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| Take Aim | (8 / 10 / 09 ) Updated Ranger Guide

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User is offline   Lambtor 

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if anyone has a COR and SAM friend i'd be interested in learning if it were possible to self skillchain via barrage with samurai roll active. if this were possible, i'd also like to know what the minimum delay weapon necessary would be to still make it happen.

with sam roll active i've noticed shark gun goes from returning 16 TP to 25 TP per shot if the COR has rolled XI and a SAM is in the party. since a 75 RNG gets up to 6 shots, on paper that'd mean each NQ shot with the roll enhancement would need to generate 15.5% TP. i'm sure there's a crossbow out there someplace with a delay low enough to make this a possibility.

if anyone can try this please post your results here or send a PM.

i should probably PM this but imo hachiryu legs and feet are the best possible combination of leg and feet you can get in the game for RNG for almost any situation or setup. 10 str and 10 agi in those 2 slots > any combo of stats we can get in those 2 areas.
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Lambtor :
with sam roll active i've noticed shark gun goes from returning 16 TP to 25 TP per shot if the COR has rolled XI and a SAM is in the party. since a 75 RNG gets up to 6 shots, on paper that'd mean each NQ shot with the roll enhancement would need to generate 15.5% TP. i'm sure there's a crossbow out there someplace with a delay low enough to make this a possibility.

You don't need XI if you're /SAM
HF+1 + /SAM + Rajas + 1 STP from somewhere and any roll between VII and XI inclusive will give you >= 25.0 TP return
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There are only a handful of ways I have been able to self sc.

#1 Ws -> Barrage -> Ws
#2 Ws -> KCx8x8 -> Ws
#3 WS -> IC Wing -> Ws

What exactly are you trying to find out?
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i'm trying to find out if it's possible to self SC using only barrage.

start w/ 100+ tp,
activate barrage,
WS
ratk (barrage fires, brings you back over 100 tp)
WS again

you'd need a weapon that can fire fast enough and get you enough TP return to do it. so far it's been impossible using only ratks but i wonder of COR sam roll can change that. HF is not a fast enough ranged weapon to fire and get that TP. you only have a few seconds after a WS to get that second WS off for the chain- HF(+1) is too slow to do that alone. i'm trying to figure out what the conditions would have to be to make it fast enough. 6 hits with othinus' might be enough TP but it's still a bit slow. with massive store TP+ i'm thinking it might be doable if you can get a ranged weapon with low enough delay.
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Lambtor :
i should probably PM this but imo hachiryu legs and feet are the best possible combination of leg and feet you can get in the game for RNG for almost any situation or setup. 10 str and 10 agi in those 2 slots > any combo of stats we can get in those 2 areas.

Hachiryu legs + relic+1 feet?

you'd need a weapon that can fire fast enough and get you enough TP return to do it. so far it's been impossible using only ratks but i wonder of COR sam roll can change that. HF is not a fast enough ranged weapon to fire and get that TP. you only have a few seconds after a WS to get that second WS off for the chain- HF(+1) is too slow to do that alone. i'm trying to figure out what the conditions would have to be to make it fast enough. 6 hits with othinus' might be enough TP but it's still a bit slow. with massive store TP+ i'm thinking it might be doable if you can get a ranged weapon with low enough delay.

There is no currently existing weapon that fulfills both of the following:

a) fires faster than O-bow
cool.gif is worth shooting slugs/barrages from

Long story short: if O-bow is too slow to make it work, then it's almost certainly not even worth the effort. And you don't need Samurai Roll at all to try it; RNG/SAM can do it with a 6-shot O-bow+DSB barrage.
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Lambtor :
HF is not a fast enough ranged weapon to fire and get that TP. you only have a few seconds after a WS to get that second WS off for the chain- HF(+1) is too slow to do that alone.

You need to cap snapshot and try it.
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still no sticky eh?
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#108
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The forum gods do not hear our prayers. They demand sacrifice.
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#109
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they had no problem jumping on a thread to lock it, why they ignore doing what people want for so long?
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I'm pissed they locked both of those threads, I thought they were hilarious. lol
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Like most forums, the mods are useless.
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Hello!
I haven't played RNG since I got it as subjob for COR (back when the news on corsair was released ~2years ago).

I was wondering if the Noct gear is really worth it when you're duking out 2x Archer's knives and sushi for the r.acc? Could I exchange the rest for STR gear from my Taru RSE instead?

Also, I was wondering, if I pull hate from shooting normal arrows/bolts, should I stop and wait for the tank to regain hate? D:
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QUOTE (Tykkaru @ Aug 26 2008, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello!
I haven't played RNG since I got it as subjob for COR (back when the news on corsair was released ~2years ago).

I was wondering if the Noct gear is really worth it when you're duking out 2x Archer's knives and sushi for the r.acc? Could I exchange the rest for STR gear from my Taru RSE instead?

Also, I was wondering, if I pull hate from shooting normal arrows/bolts, should I stop and wait for the tank to regain hate? D:


Yes, HQ Noct gear is very well worth it. Its only about a couple more thousand gil more than NQ. Also what you wanna do is when you start pting, shoot some arrows/bolts first and see if your hitting accuractly with no sushi. If so use meat, if not use sushi. Adjust your gear according to the food you use.

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Still no sticky.
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Try to directly contact the mod?
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#116
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Great guide overall.
However, some of the WS info listed in the OP is incorrect.
Piercing Arrow (40) (listed as 3rd WS at lvl 70 skill in OP)
Dulling Arrow (80) (listed as 2nd WS at lvl 40 skill in OP)
Sniper Shot (80) (listed as 70 skill in OP)
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Update day yay lol. Since I went over to the Bard forums and touched up the guide to look prettier after the forum movement It took me a while to get to edit the Ranger one.

Well here are your updates tongue.gif

- Adjusted a problem where near the end of one post information would be cut out leaving valuble information out.

- General guide has been reorganized

- Links section is now visible

- Spelling errors have been fix as much as possible

- Color coordinated sections have been removed.

- Wrong information has been corrected

- New pictures added into the guide

- Renamed the "Onward" section to "Advancing towards the Goal"

If anyone see's anything wrong such as [purple]s and stuff still in the guide let me know. Other than that enjoy your new updated guide smile.gif
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Sorry for the bump but need to ask the community a question.

Is there anything left in the guide that you see might need a significant change? Something you would like added? etc? Please post here thank you.
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Nothing big at all... but even though Pahluwan are better, Galliard Trousers are still pretty damned viable for WSing in @ 75. ^.^
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Noted and Added.
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