[Barachiel]

I operate on sarcasm.

Although I do believe that Obama is the least of all evils in this race.

Grand Theft Auto

It's not connected to the game, but does that really matter?

And yes, they have the right idea here. That kid needs help now.

[Glorfindal]

Barachiel :
I operate on sarcasm.

Although I do believe that Obama is the least of all evils in this race.

Heh, leave it to me to miss the sarcasm. Well, whether you side with Obama or McCain, I think both can agree these are better choices than Hitlary.

But alas, possible thread derailment status: CONTAINED.



In other news, I just shot this guy's head off in GTA4, and promptly went outside to reinact it. Did the game make me do this? Opinion?

Just keeding.....I don't even own GTA4 yet. >.>

[Cruzandercerberus]

How can you vote for Barrack HUSSEIN Obama, he and fellow lawyer Jack Thompson, who must be closely associated idologically since they share the same profession are on a islamic jihad to destroy fun. First it's GTA, then they're gonna end the war, next thing you know fuckers will be after my guns. The only solution is to screw all this lesser evil crap and vote for the greatest evil, that's why I'm writing in a vote for Thanos of Titan. He promises to destroy half the universe, solving global warming and urban sprawl in one fell swoop. I mean they don't come any more experienced than former supreme beings.

[Keylime]

Thanos of Titan has got my vote.

[Tsumakirij]

D: Apparently I'm not the most evil bastard on Titan. Time to go kick some puppies.

[Georgs]

Wait...people still play GTA?

[Boss Rockius]

Georgs :
Wait...people still play GTA?

This.. is a FFXI board.. o_o;

[Tsumakirij]

This is a subsection of a FFXI board dedicated to discussing real world events that cause us all to feel just a little less proud to be human. Jack Thompson is pretty high on that list.

[1337NancYBoY]

Tsumakirij :
This is a subsection of a FFXI board dedicated to discussing real world events that cause us all to feel just a little less proud to be human. Jack Thompson is pretty high on that list.

[purple]Win.

[Kenja]

I stopped watching after "Killing eachother is not a natural human instinct"

[Barachiel]

YOU FOOLS!!!

Vote for HYPNOTOAD!

[Zareth]

Orz... gg parents. Unless I heard that wrong he said he's "getting a weekend without video games."

If I was that grandma, i'd beat the hell out of that kid.

Then i'd beat the parents, too, for letting him go so lightly. Then slap myself for raising my kid to be such a shitty mother/father.

[Tsuko]

He said he should only go a weekend without video games, the old lady is probably going to beat his ass.

[Dazd]

Won-ton :

If you call a game a murder simulator you're a fucking idiot, using a contorler and a REAL gun are 100% total different things.

Yeah...that's what 'simulator' means, and they have a point there. Rockstar spent $100 million to make this the most realistic game ever, and it's only going to get better from here. In a few years games are going to be like you're controlling a live action movie. Will you be so quick to dismiss it then, just because you push a button rather than pull a trigger to blow someone's brains out? Would you be outraged if instead of a controller, you used a light gun?

The real argument is: is this causing people to become more violent through desensitization, or is this a harmless way for people to work out their natural aggression and a killer instinct honed by evolution? How does someone know that footage of a helicopter crashing into a town square is a horrible, tragic event, but controlling a helicopter in a flight simulator and killing 150 sims is the height of hilarity? The answer is that it depends on the intelligence and experience of the person playing to differentiate the two. Consider the intelligence of the average adult and you have a pretty grim outlook. Make that an average kid; now are you starting to see the problem?

Yeah the game is M, but does anyone really card kids when they're buying these? Ultimately, of course, it's the parents' responsibility to monitor their kids. The problem is, the kids who would be most influenced by this violence & depravity are those raised by parents who are oblivious to what their kids are doing anyway.

The only thing to do, really, is to have mandatory ovum harvesting followed by sterilization upon puberty, and only allow those deemed acceptable to procreate. Bonus: that would solve all kinds of other problems we have as well. But then you have everyone arguing about what's "acceptable", and human rights this and playing god that, and it's all a giant pain in the dick, so let's just launch the missiles & get this over with, what do you say?

I'm not sure if they do it to everyone or not or if it was just the person who got the game for me but I actually did get carded when I bought this and I'm 25 >.>.

[Tsuko]

That's normal in America, I get carded for everything. I've even had some jackasses mark me to be followed/watched when going to movies, because there's always a chance I paid an adult to buy my tickets. I'm 18.

[Corrderio]

Dazd :

Won-ton :

If you call a game a murder simulator you're a fucking idiot, using a contorler and a REAL gun are 100% total different things.

Yeah...that's what 'simulator' means, and they have a point there. Rockstar spent $100 million to make this the most realistic game ever, and it's only going to get better from here. In a few years games are going to be like you're controlling a live action movie. Will you be so quick to dismiss it then, just because you push a button rather than pull a trigger to blow someone's brains out? Would you be outraged if instead of a controller, you used a light gun?

The real argument is: is this causing people to become more violent through desensitization, or is this a harmless way for people to work out their natural aggression and a killer instinct honed by evolution? How does someone know that footage of a helicopter crashing into a town square is a horrible, tragic event, but controlling a helicopter in a flight simulator and killing 150 sims is the height of hilarity? The answer is that it depends on the intelligence and experience of the person playing to differentiate the two. Consider the intelligence of the average adult and you have a pretty grim outlook. Make that an average kid; now are you starting to see the problem?

Yeah the game is M, but does anyone really card kids when they're buying these? Ultimately, of course, it's the parents' responsibility to monitor their kids. The problem is, the kids who would be most influenced by this violence & depravity are those raised by parents who are oblivious to what their kids are doing anyway.

The only thing to do, really, is to have mandatory ovum harvesting followed by sterilization upon puberty, and only allow those deemed acceptable to procreate. Bonus: that would solve all kinds of other problems we have as well. But then you have everyone arguing about what's "acceptable", and human rights this and playing god that, and it's all a giant pain in the dick, so let's just launch the missiles & get this over with, what do you say?

I'm not sure if they do it to everyone or not or if it was just the person who got the game for me but I actually did get carded when I bought this and I'm 25 >.>.

Well, when I bougt Persona 3 FES last week (Which is rated M) they didn't card me...

[Dazd]

Yeah I was kind of surprised first time I've ever been carded buying a video game and it was something that was supposed to have been started what like 15 yrs ago or some shit?

[Orson]

Won-ton :

If you call a game a murder simulator you're a fucking idiot, using a contorler and a REAL gun are 100% total different things.

Yeah...that's what 'simulator' means, and they have a point there. Rockstar spent $100 million to make this the most realistic game ever, and it's only going to get better from here. In a few years games are going to be like you're controlling a live action movie. Will you be so quick to dismiss it then, just because you push a button rather than pull a trigger to blow someone's brains out? Would you be outraged if instead of a controller, you used a light gun?

The real argument is: is this causing people to become more violent through desensitization, or is this a harmless way for people to work out their natural aggression and a killer instinct honed by evolution? How does someone know that footage of a helicopter crashing into a town square is a horrible, tragic event, but controlling a helicopter in a flight simulator and killing 150 sims is the height of hilarity? The answer is that it depends on the intelligence and experience of the person playing to differentiate the two. Consider the intelligence of the average adult and you have a pretty grim outlook. Make that an average kid; now are you starting to see the problem?

Yeah the game is M, but does anyone really card kids when they're buying these? Ultimately, of course, it's the parents' responsibility to monitor their kids. The problem is, the kids who would be most influenced by this violence & depravity are those raised by parents who are oblivious to what their kids are doing anyway.

The only thing to do, really, is to have mandatory ovum harvesting followed by sterilization upon puberty, and only allow those deemed acceptable to procreate. Bonus: that would solve all kinds of other problems we have as well. But then you have everyone arguing about what's "acceptable", and human rights this and playing god that, and it's all a giant pain in the dick, so let's just launch the missiles & get this over with, what do you say?

That's the biggest fallacy though. They've done many studies of people who have been "desensitized" through video games, TV, and even real life events. There is no evidence to correlate violent behavior and aggression with desensitization. Jack and his friends tend to use the chicken before the egg theory saying that the 0.00001 percentile (just pulling number outta my ass I have no clue how many kids killed people over shit like GTA) the video game pushed the person over the edge, yet I wonder how often that this person may have been looking for an excuse or had psychological problems to begin with.

I'm sure that road rage probably causes more deaths then "video game related fatalities" yet I don't see people lining up around the block to try to ban cars. Hell obviously working in a post office makes you murder people lets just get rid off the mail system altogether. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure in terrorist brain washing camps they don't sit down suicide bombers playing GTA for days.

The biggest fucking irony of all is that CNN show and talk about graphic REAL violence, sex, and even the same GTA4 scenes that they're bitching about. Like fuck what a bunch of hypocrites obviously CNN should be censored too so that poor parents won't have to worry about their precious children hearing about a 12 yr old girl's cherry pie been blow across the back wall of seedy bathroom after the pedo was done with her. Better yet the government should just buy big cardboard boxes for everyone's children so that all parents can have the choice to keep their kid safe.

We should be asking this guy for pointers he probably kept his kids from playing these damaging video games.

[Barachiel]

Orson :

Won-ton :

If you call a game a murder simulator you're a fucking idiot, using a contorler and a REAL gun are 100% total different things.

Yeah...that's what 'simulator' means, and they have a point there. Rockstar spent $100 million to make this the most realistic game ever, and it's only going to get better from here. In a few years games are going to be like you're controlling a live action movie. Will you be so quick to dismiss it then, just because you push a button rather than pull a trigger to blow someone's brains out? Would you be outraged if instead of a controller, you used a light gun?

The real argument is: is this causing people to become more violent through desensitization, or is this a harmless way for people to work out their natural aggression and a killer instinct honed by evolution? How does someone know that footage of a helicopter crashing into a town square is a horrible, tragic event, but controlling a helicopter in a flight simulator and killing 150 sims is the height of hilarity? The answer is that it depends on the intelligence and experience of the person playing to differentiate the two. Consider the intelligence of the average adult and you have a pretty grim outlook. Make that an average kid; now are you starting to see the problem?

Yeah the game is M, but does anyone really card kids when they're buying these? Ultimately, of course, it's the parents' responsibility to monitor their kids. The problem is, the kids who would be most influenced by this violence & depravity are those raised by parents who are oblivious to what their kids are doing anyway.

The only thing to do, really, is to have mandatory ovum harvesting followed by sterilization upon puberty, and only allow those deemed acceptable to procreate. Bonus: that would solve all kinds of other problems we have as well. But then you have everyone arguing about what's "acceptable", and human rights this and playing god that, and it's all a giant pain in the dick, so let's just launch the missiles & get this over with, what do you say?

That's the biggest fallacy though. They've done many studies of people who have been "desensitized" through video games, TV, and even real life events. There is no evidence to correlate violent behavior and aggression with desensitization. Jack and his friends tend to use the chicken before the egg theory saying that the 0.00001 percentile (just pulling number outta my ass I have no clue how many kids killed people over shit like GTA) the video game pushed the person over the edge, yet I wonder how often that this person may have been looking for an excuse or had psychological problems to begin with.

I'm sure that road rage probably causes more deaths then "video game related fatalities" yet I don't see people lining up around the block to try to ban cars. Hell obviously working in a post office makes you murder people lets just get rid off the mail system altogether. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure in terrorist brain washing camps they don't sit down suicide bombers playing GTA for days.

The biggest fucking irony of all is that CNN show and talk about graphic REAL violence, sex, and even the same GTA4 scenes that they're bitching about. Like fuck what a bunch of hypocrites obviously CNN should be censored too so that poor parents won't have to worry about their precious children hearing about a 12 yr old girl's cherry pie been blow across the back wall of seedy bathroom after the pedo was done with her. Better yet the government should just buy big cardboard boxes for everyone's children so that all parents can have the choice to keep their kid safe.

We should be asking this guy for pointers he probably kept his kids from playing these damaging video games.

I am aroused now.

Seriously though, the entire anti-video game argument is at it's core hypocritical unless those same people also fight the media on the same grounds that the violent stories, and the shows that actually portray real life events in a dramatized and already censored form influence the children to commit similar acts.

[Static]

We should try and get Jack Thompson and his possie to work on global population before trying to "save" lives. It is absolutly amazing how many people would rather support this kind of crap to save maybe a few hundred people, or try to ban something that is slightly offensive to them when taken out of context rather than doing/supporting something that would save us in the long run or just plain actually matters.

Someone needs to hurry up and cast meteor or drop a fucking nuke or something.