[Azynhito]

I have been combing through forums in English and Japanese on more information concerning this topic. I have found most of the information useful. However, I have one important question that no one has really touched on (unless someone has and I missed it).

Background: My 6 member static LS has just cleared floor 100 (we got to fight Hydra and was "Too Weak" imo) and Askar Zuchetto and Mage's Staff dropped. We were using my Runic Disc and it reset right after the HNM was defeated. I now have the Runic Key in my key items. We plan on redoing 1~100 in the next few weeks to get the gear from 20/40/60/80 (eventually farm 100 after we get a 2nd member to 95). So far we cleared floor 5 this Sunday. Looking to clear through 20 on Thursday.

My question is: Do I have to be the person initiating the start of the mission to ensure 100% drop of the gear on 20/40/60/80/100? What I really want to know is if another member uses their disc to initiate the mission and if I am just present, will the equip still drop 100%?

Hopefully someone has some info on this. As our LS progresses through to 100 for the second time, I'll keep this updated on any info I find.

[Angelusdemonus]

My question is: Do I have to be the person initiating the start of the mission to ensure 100% drop of the gear on 20/40/60/80/100? What I really want to know is if another member uses their disc to initiate the mission and if I am just present, will the equip still drop 100%?

Armor drops are never 100%. The whole "bonus" SE added about re-beating floor 100 is that Floor 100 the 2nd time up would be 100% drop on the head piece. But alternatively the disk holder has to be present for the bosses death for it to even activate the bonus.

My group has gone up the floors after clearing floor 100 the first time, and armor drops were definitely not 100%. We recently re-did floor 200 (2nd time to floor 100), using my friends disk. He warped out before we killed the NM, and a head piece did not drop.

So basically, head piece is the only piece that'll be 100%, but the disk holder must be present for the kill for it to be 100%.

[Azynhito]

Thank you Angelusdemonus for clearing this up.

I assumed from the August 28, 2007, update details, "In exchange for the loss of data after clearing Floor 100 during the Assault mission “Nyzul Isle Investigation”, the chance for obtaining the armor pieces has been increased to 100%." meant all floors where the equipment drops (20/40/60/80/100). In my haste, I did not see SE meant only on floor 100; only saw "armor pieces" and believed the sets (Askar/Denali/Goliard). :con

[Sylwyn]

Umm.. I thought the runic key just ensures the drop of the weapon of the the job of the initiator upon beating floor 100 not the head piece~ :dozingoff