[Karpp]

I have tried to get these from that NM Diamong Daig, not luck in (double earth weather yet) anyways 30+ Defence sounds great, can't ignore it, thats worth campin?

[Kingmoogie]

I camped it for maybe 2 hours with NIN and WHM (me). I personally use them in my DEF build in uncap because 30 DEF on hands is ridiculous. In my opinion, i'd say yeah, definately worth camping, but I don't know if I just got lucky with having it pop in 2 hours.

[Karpp]

you were lucky lol I have camped it 4-5 hours few days, would have more, but I have life anyways I keep camping it, I shouln't have worries to beat it Nin/Dnc you can solo lot of shit, thx for response.

[Aeonknight]

They're a nice piece of equipment for sure. But don't put them on alone and think you're a PLD. You have to have a build dedicated to it. Jelly Ring, Tav Taco are basic examples (I can't list specific builds since they vary between mages and melee.)

[Karpp]

I realize that besides I just want those, Def+ item always helps even if u play DD.

[(Delequiox)]

They're worth it, just don't forget the -vs ice will make you more bindable, If you're going to use them stack up all the DEF you can get. Unyielding Ring/Phalanx Ring work amazing with protecting bangles. Those three items will make a noticable difference. Keep stacking the def though.

[Karpp]

OK thx for advice, anyways I got Bangles this morning NM was joke as Nin/Dnc, it only hitted me only once Guess I was bored and didn't count my shadows since start lol. that HP drain rocks/Dnc sub very good solo sub for nin I can confirm, but main job no thx

[Kutsurabi]

I can't believe dele didn't refer you to me D: but yeah, out of the people on fenrir ballista i'm probably the only (and probably best haha) defense stacker in fenrir ballista with my BLU/WAR... i use:

Demon Kilij (2 VIT)
Acheron Shield +1 (28 DEF)
Elite's Beret (28 D)
AF Body (44? D)
Prot Bangles (30)
Phalanx Rings (20)
Bibiki SS (4 VIT)
Ears - STR only, no defense ones yet
Princes Slops (40D)
Root Sabots (18? lol but 35 HP also)
NQ of Umbra (not defense but 6 DEF -5% damage taken)
Warwolf belt

and i stack defender with cocoon then tav tacos and have about 700-800 defense with just those, with protect 4 i think its 867 and with minne's i can get 999 easy ... not sure about these numbers i just know i have a butt load of defense lol... and all non-souleater weapon skills do LESS than 300 (i seldom ever see one more than that, never 400+)

i love the combo alot, i almost never die during a match unless i get lethe +1 or do something stupid

[Vijitt]

Kutsurabi :
or do something stupid

no wonder your always dead

[Kutsurabi]

haha yeah... what i mean is a go chasing someone then they keep running and i follow them through their team then i go cannonballing and kill the person... then i shortly after get enfeebled and die =/ but yeah im OMs i hardly ever die if i keep my buffs up