[Carynaira]

I don't, but thanks for keeping an eye out.

[Arian/Armel]

Exactly, DD BLU is nothing to scoff at on bird camp.

Even a PUP can do very well at bird camp. Colibri are just easy mode meriting anyway.

[Lurker01]

Even a PUP can do very well at bird camp. Colibri are just easy mode meriting anyway.

That's the only place you can get 30k/hr anyway.

Mamool? nope, it caps around 25k/hr top.

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i just wanted to add my 2 cents :x i think whole the meriting thing thats been talked about in last 5 pages is all about same thing >.> dnc main healing and stuff like that mostly >.> every time some one mentions dnc playing dd role its like LOL. I see alot of "lets merit haste samba" so other ppl can benifet from our job only to laugh at us laters >.> how about doing the dd/support role thing and do it right buff pt with haste/drain/aspir samba and debuff mob with quick/box/stutter steps. dnc was not made to replace any job so lets re think the main heal or full dd role and play dnc like a dnc :x anyhow see ya again

[Lurker01]

i think whole the meriting thing thats been talked about in last 5 pages is all about same thing >.> dnc main healing and stuff like that mostly >.> every time some one mentions dnc playing dd role its like LOL.

Not really. If you see my post, I said DNC + WAR/SAM or SAM/WAR x2 BRD RDM COR. and DNC there acts as the first voker and have the option to focus on DD.

[OneForTheKidsYC]

i just wanted to add my 2 cents :x i think whole the meriting thing thats been talked about in last 5 pages is all about same thing >.> dnc main healing and stuff like that mostly >.> every time some one mentions dnc playing dd role its like LOL. I see alot of "lets merit haste samba" so other ppl can benifet from our job only to laugh at us laters >.> how about doing the dd/support role thing and do it right buff pt with haste/drain/aspir samba and debuff mob with quick/box/stutter steps. dnc was not made to replace any job so lets re think the main heal or full dd role and play dnc like a dnc :x anyhow see ya again

i'm sorry to do this but im calling you out on your retarded comment... there is no "one way" to play dnc. dnc does great in main heal and support and does ok in DD. your being retarded for saying that it is a support only. SE doesnt just give +15% waltz potency in gear, to a job that they dont want main curing... looks like youre the one that needs to do the rethinking for limiting dnc...

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i'm sorry to do this but im calling you out on your retarded comment... there is no "one way" to play dnc. dnc does great in main heal and support and does ok in DD. your being retarded for saying that it is a support only. SE doesnt just give +15% waltz potency in gear, to a job that they dont want main curing... looks like youre the one that needs to do the rethinking for limiting dnc...

idk i hate to do this to you ya but i since you kinda missed the point of my post your retarted >.> i did say that dnc is not ment to replace any job :x means that its not ment to main heal or put up mad numbers as a dd... that being said every job has its perks whm= healing magic, red mage= enfeebling magic, black mage= elemental magic, so so forth. i dont know if your getting my point now so just in case you dont steps and sambas is where dnc will shine and what will make the job unique. now maybe if this makes you feel alil better dnc should dd/support/heal... meaning if your in a situation where a cure is need you can act fast get job done, but plz to say that in a merit PT dnc is ment to main heal is just stupid stop trying to be a rdm or whm in mer

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forgot to toss in that lil comment about 15% cure potency is prolly SE way of saying yeah here you go so you dont waste 60 TP on weak ass cure XD and not saying you can main heal

[OneForTheKidsYC]

idk i hate to do this to you ya but i since you kinda missed the point of my post your retarted >.> i did say that dnc is not ment to replace any job :x means that its not ment to main heal or put up mad numbers as a dd... that being said every job has its perks whm= healing magic, red mage= enfeebling magic, black mage= elemental magic, so so forth. i dont know if your getting my point now so just in case you dont steps and sambas is where dnc will shine and what will make the job unique. now maybe if this makes you feel alil better dnc should dd/support/heal... meaning if your in a situation where a cure is need you can act fast get job done, but plz to say that in a merit PT dnc is ment to main heal is just stupid stop trying to be a rdm or whm in mer

forgot to toss in that lil comment about 15% cure potency is prolly SE way of saying yeah here you go so you dont waste 60 TP on weak ass cure XD and not saying you can main heal

you are just too funny. explain to me why dnc "cant" main heal.... oh cuz it doesnt have haste? youre just being ignorant. im not saying its better then rdm or whm (which its not) but, you saying its not meant for main heal is just stupid. look at the job again. also, your excuse of samba/step making it a different role of job is even more retarded... its like you are trying to make dncs into a weak smn or brd. DNC OVERALL IS A MAIN HEAL... accept it. there isnt enough support stand points in the job to justify it being a support only. youre either a main heal or an average DD. thats it...

[Hyanmensire]

Because of the AoE's that the colibris and mamools spam of course, duh!

[Arkley]

explain to me why dnc "cant" main heal

Because RDM WHM SCH & SMN do it better.

oh cuz it doesnt have haste?

And this too. SCH don't have Haste, but they have other really nice tricks to make up for it. DNC has to choose between piss poor Haste or their ghetto regen and besides their god awful might-as-well-not-be-there damage and their inferior cures with long recasts that depend on their TP build, that's all they have.
Don't tout steps at me because the initial penalty a step inflicts is piss poor and if your merit mobs last long enough for you to have a chance to build steps on them, then your party sucks, and it most probably sucks because it has a DNC in it.

[KhaluaMilkshake]

BRD DNC RDM DD DD DD Is just as effective as any of the cookie cutter parties ... DNC can bust out 4 digit dmg too just like the other DD's and if you have 4 members hitting the haste cap ( the BRD should be /NIN and playing marchx2) and all spamming 4 digit WS's you can't go wrong.

If you think steps are piss poor effect your very sadly mistaken, It is easy to get off at least 3 steps no matter how fast the party is killing thats a whole 25% eva or def down on a mob... a whole quarter...

So what is you argument 4 ppl able to break over 1k WS's and hitting almost 70% haste (assuming your other DD's know what haste gear is) can tear any camp to shreds.


Bard March:20-40% Haste+ White Magic Haste:15%+merited Haste Samba:10%+Gear cap: 25% = Well would you look at that..... The haste cap is 80%


As for ghetto regen it alot more compairable to ghetto Blood Saber... there is no regen other than lolPaeonx2 that compair to Drain Samba.
Dancer has acess to 20% Waltz potency (Roundel Earring 5%, Etoile head 5%, Dancer's af body 10%) on top of naturaly high CHR and some CHR gear.

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you are just too funny. explain to me why dnc "cant" main heal.... oh cuz it doesnt have haste? youre just being ignorant. im not saying its better then rdm or whm (which its not) but, you saying its not meant for main heal is just stupid. look at the job again. also, your excuse of samba/step making it a different role of job is even more retarded... its like you are trying to make dncs into a weak smn or brd. DNC OVERALL IS A MAIN HEAL... accept it. there isnt enough support stand points in the job to justify it being a support only. youre either a main heal or an average DD. thats it...

LOL... just too funny how shit flys over your head :x can't and shouldnt are 2 different things. first off if thats way you roll on your dnc KOOL BEANS! but me in merit pt set up am not going to play that role and in my opinion its just retarted to try do a healers job when you can be more useful in other ways Note that dnc not only cures from tp, but recast timers are F*** up for most part. If you had same recast timers as cure IV maybe but since dnc dont so lets rethink what you just said

BRD DNC RDM DD DD DD Is just as effective as any of the cookie cutter parties ... DNC can bust out 4 digit dmg too just like the other DD's and if you have 4 members hitting the haste cap ( the BRD should be /NIN and playing marchx2) and all spamming 4 digit WS's you can't go wrong.

If you think steps are piss poor effect your very sadly mistaken, It is easy to get off at least 3 steps no matter how fast the party is killing thats a whole 25% eva or def down on a mob... a whole quarter...

So what is you argument 4 ppl able to break over 1k WS's and hitting almost 70% haste (assuming your other DD's know what haste gear is) can tear any camp to shreds.


Bard March:20-40% Haste+ White Magic Haste:15%+merited Haste Samba:10%+Gear cap: 25% = Well would you look at that..... The haste cap is 80%


As for ghetto regen it alot more compairable to ghetto Blood Saber... there is no regen other than lolPaeonx2 that compair to Drain Samba.
Dancer has acess to 20% Waltz potency (Roundel Earring 5%, Etoile head 5%, Dancer's af body 10%) on top of naturaly high CHR and some CHR gear.

I found someone who really hit nail on the head and is more my type of player when it comes to dnc i put up 800-1000 on birds and its consistant dd on um so when we are talking merit pt i think thats more useful rather then dnc playing a gimpy main healer.... :x alright peace out like see more imput on this tho

[Megieux]

I merit dnc quite frequently with setup of BRD DD DD DD DD DNC
Easiest exp ever, have gotten over chain 350 with it.

Don't say dnc can't main heal. It's quite easy even with drg/sam or sam/wars or w/e the hell you want for DD.
It also depends on the person using the job, I've seen some really shitty DNC at 75.

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[Tzaellia]

I used to get annoyed with all those WARs, DRG, SAMs going lolDNC in Merit Parties. They'd brag about their 24k-28k /hr TP burns. Now I just laugh in their face. 28k an hr?! Did someone fall asleep!? And forget they had a WS macro? Now it's SMN burn or GTFO. It's also a nice way of rejecting every person that wouldn't let you in on their TP burns when they ask to come leech into one of my 670k/hr (According to expwatch)/hr burns. I get 24 merits in hr and a 1/2 for doing maybe 10mins of actual work.

Don't get me wrong I still Loooooove my DNC. But when I need some serious merits... I change to SMN and call up my buds.

[Lurker01]

Chaining is no longer something to brag about. It's about how fast you can bring a mob down.
30s? that's mediocre. 20s? now that's pro. Chain broken? One of your puller is slacking.