[Corrderio]

Wing Sword is nice for when you're doing Cannonball. But other than that you got much better choices for blades.

[Orko the Magnificent]

All i will contribute is that vs. fortifications in campaign. I currently use Demon Slayer/Ifrit's and the taru blu next to me with perdu/ifrit's, was hitting vorpal blade for 20-50 more than mine regularly, and his regular hits were at a minimum of 5 dmg higher on avg. Wasn't parsing or anything, but was watching the chat log fairly intently b/c... there's nothing better to do while beating on fortifications. Take from that what you will. Now if only I could find people to do assault with outside of spamming golden salvage for salvage.

[Soichiro]

Hofud / Beast Slayer on certain mobs, hofud / perdu the rest.

[Erlayn]

Main: Beast Slayer
Off-Hand: Demon Slayer

Hasn't let me down yet and with my new Brutal Earring. Even nicer dmg output and can't beat the stats. PLus one was completely free. And other I got SUPER cheap.

~Erl

[Vax]

I don't get the big draw to Hofud aside it looking bad-ass...

And I hope you're main handing Perdu when you're doing Hofud/Perdu combo..


But really... any BLU not aiming for a Perdu Hanger should go "Hanger" themselves LULZ >.> <.<

[Orko the Magnificent]

Booooooo @the "hanger" pun

And yeah, I don't really understand the hofud draw either... might be mildly helpful in colibri merit party or farming I guess, but that's about all I can think of that I'd use it for... aside from lookin damned sexy of course.

[Kaslo]

SevenFifteen :

Draxk :
EW PERDU. not worth it for blue mage best swords r the swords with attribute bonuses attached to them because it affects ALMOST every spell u cast and since almost every fight u go in u r gonna cast anywhere from 1-10 spells. For swords In my opinion:
Ifrits blade for offhand
Main: demon/dragon slayer slayer(+1 versions obviously if possible), shiva shotel, Beast Slayer, Relic weapon(when it comes out).

You do know that the perdu has 5 acc and attack when under 100 tp, right?

Clearly you forgot you need to hold 300% TP so all your spells are stronger.

[Kaparu]

Vax :
I don't get the big draw to Hofud aside it looking bad-ass...

And I hope you're main handing Perdu when you're doing Hofud/Perdu combo..


But really... any BLU not aiming for a Perdu Hanger should go "Hanger" themselves LULZ >.> <.<

Its just one of those rare items that people want to be good so much, that they use it even when its pretty lackluster. When people work so hard for something, they tend to be in denial when it ends up being pretty meh.

[Tifrece]

So much misguided information in 1 thread, need to clean up.

Perdu Hanger is an excellent weapon, it is the best main hand a bluemage can use. No other weapon compares with its base damage(aside from Fragarach), delay, and additional stats of 5 acc and 15 att.

Shiva's Shotel in my opinion cannot be used effectively because of its extremely high delay.

Senior Gold Musketeer's Scimitar IS NOT a viable option for an offhand, apparently were back in 2005 where delay has no effect on the amount of TP we get per swing. I ran a quick test through FFXI calculator and you will actually be getting to 100TP SLOWER with a Perdu/S.Gold Musk. Scim. combo over a Perdu/236delay sword(such as beast slayer) combo.

Other than using cannonball, Ifrit's blade will be better than wing sword +1 in just about every situation.

There is no excuses to not have a Beast Slayer at 75, unless you are having horrible luck on drops. It is a great main hand if you don't have the rank for Perdu yet, it is also an excellent offhand once you do, in fact, I believe its one of the best off hands. The NM is easily popped by just farming zeni for few hours with a friend, it can also be low-manned very effectively. Using any weapon of the Adaman Kilij variety at 75 should have you hanged for how easy Beast Slayer is obtainable(Unless of course if your soloing Imps and you really need that intimidation.)

Hofud, while pretty, is not very useful. Everything it does, Beast Slayer does better. The MP drain is around 7 1/2% proc rate, and is a fixed 5-10drain, which basically amounts to it being useless in a merit situation, however I believe it could possibly be more useful in situations where your soloing and don't have MP refresh. The HP+3% could be decent for breath attacks though..

Im still only level 60 on bluemage so I can't exactly test this myself, but I'd like to see what outperforms what, Perdu/Beastslayer or Perdu/Ifrit's blade. Beast has the advantage of having 6 extra base damage and 3 DEX, while Ifrit's has the 3 STR and 10ATT. Personally I think Beast slayer is better, but Ive yet to see any tests on the subject(or maybe I haven't looked hard enough.)

[Kaparu]

TP/Hit is pretty much irrelevant when you're dealing with a dual-wielder. There are too many variables to count on X-hit builds when you're swinging two weapons.

[Nudecke]

Ifrit's will not beat beast slayer as an offhand. 10 attack and 3 str does not outweigh a HUGE difference in base damage, you can easily just calculate that. 10 Attack and 3 STR make roughly the same difference as 1 base damage on each weapon, which will not make the same difference as 7 damage on your offhand.

You want to check your calculator again Tifrece, if you have store tp equipped as a trait(which you should always do), Perdu/SGM and Perdu/Beast both take exactly 19 swings to get to 100% tp. It's low delay doesn't make it great because of its faster TP gain, its because it means that you swing with both sword quicker. It has higher dps than beast slayer, gets tp quicker and you swing significantly quicker. Not to mention, its a BAD IDEA to ever have an offhand with higher delay than your main hand, you just screw yourself over. Even if the BS were to gain TP quicker, you still swing slower, do less DoT and do less overall damage.

TP/Hit is pretty much irrelevant when you're dealing with a dual-wielder. There are too many variables to count on X-hit builds when you're swinging two weapons.

Exactly, the difference you mention is the difference between 20 hits and 21 hits. If you miss just one hit each time, they gain tp in the same amount of attack rounds and the lower delay/lower tp weapon got TP faster. You're back at 11 rounds vs 11 rounds to get 100%, to which the quicker weapon wins. Not to mention that they are people that do not have Perdu Main hand so they are using a higher delay main hand which changes TP calculations further and still has the Senior Gold Musketeer on top.

[Kaparu]

I'm still confused as to why he put down Hofund, while encouraging Beastslayer.

Anyway, in this Taru's humble opinion, Fragarach/Perdu is the perfect build until your Nyzul weapon is out, which, given its inherent built in Joyeuse-esque effect, will undoubtedly be a perfect compliment to Perdu.

[Nudecke]

I'm still confused as to why he put down Hofund, while encouraging Beastslayer.

lol Good point, same exact damage and delay. I'm assuming he thinks the 3 dex on Beastslayer makes it own Hofud, even though MP drain is equal/better to dex+3 because it means more spells. Neither one will make a huge difference though, so they are even when it comes to damage.

[Wildstriker]

Vax :
I don't get the big draw to Hofud aside it looking bad-ass...

And I hope you're main handing Perdu when you're doing Hofud/Perdu combo..


But really... any BLU not aiming for a Perdu Hanger should go "Hanger" themselves LULZ >.> <.<

Main Hofud/Perdu until I manage to get a Fragarach. I main Hofud because of this:

Some weapons such as Blau Dolch and Company Sword have their base damage increased when the latent / hidden effect is activated. Due to this damage increase, the value of Weapon Base Damage / 9 is changed, but the weapon rank doesn't reflect this change. The weapon rank is still the same as when the items have their latent / hidden effect inactive.

I actually care about my weapon skills.

[Nudecke]

Some weapons such as Blau Dolch and Company Sword have their base damage increased when the latent / hidden effect is activated. Due to this damage increase, the value of Weapon Base Damage / 9 is changed, but the weapon rank doesn't reflect this change. The weapon rank is still the same as when the items have their latent / hidden effect inactive.

Weapon rank only effects upper/lower limits of fSTR and that is all. The only way this matters is if you are below the lower cap of Hofud or beyond the upper cap of Perdu, which you won't be in most situations. You have to have 111 STR to cap fSTR on Greater Colibri for instance, and they have the lowest vit of all merit mobs if I'm not mistaken. You have to have even more STR than that to cap Perdu on other mobs, like Mamools and anything higher. And then even after you cap it out, you still have to raise your fSTR by at least 2 more points to match Perdu's ws damage, which means at least 10 more STR on top of that 111 str. You need 3 more points to raise your damage to a point higher than Perdu's, so you'd have to have at least 126 STR to beat Perdu's ws damage with Hofud at the Greater Colibri Merit camp.

[Vax]

Just clearing things up.. Shotel does have the highest base D of all the swords we can use. Until Tizona presumably.
It has 45, while Perdu/Frag have 44...

I know that Shiva's Shotel has a high delay.. a whole 50ish more.. but with haste+double march+ at least 17% haste gear.. it's really not too noticeable. It would be nice for e-peen Vorpal build.. but still- I think you'd get better results out of a slightly faster combo.

[Kabbalah]

Kaparu :
Anyway, in this Taru's humble opinion, Fragarach/Perdu is the perfect build until your Nyzul weapon is out, which, given its inherent built in Joyeuse-esque effect, will undoubtedly be a perfect compliment to Perdu.

With 240 delay, Fragarach is too slow, IMHO.

[Kaparu]

Well, when compared to a more commonly desired weapon like Beast Slayer, which runs on 42/236, its really not that bad. Increasing your delay by 4 in exchange for 2 base damage and 4 accuracy is quite nice, especially when you consider something like Shiva's Shotel, in which you increase your delay by over 50, in exchange for 3 base damage and 8 accuracy.

Shiva's Shotel is too much, but Fragarach is quite manageable, IMO.

[Kaslo]

lol @ sword delay, it's not like we're using axes. That is all.

[Kaparu]

Shiva's isn't all that far off =P