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oh dear, someone's getting a little too agitated. since this is such a hard concept for you to grasp, let us review why you are, indeed, a moron.

1) Title of the paragraph. THF has one of the best, if not evasion in the game. Your title, and the way you present your argument as if THF evasion is complete and utter crap. The only way you're going to hit an evasion build thief is if:
a. Accuracy build
b. Somewhat intelligent BLU
c. Sushi

Given how A and C aren't used much if at all(in my server's case for example), you're stuck with B. Which leads me to the second idea.

2) In your first paragraph you state that physicals spells are not only affected by accuracy gear but by weapon based accuracy and blue magic; it ended with a question mark, signaling to me the first comment. Should I have just bolded the entire thing? You make it sound like you hit fucking 75 and it took testing for you to figure it out.

3) Should I be somewhat impressed that you have 6+ 75 jobs and you can beat people who are total and utter shit in Ballista? If you had been playing ballista like you claim you had you wouldn't have posted those videos and went "hay guyz look what a lv74 RNG can do LOLZ!" You claim this to be totally irrelevent to the FORUM AT HAND. THIS IS A FUCKING BALLISTA FORUM, ARE YOU THAT DENSE? You attacked me by implying that you've played longer and you have more experience than me, yet you pull something so idiotic as this? You can't be serious.

Now I could go on as to why you're a complete joke, but I think I'll leave it at this:
Aark :
Caesus :
it's amazing how some people hit 75.



edit: And before you keep saying I'm dodging your question, no, I don't give a rat's ass if someone called you a cheater hence why I didn't bother to bring it up. Waah waah QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ someone called me a cheater, do me a favor and don't post here again.
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oh dear, someone's getting a little too agitated. since this is such a hard concept for you to grasp, let us review why you are, indeed, a moron.

1) Title of the paragraph. THF has one of the best, if not evasion in the game. Your title, and the way you present your argument as if THF evasion is complete and utter crap. The only way you're going to hit an evasion build thief is if:
a. Accuracy build
b. Somewhat intelligent BLU
c. Sushi

Given how A and C aren't used much if at all(in my server's case for example), you're stuck with B. Which leads me to the second idea.

2) In your first paragraph you state that physicals spells are not only affected by accuracy gear but by weapon based accuracy and blue magic; it ended with a question mark, signaling to me the first comment. Should I have just bolded the entire thing? You make it sound like you hit fucking 75 and it took testing for you to figure it out.

3) Should I be somewhat impressed that you have 6+ 75 jobs and you can beat people who are total and utter shit in Ballista? If you had been playing ballista like you claim you had you wouldn't have posted those videos and went "hay guyz look what a lv74 RNG can do LOLZ!" You claim this to be totally irrelevent to the FORUM AT HAND. THIS IS A FUCKING BALLISTA FORUM, ARE YOU THAT DENSE? You attacked me by implying that you've played longer and you have more experience than me, yet you pull something so idiotic as this? You can't be serious.

Now I could go on as to why you're a complete joke, but I think I'll leave it at this:
Aark :
Caesus :
it's amazing how some people hit 75.



edit: And before you keep saying I'm dodging your question, no, I don't give a rat's ass if someone called you a cheater hence why I didn't bother to bring it up. Waah waah QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ someone called me a cheater, do me a favor and don't post here again.



Forgive me if Im wrong Caesus but isnt the title THF evasion fails? And yet it does indeed fail against BLU physical spells, which is not really an opinion, it's fact? He never once mentioned anything about THF failing against any other job or sustained to this being a topic about melee acc, and no offense but you just sound like a whiny little bitch who got butt hurt over the title "Thf Evasion Fails", so then you started scanning through his post for spelling errors or something to bash em about cuz it will make you feel better rolf!!. Ya know what Im talkin about? haha

Thats probably because you are a THF in ballista lol All your comments were brief unclear indefenite and sounds like you cant read, he already told ya like 8 times what he meant and what you misunderstood but ya still bitchin! lol

I just wanna get something str8t, first you bash him because he made a question to see if he was right about BLU magic skill also a factor, so what, cant a guy ask a question?! hehe really, even if he is lvl 75 he cant ask just to be sure, you sure didnt answer his question you just became part of the problem not the solution. Im sorry but I have to agree, his post was about his incident with that THF not about his RNG videos which you came out bashing just because you didnt like em, that has nothing to do with this topic, and in addition to that it leaves me to believe he may be right about him playing longer and having more experience than you, cuz youre the only one dodging questions, what jobs do you play in ballista? probably lolthf onry! (/@@)/
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I don't wake up one day and decide to come on KI to flame people. I rarely post here as it is.

That being said, let it be known for the record that I will never take THF past 37, I can't stand the job as it is. sad.gif

Let it also be known that(yes you heard it here first, I was *coughachwheezewrongcoughhackwheeze* and I was a tad too presumptuous in my conclusions about THF evasion regarding a blue mage's physical spells.

HOWEVER, that does not deviate from my first post; from the way he implies, he goes all the way to 75 and doesn't know this basic concept?

Also, please point out where I insult him concerning his grammar or spelling in any way, shape, or form. If you're going to make claims like that, back it up. I

And yes, I'm still standing by the fact that he is a complete joke and maybe when he posts something of quality maybe he'll be taken seriously.

edit: I just read your last paragraph. Point out where, anywhere on this forum that someone where someone won't call someone else out if they make a stupid comment or a "duh how the hell did you not know this?" question, which is exactly what I did; then, go see if anyone starts bitching that it's not revelent to the topic. Tell me how he implies that he has more experience than me because he supposedly has been playing longer than me yet he posts garbage videos and how that isn't revelent at all. You're starting to sound just as retarded as he is, lol! /@@/!
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HOWEVER, that does not deviate from my first post; from the way he implies, he goes all the way to 75 and doesn't know this basic concept?


I think he did know that concept he was just making into a question implying sarcastically that, that THF that called em a cheater for it but that THF should have known it too, he said it like a couple of times something like "its common knowledge so why would it be cheating?" And he spent the last 3 posts trying to make you read that lol but you didnt, which in the end it made you sound like a whiny little girl trying to flame him about his other videos, all in all I think what happened is that you got offended by the title of this post and probably the title of his RNG video post too, maybe you dont like arrogance and you took it to the next level as to actually look for something to argue about. But advice for the future, if you dont like some ones video you should reply to that post and make a compelling arguement as to why the quality of play was missing and how it could have been better, because correct me if Im wrong again but he did beat DRK as lvl 74 RNG and it was various fights in that video not just his, you know instead of just posting "lol fuc*ing wow. hee hee I cant believe he hit lvl 75, zomg what a dumb question?! oh by the way I didnt like your videos from like a month ago hee hee!!" Ya know what I mean?

Maybe the title got you offended who knows but unless you can prove to make much better quality videos than his which in the end it's a matter of opinion, than you can't really bash some one with just a "I cant believe he hit lvl 75". After all I see nothing that you have provided to this forum community of yourself.

I'm sorry I did exageratte on my last post about your comments too but I was just trying to make a point.
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Caesus :
I don't wake up one day and decide to come on KI to flame people. I rarely post here as it is.

That being said, let it be known for the record that I will never take THF past 37, I can't stand the job as it is. sad.gif

Let it also be known that(yes you heard it here first, I was *coughachwheezewrongcoughhackwheeze* and I was a tad too presumptuous in my conclusions about THF evasion regarding a blue mage's physical spells.

HOWEVER, that does not deviate from my first post; from the way he implies, he goes all the way to 75 and doesn't know this basic concept?


Maybe I should have made the title THF Evasion vs Physical Spells so there wouldnt be any confusion. I have always know BLU spells got more acc and what they are based on, I was the first BLU on siren to play 60 amd uncap, and no I'm not being arrogant Caesus, I was lol, and now Im the most gimped BLU on siren to play ballista, so why am I telling you that I was the first BLU to actively play ballista? I'm not trying to show off, I'm trying to let you know that I did know what you claim I didnt know, I've been trying to explain that to you for the last freakin 8 times, I never said I thought BLU spells were only based on melee acc, get it through your thick skull. I feel like every time I reply to you I am repeating myself in a different tune, everyone knows what BLU can do which is why I dont understand why a THF that has played as long as I have can be so dumb, and then you come along thinking youre pretty clever yourself....ugh and I just replied to you again, I should have just ignored you. Oh well ;_;

By the way whats wrong with my videos ;_; yah I did just lvl RNG so I was excited to see what it was capable of, and I made a video of it.. AAAAAAANNNNDDD? Just because I did that all of a sudden Im a bad player? That defines the quality of my game cause I beat a DRK as lvl 74 RNG? Maybe I did look arrogant showing off my RNG underlevel beating various other people, but thats all the reason you have to mark me as a bad player? Ive yet to see any of yours. I think you do wake up everyday to flame people on KI there is even another post of yours complaining about some one's video this very same day.... You're entitled to your opinion but it sure sounds like youre being really childish by attacking me without even talking reason with me, its the only reason I see for you to mention my videos >.>
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Caesus :
oh dear, someone's getting a little too agitated. since this is such a hard concept for you to grasp, let us review why you are, indeed, a moron.

1) Title of the paragraph. THF has one of the best, if not evasion in the game. Your title, and the way you present your argument as if THF evasion is complete and utter crap. The only way you're going to hit an evasion build thief is if:
a. Accuracy build
b. Somewhat intelligent BLU
c. Sushi

Given how A and C aren't used much if at all(in my server's case for example), you're stuck with B. Which leads me to the second idea.

2) In your first paragraph you state that physicals spells are not only affected by accuracy gear but by weapon based accuracy and blue magic; it ended with a question mark, signaling to me the first comment. Should I have just bolded the entire thing? You make it sound like you hit fucking 75 and it took testing for you to figure it out.

3) Should I be somewhat impressed that you have 6+ 75 jobs and you can beat people who are total and utter shit in Ballista? If you had been playing ballista like you claim you had you wouldn't have posted those videos and went "hay guyz look what a lv74 RNG can do LOLZ!" You claim this to be totally irrelevent to the FORUM AT HAND. THIS IS A FUCKING BALLISTA FORUM, ARE YOU THAT DENSE? You attacked me by implying that you've played longer and you have more experience than me, yet you pull something so idiotic as this? You can't be serious.

Now I could go on as to why you're a complete joke, but I think I'll leave it at this:
Aark :
Caesus :
it's amazing how some people hit 75.



edit: And before you keep saying I'm dodging your question, no, I don't give a rat's ass if someone called you a cheater hence why I didn't bother to bring it up. Waah waah QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ someone called me a cheater, do me a favor and don't post here again.



Forgive me if Im wrong Caesus but isnt the title THF evasion fails? And yet it does indeed fail against BLU physical spells, which is not really an opinion, it's fact? He never once mentioned anything about THF failing against any other job or sustained to this being a topic about melee acc, and no offense but you just sound like a whiny little bitch who got butt hurt over the title "Thf Evasion Fails", so then you started scanning through his post for spelling errors or something to bash em about cuz it will make you feel better rolf!!. Ya know what Im talkin about? haha

Thats probably because you are a THF in ballista lol All your comments were brief unclear indefenite and sounds like you cant read, he already told ya like 8 times what he meant and what you misunderstood but ya still bitchin! lol

I just wanna get something str8t, first you bash him because he made a question to see if he was right about BLU magic skill also a factor, so what, cant a guy ask a question?! hehe really, even if he is lvl 75 he cant ask just to be sure, you sure didnt answer his question you just became part of the problem not the solution. Im sorry but I have to agree, his post was about his incident with that THF not about his RNG videos which you came out bashing just because you didnt like em, that has nothing to do with this topic, and in addition to that it leaves me to believe he may be right about him playing longer and having more experience than you, cuz youre the only one dodging questions, what jobs do you play in ballista? probably lolthf onry! (/@@)/



like i said before this has nothing to do with a THF's eva, this thread should be called "Stupid THF bitching cause his eva fails against my BLU" another thing, how can you tell he has full eva merits, eva caped and just cause someone wears a SH and ohat dont mean full eva...

but screw this arguement its pointless, like ive said in another post, only smart people who play and think diffrently can kill (x) jobs. well something like that hehe
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i will agree with one thing on this thread
those rng videos u posted where pathetic and i hope u play better on ur other jobs lol
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TheGriever :

I hate to agree with you, it even makes me sad to admit that for every one good NA player, there are 10 good JP players, the rest THINK they are good but they end up being these hot headed egotistical fools that brag about how long ago they started playing and how many lvl 75 jobs they have


TheGriever :

Come on man, just let it go, I wouldnt be surprised if you never played BLU in your life. And I have 6 lvl 75 jobs and probably played ballista longer than you have tongue.gif


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TheGriever :

I hate to agree with you, it even makes me sad to admit that for every one good NA player, there are 10 good JP players, the rest THINK they are good but they end up being these hot headed egotistical fools that brag about how long ago they started playing and how many lvl 75 jobs they have


TheGriever :

Come on man, just let it go, I wouldnt be surprised if you never played BLU in your life. And I have 6 lvl 75 jobs and probably played ballista longer than you have tongue.gif


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I was talking about a guy named Ache**** on my server who says he levels jobs just for ballista and has like 8 or 9, I even typed that thing on the same day, except I dont really level jobs for ballista >.> However I really dont think Im good, I never once said that I even thought about what I was saying to Caesus while I said, except I was pretty confident I was right, as opposed to those who do and claim they never lost like the rest of that post said, especially when a person who has beaten them is standing in the same area while they make those claims, thats the kind of person I was reffering to. So the difference between the guy I was talking about and the guy I was talking to is that I dont claim I am invincible, or that I am that good, or that I never lost and I have a lot more jobs than everyone else, Im just pretty confident that person doesnt play much of anything else but likes to dip his spoon in the matter.

As a matter of fact I fail as a BLU for not being able to kill certain people I know >_< And yes its sad most of the NAs in siren suck compared to the JP, at least thats what Ive noticed. Isnt the same in your server? I heard fenrir its almost the same thing except there are a lot more NA than JP.

A lot of people seem to disagree with PLD beng able to donminate a BLU, some one else said RDM BLM can only beat BLU, but I think BLM BLU PLD SAM DRK/RDM can all beat a BLU.
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There needs to be a sticky on this forum concering, "How to defeat a Blue Mage" so people will fucking quit QQing.
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There needs to be a sticky on this forum concering, "How to defeat a Blue Mage" so people will fucking quit QQing.


Ok I'll do one, I know a few BLus and a few other job people. I have beaten a PLD/RDM but its like 3 out of 10 fights, and the one I cant beat wears Ares armor and homam, which Im not saying gear matters the most but that slightly little luck and advantage I had over the other players, is a lot less.

My predictions from experience are this: SAM vs BLU, BLU has the upper hand, SAM must have soboro for best results assuming BLU is subbing /NIN. But all it takes is one gekko for it to change the outcome in the first minute of the fight, physical spell avoid distance and a good sub all matter, maybe /NIN or /RDM for SAM?

DRK/RDM, this ones interesting, Silence can land nicely if merited or equipped, Weapon Bash stun through utsusemi shadows changes the whole fight, I never lost in this fight but then again Ive only tried 1 fight where silence failed, the matches I watched made the BLU work much harder for his meal.

PLD/RDm.....Enhancing magic, enough said.

BLM, this ones dangerous, both sides one mistake and its all over, I like regular ballistas where the BLM binds me and starts casting Sleepga but I know their Blink is down so all it takes is a CA Cannonball to rip through Stoneskin and STILL interrupet their spell casting, Exuviation erases bind and it makes things really fun. Temporal Shift probably needed.

RDM....wtf why am I predicting this, everone knows what happens, but if theres a chance for the BLU to stun and sleep the RDM, then silence and dispel phalanx, then its all good, but the RDM has the upper hand no matter what.
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Epic thread needs moar discussion.
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BLU can take rdm easy put shadows up wait for them come cast diaga on you right as they run in range hit radiant breath by time they finish wiping shadows and get ready cast silence breath will alrdy have landed then you go rape em
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Thanks for the necro bump... btw your strategy fails. You either have never ballista'd or aren't even a BLU. Diaga's range is MUCH larger than Radiant Breath. He doesn't have to come to you, you have to go to him. On TOP of that, Radiant Breath's timer is slow enough for a RDM w/ decent gear to pop Diaga and silence before you finish. And that's if they aren't subbing /BLM...

Get some experience fighting a real RDM as a BLU then come talk.
And no, I'm not sucking RDM's you know what... I enjoy slaughtering them as well. But you gotta know how to do it.
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um i have blu 75 and fought plenty rdms it works >.>...so gtfo
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any decent rdm wont run in to hit you after wiping shadows, theyll silence you before anything else...
Get some experience fighting a real RDM as a BLU then come talk.

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Sniper202 :
any decent rdm wont run in to hit you after wiping shadows, theyll silence you before anything else...

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Sanjaro :
BLU can take rdm easy put shadows up wait for them come cast diaga on you right as they run in range hit radiant breath by time they finish wiping shadows and get ready cast silence breath will alrdy have landed then you go rape em



I dont think he is serious, he just wants your attention. Cause for some one to believe that, must be retarded. Ever heard of sleepga + fast cast? Only way Ive beaten RDM is if I can wipe their blink with a stun spell that will give me a chance to cast pinecone bomb or sheep song. Temporal Shift up close, Frypan to continue stun chain, and then sleep em. But that never happens the way you want it, not against a smart player. This would work maervelous against PLD/RDM if they didnt have Fealty. Fealty and shield mastery is broken. It blocks Disseverment poison 100% of the time, and Headbutt stun effect about 80% of the time. And people complain BLU is overpowered >.>
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