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http://pastebin.no/3041

[18:54] sprynex: (Link: http://www.ffxi-poisoned.com/downloads/ser...oads/server.jpg

Oh shit, the urls match?

Another picture of the server:




Happy new year smile.gif They are full of BS and lies just like Merc smile.gif hehaheha

Sprynex is Sonix if you didnt know already smile.gif GET OUT OF THIS BITCH!
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Heh, well yes I am "Sprynex" on aim.. but that conversation is highly editted.. I don't even recognize 10% of it.. so taba, I know you're upset because we kicked you out because you are a lying piece of shit, but don't continue that strategy by trying to make us out to be some botters. Why don't you post that screenshot I showed you of some bot server too and frame us some more.. Infact, let me upload some pictures of ffxiapp and mr argus and some other bots so we can say we use all of those too... Whatever, I was warned about you and gave you a chance anyway, I regret it.
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PsnSonix :
Heh, well yes I am "Sprynex" on aim.. but that conversation is highly editted.. I don't even recognize 10% of it.. so taba, I know you're upset because we kicked you out because you are a lying piece of shit, but don't continue that strategy by trying to make us out to be some botters. Why don't you post that screenshot I showed you of some bot server too and frame us some more.. Infact, let me upload some pictures of ffxiapp and mr argus and some other bots so we can say we use all of those too... Whatever, I was warned about you and gave you a chance anyway, I regret it.


What portions do you recognize? Because it seems that Sonix and 3 BOTS were logged on from the same IP address at the same time to claim Nidhogg. If that doesn't get 3 accounts busted, I don't know what would. I mean, it has timestamps and everything. All SE would have to do is check their logs and see if, in fact, four or more accounts were logged on from the same IP address and one of them was Sonix.

Also, since it seems that at some point and time Poisoned's website was also hosting the FFXI-App website. Seems to tie in nicely with the fact that no Poisoned members got on the FFXI-App list that was "leaked" last year. Almost as if the list was "doctored" up to remove Poisoned members before being leaked..

And it does give credence to the rumor I heard about Teiko and Liquidskies being added to that list just out of spite. I'm not 100% convinced of that, but it makes more sense now.

Sonix, this isn't a personal attack against you. This is you guys getting cocky and sloppy about cheating at a multi-player video game and bragging about it.
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Actually, this screenshot is real. Not only is this Sonix's typing style, but all IPs resolve to Sprynex, which IS sonix's hosting company since forever. FFXI App's website, Poisoneds, and Sprynexs, all resolve to the same host. I would not be surprised if Sonix bargained some deal with the FFXI APP creators where he provided free hosting in exchange for free use or some other arrangement. A quick godaddy search shows all three urls are hosted by sprynex something already proven with the nslookup.

http://home.comcast.net/~timsimmons/PSNBots.jpg

That said, this is not really anything new, but it is good solid, undeniable, proof. You could easily deduce who is botting by analyzing the following. Consider that if MerucyX is botting at every camp and that a bot is designed to win claims 100% of the time, anyone who beats MercuryX to a pull is also likely botting. Really I wouldn't be surprised if some of these LSes were/are involved in the big RMT industries as well given their low standards for fair play. Already we know they used many bought accounts for various LS functions. We also known current members are proven fish botters, etc, it would not be a huge leap to assume they are hardcore RMT employees as well. I would not be surprised if one or more members was behind/involved in the recent RMT hackings of many player accounts across all servers. Finally, I would not be surprised if PSN somehow turned off Mercury's access to the cheat program thereby forcing them to leave servers.

For those of you who were cheating to beat MercX and now must cheat to beat PSN, please stop when PSN dies out. Then we can all go back to a more fair claim system where atleast we know without a bot there is a chance to win the claim for the three hours spent camping. The justification of "everyone is doing it", "its just a game who cares if we cheat", yea thats all well and good but everyone is not doing it, mercury did it, poison does it, and some other people to beat them. That is far from everyone.

With all this said, all I can really do is apologize to Mercury and Psn. PJs crushed you guys for so long, so hard, and with fair play tactics that you became disgruntled, discouraged, and turned to cheating. All you can do now is cheat and accumulate, but at the end of the day, no one really gives a shit, but atleast you got a cool website right guys ? So good game to all you mercury and psn newbs who kept talking shit about how good you are and how of course you don't cheat. Mercury is shit, PSN is shit, PJs ruled you, MirageBrigade ruled you, KnightsOfDandelion ruled you, Dice ruled you, now and forever, thread end, FFXI end.

To everyone else, don't lose hope about getting the gear you want in the game. The HNMs are extremely easy, the only barrier now is ffxiapp, and that won't last forever. Not everyone has to cheat to claim them. PSN will eventually die and you will have your chance. There are still many good NA linkshells on the server that do not cheat. Just be patient, Square-Enix might save us.

Inutock once said something along the lines of.. "We are psned, we dont care what we do, we break rules and are assholes, but we dont apologize for it, we stand up to it" Stand up to it now, admit you cheat, don't make excuses, you got caught, accept it, end of story.
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fndragon,

We just started hosting ffxiapps website recently. way after the list was released. I do hosting for a living, and I was able to give him a more happy home. I'll take $10 from him any day of the week.. that's business. I had NO contact with iifuzz until AFTER the list got out, then I messaged him and offered my security services as a show of good faith, in an ATTEMPT to get mercury removed from using ffxiapp.. but fuzz said he couldn't do that, and apologized. as time went on he needed hosting, and came to me to offer the business because of the favor I did for him earlier.. that's the truth.

Se can check the logs, but last time I looked dual/tri boxing isn't against TOS. I always have atleast 3-4 accounts logged in from my ip, but not at the aery or anything.. mules in rolandberry/watching hnms.. whatever lol.

here we go.. for all of you.. here is .. MY BOT!




Edit:

Oh I missed the reply by lolthay.. you still play? your ls got destroyed at tiamat not by bots, but by pure camping by poisoned.. go crawl back into the hole you came from. You are nothing, you were nothing. How many times did we catch kaindgs not able to target darters and he magically dc'd, gtfo.

Anyway as I already admitted, I host ffxiapp.com, and I got no problem taking money from him, It isn't an illegal business like porn, and I will continue to host his WEBSITE.

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: FFXIAPP.COM
Created on: 28-Jan-06
Expires on: 28-Jan-09
Last Updated on: 16-Dec-07


Last updated dec/16/07.. that's when he moved his dns to sprynex, way after the list was released. And for all of you idiots who think we arent on the list because of this.. the db got hacked, ask taj.. you can't "hide" names.. he got the entire db.. if you aren't in the list, you don't work. period.

furthermore, to tim's "fake" ignorance about botting.. no bot claims 100%, not mercs, no pjs, and not the bot I posted in this screenshot. bots assist, they don't claim 100%. merc has been beaten by mb, us, pjs, and everyone else here and there.. all bots do is increase the odds. I know alot about bots, I know alot about computers, I know alot about alot of things I don't do. Having knowledge isn't a guilty verdict.. and I refuse to play ignorant to how bots work so the community of this game thinks I don't do it. Believe what you want, we know the truth.
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Taba? Nah, dont even know the name

Sonix is a good talker, always been, always going to be!
Why dont you just admit it and be done with it, nothing will change, people always knew/believed you cheated anyway..
Just really good at covering it up hehe

Again, GET OUT OF THIS BITCH!
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#7

The fact that you are on this forum in three years desperatly trying to denounce this says wonders. Haha yea, you just host it, and mercury was using it for the cool maps right? When did you become such a pussy, admit you cheat, end of story. Keep the desperate replies coming, the evidence is here, finally. But like you said already, you don't care, or you wouldn't have been so stupid. Whipping together a visual basic program in the last 10 minutes and posting an SS of it does not mean anything. This is enough for your lackeys to be convinced though, so good job!

Ah yes, your claim to fame, killing Tiamat a year later with a cannibalized highschool army after we had already had done it 35 times against actual hard core JP competition. It must be so beastly while its sitting there ASLEEP. The sad part about your Tiamat, is that you are the only member present through the 100+ kills from start to finish, and even you took a break for a while. So basically, in the whole PSN Tiamat run, not one single member has been in the LS the entire time, how pathetic.

Treadmill time, I will be checkin this thread in 60 minutes.
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I think I already posted the proof of when I started hosting it thanks, you can continue to make shit up all you want. Business is business, I can seperate that from personal unlike you. The "hardcore" competition of jp you speak of at tiamat still comes around for their couple hours a day and tries, and they get it sometimes.. Pjs couldnt even stand up to us, they tried like twice, lost and cried.. then disbanded. our first 30 tiamat kills were non sleep, we started doing it once we had to claim at 6am and hold thanks, and now with over 114 kills, we have more gaiters then you do tiamat kills. Your ls has accomplished nothing worth mentioning, and your ls doesn't exist.. so here's the deal, come back and play against us, prove me wrong, or shut up and go about your crying on a forum like the troll you are.

edit: Penus is right, people will always think we bot, mercury did even though we lost so many claims to them. that's ok, continue to think we bot.. but with mercury gone, you watch how many linkshells actually get claims now, if they bring the members to make it happen. We won't stop, and we won't give up in "fear" that you think we bot.. when you see 30 poisoned in the zone, you better bring 30 of your own to make a fair chance.

Free tip for all on pulling.. poisoneds super secrets. Stagger your f'n casts / delays / spells and you might win.. 30 people spamming flash really doesn't accomplish much.
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I'm just going to post some things here:

020 [18:50] sprynex: 4 nidhoggs and 5 kb's aint an accident.
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042 [18:52] sprynex: we dont bot on our mains
043 [18:52] sprynex: at all
044 [18:52] sprynex: we got like 11-13 mules who do it
045 [18:52] n0thingowns: yeah thats fine
046 [18:52] sprynex: and its amazing
047 [18:52] sprynex: the server side sync up
048 [18:52] n0thingowns: but that tool is sick
049 [18:52] sprynex: i wrote the server
050 [18:53] n0thingowns: ah
051 [18:54] sprynex: (Link: http://www.ffxi-poisoned.com/downloads/ser...oads/server.jpg
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060 [18:58] sprynex: i got 3 comps botting right now
061 [18:58] sprynex: + sonix whos not
062 [18:58] sprynex: lol


So, website hosting aside, what do you say to that? You can claim that getting all those kings is due to superior "skill", but anybody who's ever camped kings knows it's not skill. It's who has the better bots, and in lieu of bots, who has the lucker team. Luck doesn't account for a 100% claim rate. The only thing that would guarantee a 100% claim rate is bots. There's no way to "Stagger your casts" when the mob pops purple.
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That entire section is made up, and yes I agree, pulling isn't purely skill. there is some "skill" to how you setup your pullers, deciding on who's casting what.. etc... but in the end there's a degree of luck.. nothing pops purple, maybe 1/30 times to my computer it does, but never to ps2. If you are seeing that, then you have lag issues and that sucks. You can adjust settings to fix / help fix that.

Staggering your claims does everything for us, and we haven't had 100% claim rate.. we've gotten the last 8 nidhoggs, which is insane. but the competition at them has been nill. the first 3-4 wre heavy camped, then merc / other ppl assumed we botted, and stopped showing in force.. 1 of them was first or second window with 30 of us and 10 others in zone.. no brainer.. we lost the second to last KB to miragebrigade, again that isn't a very camped hnm on this server. 60 people in zone or less, 30 of them always us... 50% claim rate assuming everything is equal, and.. since i dont think everyone is staggering their shit like we do, i think we have the advantage, and the claims show it. Mercury botted, but they didn't have alot of bots.. 3-4 .. which helps alot, but that doesn't make it impossible to claim against at all.. most of the nidhoggs we got recently aphira/asa weren't even there.

I gotta go afk for an hour, we just "Botted" this khimaira that's standing here still yellow.. I mean... were going to bot claim it in about a minute.. erm.. yeah.
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PsnSonix :
That entire section is made up


That's the entirety of the truth? That on the 19th, which is 3 days after you took over hosting ffxiapp, that a chatlog where you discuss taking over the hosting of ffxiapp is completely made up?

And then in this thread, you admit to knowing intimately *how* the bots work, but deny using them.

Furthermore, in the log, you talk about writing the "server" code yourself, and link to a .jpg on your linkshell website.

And you admit to talking to iifuzz on a professional level by hosting his website, however you deny the parts of the chatlog where you talk about iifuzz on a consumer level about having and using advanced versions of his tools?

There's just too many connections to say the whole section is made up. Subtle ones, much subtler than that image you just created and hosted. On ffxi-poisoned.com. Which is very curious because that's the same server that you posted the "server.jpg" file for convenience in the chatlog. And yet you'd say that was "made up" even though you just showed that it is part of your modus operandi.
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If that is the case, then Sonix was trying to make me download this shit last night cause some guy gave me that exact same address to download along with a picture. Nice try Sonix but I don't cheat tyvm and I never will. Good luck banning me.
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Kiyara what? Lol Is that a joke? Im so confused.. I don't know you.

Yes I admit to knowing how bots work, along with many things on the internet.

I said the entire section you posted was made up, not the entire log. The server.jpg has been (Was) on our server for a LONG time... atleast 6 months, I was showing my ls what kinda tools were out there.. taba as well.. he took that link and was clever about reworking it into this hack job of a chat transcript.. clever, what can I say.

I talk to iifuzz alot, sometimes about bots, sometimes about his website, when you got a customer like that, it's nice to talk geek stuff because he understands it.. he knows I don't run app.. he isn't giving my any special secrets, but we can talk programming.. sorry if that offends anyone.. wait, no I am not lol.

I've already stated by business with iifuzz.. while I don't really like what he did with app for the community, i'm not going to turn down business or not talk to him.. because after getting to know him with the business he is a pretty respectable guy.. not what you'd expect from a bot creator.. I don't have to justify my friendships to anyone.. iifuzz will not disclose who does/does not bot, but if he reads this, I wish he would comment on poisoned using app or not. Even though the list being released should be proof enough.. unless you think we bought it AFTER the list got released and started botting with it.. idk.. think what you want, by that account we've been playing this game for 3 years w/o bots so you got maybe the last 2 months on us.. alllllright.. whatever smile.gif I gotta go out for the night, enjoy your drama.. and please remember to cry some more when we claim, it makes us laugh.

Edit: I've said everything I need to say.. those who knows poisoned know we haven't claimed for shit until recently.. and you attribute that to botting, luck, my gigantic wang, whatever you want. If these claims continue I won't feel bad, nor should I.. I've delt against enough bots for so long and we kept coming back, this is our karma. If you still think we bot then.. don't show up.. don't camp... it will make it easier for us. Good luck to all.. This is my last reply. so now you can continue to bash on us like cowards w/o fear of a reply.

Editted for mistake: "We" didnt release the list, that was a typo in a hasty post. Not reply to the rest of your garbage.
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So just because Ifuzz, the creator of the most used cheating program on FFXI said you never used it means it's true? That's legit lol

They used to cry when you claimed, now they will just know you are nothing better than Niki, they guy you have called botting scum on about every news page youve made the last year.. Funny!
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Sonix, that chatlog is not edited.

Nor is it me who made the post, get an admin to check IPs.

Infact, I didnt want that pastebin to get leaked, I gave it to a handful of people so I could probally narrow it down, but do you know what? I don't give a flying shit anymore because you're a worthless piece of trash.

The truth is you're hosting FFXIAPP for FREE because Mauricio Turneus (iifuzz) gave you parts of the source code for the packet injection bot.

Anyways,
[18:54] sprynex: (Link: http://www.ffxi-poisoned.com/downloads/ser...oads/server.jpg

Oh shit, the urls match?

Another picture of the server:



And you have no rights to say shit about me Sonix, I did nothing to harm Poisoned.

Again, get admin to check OP vs me. You already know my IP and I'm hosting from *ntnu.no again. Admin can verifiy that this is my current IP.

Sincerly, Tab.
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PsnSonix :
I said the entire section you posted was made up, not the entire log.

Actually you said you didn't recognize 10% of the chatlog. So which parts are real and which parts are falsified?

I talk to iifuzz alot, sometimes about bots, sometimes about his website, when you got a customer like that, it's nice to talk geek stuff because he understands it.. he knows I don't run app.. he isn't giving my any special secrets, but we can talk programming.. sorry if that offends anyone.. wait, no I am not lol.

No, that's perfectly fine. I "talk programming" too, but what you are apparently talking about is a private version of a packet injection bot, and how it helped you claim at least 4 Nidhoggs and 5 King Behemoths.

Ostensibly, the chat started because this n0thingowns guy wanted a copy of the private version, since he's the guy who (apparently, conjecture on my part) is hacking the current version of ffxiapp so it doesn't require registration to use. And that you were talking to iifuzz about that and trying to spin it as a "free trial period" of the software, which most likely would have stopped working with the next patch of FFXI since it was obviously a one-shot crack on a specific version.

So again, my question is, what is true and what is false?

I've already stated by business with iifuzz.. while I don't really like what he did with app for the community, i'm not going to turn down business or not talk to him.. because after getting to know him with the business he is a pretty respectable guy.. not what you'd expect from a bot creator.. I don't have to justify my friendships to anyone.. iifuzz will not disclose who does/does not bot, but if he reads this, I wish he would comment on poisoned using app or not. Even though the list being released should be proof enough.. unless you think we bought it AFTER the list we released and started botting with it..

After the list we released? What part did you play in releasing the list? I'm very curious about that.

I really don't mind that you know iifuzz. His business is, well, his business. And I see that you admitted to talking to him about the Mercury people that were on the list, in an effort to take away their bots from them. If you truly didn't bot at all, I can't imagine trying to explain that to a normal person. Which sounds more plausable:

1) Poisoned doesn't bot. Mercury is known to bot and I know the guy who writes ffxi-app. I even host his website and talk to him about injection methods. But we're poisoned so obviously we have more skill than any bot.

2) Poisoned bots. Mercury is known to bot and I know the guy who writes ffxi-app. I even host his website and talk to him about injection methods. But our bots will beat their bots, so no worries, let them spend their money on useless bots.

Go on, say it's option #1. It's not the sane choice but it's the obvious answer that you have for everything. And option #2, the part about "our bots will beat their bots" is directly confirmed by the chat log above.

I mean, if I were a linkshell leader and I said "Gentlemen, we're going up against bots" I wouldn't expect to get 5 KB's in a row and 4 Nidhoggs in a row. Not unless our bots were proven to be faster than theirs. Unless you can directly prove that a human response time and some staggering strategy (which probably translates to "Change your claim delays on your bots to be different") is always better than mercury's bots, then your linkshell bots. Or rather:

042 [18:52] sprynex: we dont bot on our mains
043 [18:52] sprynex: at all
044 [18:52] sprynex: we got like 11-13 mules who do it

Edit: nice pictures. Now we can see the exact definition of "Stagger your claim delays": Ranging from 900 to 2100 ms! Now that's a strategy!
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Ok ok. So let's get this straight. Mercury uses FFXIAPP for the cool maps. Sonix hosts FFXIAPP has access to all the files, but, he does not use it. However, some how, PSN has been beating Mercury to claims.

This is so clear, your only argument is pure denial. You readily accuse Mercury of botting, but fail to rationalize how PSN can beat mercury to claims (oh wait, staggering flashes LOL). I known you long enough to know the log is not altered, that is exactly how you type.

But like I said, this is not really anything new to anyone. We've known for some time that Merc, PSN, and a couple other LSes are cheating. We've known for even longer they welcome bought accounts and participate in RMT activities. But like I said, in the end, all you can do is cheat to accumulate, no one cares or respects you for it, and always in your mind you know its by cheats.

Our biggest hope now is that Square-Enix Special Task force can investigate this, trace the IPs via logs, and ban any participating members.

Now that we know undeniably these linkshells have been cheating, the next question is, to what other depths have they gone. How many accounts have they stolen? How much gil do they sell or buy?

1v1 Deck16?

** Taba can you show us the names on that screenshot that are blanked out ? ? * * * *
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No Tim, they are blanked out by Sonix. Not me.

And sure, we can ask Mauricio all we want, but the truth is you don't use FFXIAPP, you do however use the packet injection bot that YOU wrote after getting parts of the source from iifuzz.

But I guess it's nice sniffing packets and injecting code to claim monsters in a video game.

I can also upload the entire raw chatlog with Sonix if that is of any interest.

Also, the pastebin is from the raw chatlog. Not edited at all.

Edit:

Before Sonix goes nutcrack on how I cracked FFXIAPP.

Yes I did crack FFXIAPP, I have no denial about it. Why should people pay for hacks?

And, n0thingowns is my AIM.
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Timothay :Our biggest hope now is that Square-Enix Special Task force can investigate this, trace the IPs via logs, and ban any participating members.

That's what I said initially. I hope someone reports this to the SE Task Force. What we have here are exact dates and times of botting. And a link between the "Sonix" character and the IP address of 3 other bots. If all four of those characters are linked by the same owner or credit card, it is possibly enough circumstantial evidence to sink the Sonix character directly. Or at least the 3 other bots at that IP address.

Timothay :
** Taba can you show us the names on that screenshot that are blanked out ? ? * * * *

Yeah, I'm very interested in that vs. a list of Poisoned's current members. I don't have the correct fonts currently (on Linux at the moment) but if someone could match up the fonts we can find out whether or not the list of names there is an "example" picture from some other server or if it was a snapshot of the actual poisoned linkshell claim server. One is the truth and the other is a lie.
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Oh yea, no one is denying the validity of the chat log or the screenshot except Sonix. I known the guy for like 10 years, that is exactly how he talks plus I remember him bragging about writing code to steal accounts in that old Diablo2 game years ago, this is definatly his style. Like I said, its nothing we didn't already know, it is just 100% proof. No one respects poisoned except people in poison or people trying to get into poison. The members in it, either do not care about the cheating, refuse to believe the cheating, or do not know about the cheating.

I knew he wasn't stupid enough to use FFXIAPP either, I knew he had chopped it up to his own version when I saw that their names were not in the ffxiapp leaked database list. My question is, are the names hardcoded to actualy in game player names or are they a seperate user list?

Haha yea, let's ask the iffuzzy guy whom you host his business website for free, if you use the bot, I am sure we will get an honest answer from someone who runs a business based around cheating, LOL.
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