[Wildstriker]

I rarely make topics and I suck at crunching in numbers like Aurik or Kirschy, however I'd figure I'd post what I had noticed about this just from goofing around.

1) Dune boots affects damage
2) TP return on Asuran Fists, for me, with no Store TP and Destroyers on was 43, no idea if it was full since the monsters I were fighting (Gustaberg S) were sort of weak.
3) The eyeballed difference between Kick attack damage was small, indiscernible.
4) You can 'double attack' with the kicks, without having brutal on.
5) TP return on normal hits with and without destroyers was still 13%.

[Ratatapa]

thx ill test if i ever finish the update

[Juro]

What's the delay? Normal H2H delay? Is it affected by Haste? etc.

[BlackMoomba]

My update is at 10hrs+ right now, so I wanna shoot myself in the head atm... but seems interesting, more testing!

[Wildstriker]

It does not stack with Hundred Fists.

[Ratatapa]

So who wants the h2h relic now?

NEed captain Rank
ToU done
Runic Key from Nyzul
and have killed those NM (the 3 ToA kings) all 4 salvage bosses and odin
and 100k Ampoules


YAY

¸BAH still easier then Spahrai to get

[Frisk]

Ratatapa :
So who wants the h2h relic now?


and have killed those NM (the 3 ToA kings) all 4 salvage bosses and odin
YAY

¸BAH still easier then Spahrai to get

Kings Version 2.0 !GOGOGOGO! FUCK ! ; ;

[pathwriter]

Lots and lots of interesting fights in various zones >>>>>>>>>>> spending more gil than you can win in the Mog Bonanza

That's all with the caveat that Glanzfaust (and other weapons) will be better than the current dat suggests.

Although, I haven't seen any confirmation that Balrahn's Eyepatch is actually needed for the upgrade process. As to the rest of the requirements, well, people who want Salvage gear (i.e., everyone) will get all the Charioteer titles in short order. Captain rank is a nuisance but also a reward unto itself. Beating Odin is an excellent LS-based goal. Only really arbitrary thing in that list that I can see, beyond the obvious need of getting the appropriate weapon to drop (SE could consider rebalancing Nyzul a little bit because of how many things are mutually exclusive with it: Salvage and grinding Assautls for Captain rank and now getting a new weapon), is the killing of the three Beastmen leaders. I can see that becoming a nuisance, but at least there won't be any HNM 'shells camping and whining on and on when someone shows up and asks to join the alliance, 'cause none of them drop anything particularly worthwhile.

[Aoineko]

- Seems to always be a 13% tp return (tested between Destroyers and Faiths).
- Might cap at 43% tp return from Asuran Fists (Same as above).
- Double attack rate seems to be 10-15% might be just kick attacks going off with footwork. D:
- Faiths did not seem to increase the Double Attack rate.
- I also noticed an increase in tp recieved from taking damage (6% from getting hit).
- Not sure on the level but it is a 60+ JA.
- Dune Boots does seem too increase damage.
- Not sure on the delay but it might be double...
- Dragon Kick gets 26% and doesn't seem to get a damage boost.
- 5 min recast.
- Seems to also increase recast delay as MNK/PLD flash was at a 1min 2second recast. casting delay seems the same maybe a little increase (Tested in campagin so a little laggy.
- Lose footwork if you zone and you have to wait for it to be ready too use it again.
- Gives an attack boost which took me from 410 > 450 as MNK/PLD.

Thats all I got so far!

[Austar]

Maybe the double attack comes from the natural kick attacks trait? Just an idea.

[Ratatapa]

You stole my post!

But heres my mini info

You can counter with footwork but you seem to do DMG from H2H DMG on counter not footwork DMG

here's my average DMG i was MNK/BLM

all on lesser colibri

With footwork
With Dune boots

DMG from 175-200
Counter around 110
Asuran Fists 900-1k
Dragon Kick 900-1k

With Footwork
Without Dune boots

DMG from 90-150
Counter 100-110
Asuran fist 700-800
Dragon Kick 600

So Dune boots seems to affect Asuran Fist and Dragon Kick WITH footwork.

Because without my DMG was normal.

Attack from 400 to 444 with footwork as MNK/BLM and Dune boots dosnt add base attack to footwork

Edit : on BG it says without /war or brutal you still double attack with kicks

[pathwriter]

Seems to be level 65 and it seems to remove all Martial Arts bonuses, so Delay of 480. It's like swinging a Polearm basically. The TP boost may or may not be nerfed.

As I said before, I feel really bad for people who've been dumb enough not to get Dune Boots, but maybe all these crafted new boots will somehow save their retarded asses.

Not sure that I'm really sold on the JA, though. The TP return is outrageous and would probably be even more outrageous with /Samurai (not for the first time am I glad I included that in my SJ leveling spree). If Hasso/Seigan worked with this, it'd be incredibly broken because Monk could finally support an offensive job with damage mitigation (as opposed to /Dancer which is more absorption, especially at the cost of DPS because Waltz = fewer WS). I'm betting Hasso/Seigan don't work, though. Makes Monk/Dragoon seem more interesting, though, especially since it opens up the possibility of having both capped gear-Haste AND Dune Boots.

[Griss]

i know it might seem retarded to ask, but while under footwork will kicking use up the boost effect?

i know the answer is probably yes, but i cant help to think how totally broken it would be to toss up footwork boost to full then unload a fully buffed asuran on some poor mob.

[Treize Kordero]

Hmm let's say the delay is 480 and you have a full haste gear setup using ffxicalc it says the delay would be 360

that's pretty good in my opinion that's a lil longer than having martial arts 6 with destroyers and no haste gear ( Delay: 348 )

is there a duration on this JA? and does it only work with H2H?

[Aoineko]

Didn't work with a staff and boost was used so no storing boosts

*edit*
Got 46% with /sam + Asuran Fists

[BlackMoomba]

Well, if my update does finish, and my salvage group goes, gonna test thing in there.

[Austar]

So does anyone else think that Kick Attack trait might be where the double attack comes from?

[Rellikard]

The "double kicks" is just Kick Attacks kicking in.

[Ulikota]

Somewhat, 43% tp return on asuran is kinda nice.. plus mithra kicks are awesome. Secondly it makes my usu boots useless so im gonna be emo now

[Treize Kordero]

has anyone tried Drain Samba with this JA?