[KyeLeviathan]

What trickery!

[Drucifer]

Behold the power of the taru!!!!

[Varizen]

ElecMournbringer :
Can I ask a question Vari and you can answer in private? I am just curious why some people "never really liked Elec," I mean I can name some on a list as to why I understand they don't, but it appears as if most are going on hearsay. So I am curious, have I ever done something to you that I don't remember?

2 years ago you were in GardenOfDeadZen and my ls had claim on Zip, and in the scramble to out claim you we got our NIN killed and we ended up trying to take it down with 2 BLMS, a WHM, and a RNG, and I was the only tank as a 73 WAR. We got it to 50% and wiped, and then you pissed me off by telling us how stupid we were trying to attempt something like that with a WAR tank. I have an unrivaled memory of events. I never forget why I'm pissed at someone.

[ElecMournbringer]

Well then I apologize for that, that was pretty douche-baggish of me, if I recall I think Minniedomz or Choto, one of them claimed you stole it from us, so I was pretty pissed. However, back then I only had Paladin 75 and was pretty naive to what could be done outside the box.

[Drucifer]

ElecMournbringer :
Minniedomz or Choto

The moral pillars upon which leviathan was founded?

[ElecMournbringer]

Yes, they are clowns, and that linkshell showed me that.

[Varizen]

Then all is forgiven.

[Jontale]

I honestly hate dynamis and only frequent it when needed. Your persistance made this a needed event for me. The following is me defending myself, not attacking others with ignorant claims.

You state I was 45 minutes late to a run. I presume you are speaking of last Saturday's Dynamis-Beaucedine (May 24, 2008). However, I made note of the time I entered the dynamis realm as I am aware I was late and also aware of the two rules imposed in relation to this, stating
"3 Points are awarded to people who show up for Dynamis, and stay for at least 1hr run."

"NO points will be awarded if you arrive later than 1hr of the end of the run."

The times I have for my character being present in the realm are 8:24 for entering, and 9:37 for exit upon defeat of Angra Mainyu. This is a space of 73 minutes. Elec's roughly estimated time span of 45 minutes is incorrect.


I lotted DRK AF2 feet for the sole reason of said item being 'free-lot 70+'. They aren't good for much of anything unless you have an efeebling build on DRK. I was under the impression this ment no points would be expended. However I was shortly pointed to the ls rules by a co-leader. The rule pertaining to this situation states "-If someone passes a main or secondary lot AF, they can not lot it for free lot. If they do and win lot that it will count as your main/secon lot." Paladin is my first lot, and Dark Knight is my secondary lot. This allows for an unknowing person, such as myself, to lot an item that of which they did not want to spend points and win the lot. However, the rule does not state penalties. Since the lot was prevented by a leader, no penalties can be implemented.


After a period of time, after being told by a co-leader points would be subtracted from my count for the lotting of the Abyss Sollerets, I came to the decision of quitting the linkshell, for I am a whiny bitch who likes to be first. Nearing the end of the run, I took to lotting the horrible piece of PLD AF2 with the knowledge of my accumulated points vanishing after this run. This piece cost me a single point as decided by the leaders post-run on the basis of my not wanting the piece if I had not had plans of leaving. This was not them doing me a favor on through favoritism. I am not regarded by the leaders in any position more than you are.


I know not your motive behind posting this. A reason to vent? I'm sure no one cares about this, it's not even an interesting topic.

I'm sorry that you see the events that have taken place unfair. To voice my opinion, the only thing I see unfair in this situation is you only being in dynamis on Tuesdays, yet receiving full points.

I wish you luck with whatever path you take. Also, with as much dedication and effort you had put towards Valor Surcoat, I'm sure you'll get it soon.

[ElecMournbringer]

After a period of time, after being told by a co-leader points would be subtracted from my count for the lotting of the Abyss Sollerets, I came to the decision of quitting the linkshell, for I am a whiny bitch who likes to be first. Nearing the end of the run, I took to lotting the horrible piece of PLD AF2 with the knowledge of my accumulated points vanishing after this run. This piece cost me a single point as decided by the leaders post-run on the basis of my not wanting the piece if I had not had plans of leaving. This was not them doing me a favor on through favoritism. I am not regarded by the leaders in any position more than you are.

Thank you for justifying what I said.

Lemme summarize what you just said:

- I whined about quitting the linkshell because I was not getting my way.
- The rules were bent to charge me only one point to placate me into not quitting.

It was Hellich who started having Alexika show as her RDM or BLM because he wants those jobs more then anything. Alexika was not even going to join this linkshell and just play Elec, losing Elec's EXP, meaning credit is for Elec. Hellich wanted something more out of it and got 75 BLM 75 RDM 72 WHM to use at his disposal as his repayment for this favor he was supposedly doing. So you got a problem with it bring it to Hellich, but you won't because you got your way, displaying the absolute immaturity of a 16 year old brat.

Your persistance made this a needed event for me.

So you are admitting that you only started showing consistently because if you did not you would lose your standing. This is the type of member Hellich chose to reward. GG.

You state I was 45 minutes late to a run. I presume you are speaking of last Saturday's Dynamis-Beaucedine ( May 24, 2008 )

No, I said you showed up for only the last 45 minutes. To which I have many people who will refute your claim to only being 45 minutes late.

The following is me defending my behavior and not dealing with the consequences of my decisions.

Fixed.

I lotted DRK AF2 feet for the sole reason of said item being 'free-lot 70+'. They aren't good for much of anything unless you have an efeebling build on DRK. I was under the impression this ment no points would be expended. However I was shortly pointed to the ls rules by a co-leader. The rule pertaining to this situation states "-If someone passes a main or secondary lot AF, they can not lot it for free lot. If they do and win lot that it will count as your main/secon lot." Paladin is my first lot, and Dark Knight is my secondary lot. This allows for an unknowing person, such as myself, to lot an item that of which they did not want to spend points and win the lot. However, the rule does not state penalties. Since the lot was prevented by a leader, no penalties can be implemented.

I am not sure this is even a comprehensible thought. However, if you are trying to claim you did not know of the rules, that's BS, because you passed on Valor Leggings the same day I did and then didn't attempt to lot them on the Free Lot, so you were aware of the rules, you tried to pull a fast one.

Good luck to you sir, the Surcoat will not change the opinions of your Paladin that have been said behind your back by some of your "friends."

[firefeng]

Right, still don't care about in-game dramarama. However:

but you won't because you got your way, displaying the absolute immaturity of a 16 year old brat.

Good luck to you sir, the Surcoat will not change the opinions of your Paladin that have been said behind your back by some of your "friends."

One of the first things I learned when I 'grew up', and I use that term very loosely, is that people never really mature as they get older. I've met 40-year-old men that had all the maturity of a prepubescent cheerleader playing with a My First Snide Classism set; meanwhile, the ability of an 8-year-old to see straight through bullshit to the heart of an issue never really ceases to shock me, especially when the adults around them have failed and become confounded by their own unnecessarily compounding sense of self-worth at merely accruing more age.

Lashing out at Jontale to try appease your own sense of trivial 'justice' corrodes your valid arguments, and demeans your sense of character, with which we as the random internet public have as the only means to judge your statements considering many of them are circumstantial at best, and hearsay at worst. More revolting: You're lashing out at Jontale's character for a perceived slight against your character, when the metaphorical prize hog you're fighting over presents only moderate superiority over similar, much easier-obtained items.

I don't give a fuck about in-game drama. It's like a bunch of adult children fighting over toys. You, however, need to grow the fuck up and start prioritizing what's most important in dealing with other human beings. Jontale may very well be a 16-year-old brat--my interactions with him suggest he may have a bit of maturing yet left to do, as we all did at that age and like I still probably need a bit of. Beyond that, he's shown nothing but an honorable, well-reasoning face to me.

You, however...you're old enough to know better, old man.

[Jontale]

If you wouldn't mind, could you give the names of these persons who you claim to know I was only there for 45 minutes? If you are unable to, I will again deem your statement false.

Your repeating what I have already said is not needed. Yes, I have admitted the only reason I'm doing dynamis is for the item. What are you doing it for? Do you want to be honored for your perfect attendance or seen as a truely valorous figure for being there on time?

I'm sorry for you if the only way you can make a rebuttal is to create false accusations.
I await more of these accusations to come.

Again I'll wish you good luck with your choices.

[firefeng]

Joon, this topic is really starting to grate on my nerves, most especially when I extrapolate some people's online behavior into their real world actions...NO I DO NOT GET DEPRESSED WHEN I THINK ABOUT HOW THESE VOTERS MAY DESTROY MY COUNTRY. So instead I think I'ma try to meet with some FBI folk, because they're cool and have sunglasses and guns, but I'm gonna need your help.

So, I choose you (PIKACHUUUU!) as my illicit underage sex-slave. I'll bring the black dildos if your bring the Dateline cameras?

[ElecMournbringer]

Bloodpool, Alexika, Eolo, Drewssmom, Lovedreamer

Cause they serve a purpose to lie to me about it. I always assume you to be there so when I call home and get told congratulations Jontale only showed for the last 45 minutes, you are going to be point lead, what purpose would these people have in getting my hopes up to such extent.'

Firefeng, your comments really don't warrant a response but maturity is a measure of how you act in social situations to the nature of the event. Therefore in a social video game your interactions are judged on the same level of maturity as any other. Furtermore my comments prior were not insulting to Jontale and the acknowledge of this being an issue more with Hellich is very prevalent, to that point what is Jontale defending himself from? He just happens to be the opposite party in the item lotting, not the person whom the blame is being place on for enabling the situation.

The fact that he felt the need to respond hows he feels some culpability. It would suit you well to consider that a perceived slight is a slight, but to that point, you would take well to heed your own words in dealing with human beings.

[Jontale]

Sounds good.

My friend Chris Hanson wants to come, is that cool?

[Mytiwar]

Cliffnotes:

-Elec Q.Q aboot dynamis and talks aboot stuff but he never shoulda done it cuz now he lost his shot at valor body for a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong ass time. (And let's face it you'd have gotten your valor pieces then bailed lol, stop playing the righteous part everyone knows dynamis is boring.)

-Some random people like me comment aboot it

-Jontale disapoint in failing to drop the gloves and pull his opponent's hair.


P.S.: Elec stop with the Q.Qing, get a good ls (how will you though with the type of reputation you get from making shit like this), get valor pieces and quit the game. Because you have so many things to do in real life right, that like nobody else has, you're clearly the bigger man.

[ElecMournbringer]

Cliffnotes:

-Elec Q.Q aboot dynamis and talks aboot stuff but he never shoulda done it cuz now he lost his shot at valor body for a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong ass time. (And let's face it you'd have gotten your valor pieces then bailed lol, stop playing the righteous part everyone knows dynamis is boring.)

Fail. I already have some oftens to do some low mans. I wouldn't bail, because let's face it unlike you I am committed to finishing things, like my stage 3 Aegis.

P.S.: Elec stop with the Q.Qing, get a good ls (how will you though with the type of reputation you get from making shit like this), get valor pieces and quit the game. Because you have so many things to do in real life right, that like nobody else has, you're clearly the bigger man.

No you are seriously right. I can see the forums littered with my posts. Yes, I made one...um...hmmm. Ah...er 2 years ago. And it probably wasn't even much of a post to begin with.

Sorry we can't all be in AZ with their in-house Dynamis shell, but you're summary is kind of weak, since it skipped just about everything.

That being said, I am returning to my KI avoidance, as all that is to follow is some ignorant comment that fails to find the point. I have already made the plans and began executing them to move on. Jontale gets to solo lot his Surcoat, and Hellraisers loses some members with flexible job options. So the only loser in the situation is Hellich.

By the way Myti, I don't want to be in any of the "good" linkshells, and if being vocal about bullshit is a crime, then so be it. I have all the support I need, as the lack of Leviathan servers support hasn't stopped me from meeting my accomplishments once at a time.

[Era]

First of all, lol at the idea of someone who uses his wife to get items for him thinking hes more deserving of it than someone who actually shows up. Secondly, i find it funny that he calls Jon immature, cuz no where in Jon's logical response do i see immaturity. I will also mention that its quite amusing to see Elecs little innuendo about Jons skill on pld. Tell me, was this your mature response to someone who was allegedly being an immature 16 yr old brat? I will thank you however Elec, you have given me the courage to go join a linkshell that does not fit my schedule at all and use my significant other to get items for me, then look down on those younger then me from my gamers chair pedastal. And yes Jon, your my significant other :love

[Dazd]

Yes he used his wife because she had absolutely no idea what was going on and I'm sure didn't know about the agreement made before joining the shell.

[Varizen]

You guys make me happy.

[Blevien]

Dazd :
Yes he used his wife because she had absolutely no idea what was going on and I'm sure didn't know about the agreement made before joining the shell.

Dazd, as much as i love your avatar.....gtfo and let my old server squabble in peace lol