC that thinks she's French... :scream