[Gcdeno]

Why is /sam so worthless at mid 30's?

[Orson]

/sigh

Seriously? You have a level 75 job and you need to ask that? I'm not trying to be mean but really c'mon. Don't even bother doing Dnc/Sam until maybe 60 and even then just better yet probably just don't do Dnc/Sam.

[Kras]

/sam is the best subjob past 60. dnc/nin is the most useless thing ever for party's.

[Jiogo]

dnc/nin is the most useless thing ever for party's.

Sure thing buddy...Everyone's entitled to their opinion.

[madestmatt]

Kras :
/sam is the best subjob past 60. dnc/nin is the most useless thing ever for party's.

I'm trying to figure out if you are being sarcastic or not?! If not, my question is... have you even tried it?!

[Carynaira]

Fuck you OP. Fuck you.

[Kras]

I had a party of 3sam and 2 thief and me as dnc/sam. I was using haste samba 100% of the time and the samurai where the tanks. I managed to keep all of them fully healed and no one died. This was on crawlers too. dnc/nin tp gain is way to slow to be used for main healing for a job that is not /nin or main nin.

I use dnc/nin for solo too, but for exp party's it is much better to go /sam

[Jiogo]

I was in a pt last night 64-66 range fighting Colibri @ the Bhaflau tower. At one point we lost our whm so pld, drk x2, thf, and myself continued on. Maintained Aspir Samba, hammering in steps, and main healing. What do you know, i was dnc/nin and pt couldnt say enough about me. At the end whm AND thf left. We 4-manned 3k for one of the drks level.

Sam may produce more TP, but I'm more than pleased with dnc/nin performance.

[Ganj]

Whoever said DNC/NIN TP gain is to slow doesnt have a Joytoy and a Haste Build. So quit spreading false info, cause dipshits like you corrupt the youngins.

[MonkeyKat]

Whoever said DNC/NIN TP gain is to slow doesnt have a Joytoy and a Haste Build. So quit spreading false info, cause dipshits like you corrupt the youngins.

Haste Build is not /nin only. Joytoy can even be used as /sam for higher tp gain than /nin with joytoy will get, assuming you can get acc high enough on either.

[trendy.ideology]

Anyone worth their salt knows that /sam is a rare and situational.

Viva la /nin.

[MaikeruSMN]

I'm never going /SAM @ Mamools ever again.

/NIN <3, especially for main heal.

[Norelle]

I've done both and, I think /NIN is so boring now-at-days; everyone is always subbing it like It's the only thing out there. I think /SAM is fun. I was able to do Solo Transfixions and Scissions for some decent dmg then pop Meditate to have enough TP to to start from again. I still always beat RDM to heals and, was able to heal everyone else in the pt just fine without getting hate except one time when I healed the puller because I tend to heal immediately when I see anyone in yellow lol.

From personal experience if you have a good tank or you just know how to control your own hate gain subbing /SAM is very good since you'll be able to add some dmg w/ your solo SCs to speed things up or if you need to do more healing then normal.

And for /NIN it can be good I suppose if you can't control your hate (not saying that anyone here can't but, you might still have trouble it happens to everyone at a point) or you have a tank that you just don't seem to trust with your life. I don't like usin' all that Shihei unless I'm tanking anyways. I used to sub /NIN a lot and would Utsusemi then it'd be on the entire time until it wore off on It's own so basically I was getting nothing from it.

I personally prefer /SAM mainly from the extra TP and, from the ability to do self-SCs without risking the health of the PT & in case of emergencies.
/NIN is just too common for my tastes but, everyone always feels safer with it and have that need to have both hands full lol. Once people find Airy Buckler (+Haste shield for DNC) I'm sure there might be more /SAMs

I do agree that /SAM is for 60+ though before then, not so much. I also am strongly against /NIN before 60 since you wont have the necessary dual wield skill to be better then any other /NIN. For 60- I suggest /WAR, it did fine for me.

[Kaparu]

I still always beat RDM to heals

I won't even get into my personal opinions on whether or not Dancers belong in merit parties, but, I mean, really? You may as well invite two White Mages, and have one of them melee.

[Norelle]

Kaparu :

I still always beat RDM to heals

I won't even get into my personal opinions on whether or not Dancers belong in merit parties, but, I mean, really? You may as well invite two White Mages, and have one of them melee.

Maybe you've seen some bad dancers in your time (lol) or maybe you just personally don't like the job, but for those who play it past just being a good survivability SJ you'll learn that the job does get more tricks after that. I don't think WHMs can solo SC or have the ability to allow someone else to SC simply by using a move that has like a 10s recast if I remember, and also leaves the line open for MBs.

Also, curing without MP keeps downtime lower or @ 0 which leaves your pt gaining more EXP per hr.

I believe Dancer has great use in merit pts when you're just trying to hurry through each mob and not have to worry about resting. Plus, when something does Silencega and there's no Echo Drops in sight, who do ask to save your butts? The Dancer! ^-^

Anyways, I don't believe Dancer is as simple as you put it a, "Meleeing White Mage" as there are many other things they can do beside just cure.

[Siyual]

Why was this shit necroed...

[Joshster]

Thread of fail. This should not have been brought back to life. You are retarded Kaparu. Quit trolling DNC forums with your stupidity. Nobody cares what you have to say.

[Siyual]

Wasn't Kap that necroed >.>;

[Eikoc]

Joshster :
Thread of fail. This should not have been brought back to life. You are retarded Kaparu. Quit trolling DNC forums with your stupidity. Nobody cares what you have to say.

May wanna double check the dates of who necro posted 1st. ^^ It was Norelle, not Kaparu (though he posted right after her)

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[Norelle]

I was bored leveling Cooking so yes I brought it back, if you don't like it you're more then welcome not to post in it lol. No one is forcing you to read it lol.