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Absolute Virtue adjustments /facepalm @ SE

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User is offline   Eladamri 

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Can someone come up with a picture of a ranger pointing a gun at AV's head and shouting: "DROP THE F****ING SASH! DROP IT DROP IT DROP IT!"
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#22
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QUOTE (.Sotek. @ Sep 18 2008, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I didn't.


Really?

QUOTE (.Sotek. @ Sep 18 2008, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For something that gives such gear to have been so easy... Yeah, stupid.


Oh.
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#23
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The only difficult thing about Kraken spam is getting the clubs.

But yeah, that 1 minute fight was so fucking hard for those DRKs wasn't it. They just put so much effort in.
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QUOTE (.Sotek. @ Sep 19 2008, 03:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The only difficult thing about Kraken spam is getting the clubs.

But yeah, that 1 minute fight was so fucking hard for those DRKs wasn't it. They just put so much effort in.


There is very little in this game that is "difficult." The difficult part is organization, preparation, and execution. Did you notice how not a single group who killed AV killed all of their pops? AV can kill you at any time, regardless of how many DRKs you have, how good you are, etc. etc. If you want to play that game, what is difficult in FFXI?
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sceptist {Do you need it}?
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Massive Chi Blast rotation go!
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Going to be a very interesting couple of weeks here. Has anyone tested the use of Souleater over an extended timeframe (i.e. going in 5-10+ min after the last use)? I wonder if it's a static resistance built up or if it diminishes over time. If it diminishes then Souleater might still be useful considering straight melee DMG is hopeless.
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Here's a small theory. What if AV builds a resistance to weapons. Like say after wacking him with a GS for while, you would start seeing less and less damage done. How about trying to zerg him for awhile with only swords, then switch it to axes, then daggers, and so one only to rotate back to swords. Just a thought
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Because if you could theoretically get him to 79% and he puts the bracelets on, you aren't going to be able to survive to test anything, let alone weapon resistances. He'll fuck your shit up faster than you could imagine. He can do it at 100% at a whim pretty much. Bracelets are AV on his period x100.

AV is now unbeatable again.
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Congrats to the LS's that zerged from 50 times before he was patched. Looks like I'll truly never own a Futsuno Mitama.
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QUOTE (pathwriter @ Sep 19 2008, 03:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Massive Chi Blast rotation go!


Has anyone tried that? It might actually be intense. Not good enough to kill it of course but well ... at least it can be a fun 15 sec of trying running around the hardest mob on FFXI
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QUOTE (.Sotek. @ Sep 19 2008, 07:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The only difficult thing about Kraken spam is getting the clubs.

But yeah, that 1 minute fight was so fucking hard for those DRKs wasn't it. They just put so much effort in.


I'm sorry, i don't find anyone else here tearing into you so i will.

First and Foremost, an AV zerg WAS not easy. At all. It requires 10-13 DRKS with 2 hour BRD support. It requires inside PT RDMs 2 hour healing, It also requires out side Party healing. And even then it's not 100%.

AV has a TP move, Impact Strem which stuns for a varibale duration based on the player. He also has various TP moves and attacks at a fast speed. The DRKs need to stay @ or above 90% the whole fight in order to be affective and do enough DMG. This is not easy.

Any of the following 2hours will result in instant death, invinsable/Benediction/Perfect Dodge/Sam 2hour/Manafont/Chain Spell/(Minj/Astral if pets are up) TP moves, Impact strem, un-Blinked Medusa on K-Club DRK.

Not just any "Sea Shell" could kill the bastard. It was literaly 4-5 shells across all servers, and maybe a couple team up groups. So this was not the "HARDEST MOB IS EASY TO KILL!!!!!!!" Nope, he wasn't easy and probably only 1% of the population could kill him.

I'm sorry about the rest of the 99% of you. If you are not in a shell that can kill AV due to your lack of DRKs/K-Clubs/what ever. Go to ffxiah and look at how many people are selling clubs. Don't tell me you can't aquire one, and it's just luck that these shells have 5-7 clubs. LS's have spent years killing mobs selling drops and making money to get to this point where they can kill AV. And because you all bitched that it's not fair "My sky shell can't kill AV WAAAAAAAHHHHHAHAHAHHH" SE has again made AV unkillable.

You know after a year or so, all his drops would have been under 10 mil. And you could have bought them. Now no one will have and they will remain 50 mil+.

DRKs don't ding into full ZERG gear @ 75. It takes time/gil to get a good build. You can't just half ass an AV. Why do you think most shells went 50-70% Kills vs. Death on AV. He can still kill you. No matter what.

Now that all you cry babies have had your way, I invite you to please go burn 30k of your XP to figure out the damn secret. Cause i've done that on a few occasions before the Zerg strat, and guess what. We didn't kill him. He Metor'd our faces. And we all died. There is no deffence to Instacast-Metor.

Thanks to everyone for nerfing a NM that has been unkillable for 4 years and now it'll be another 4 years till we kill him again.

OMG, it's not fair RDM can solo sky GODs why can't my SAM do that....NERF BIO III it's the only answer!!!!!! NERF BLM!!!!!!!! I can't solo mobs in sea on SMN it's not fair WWWWWAAAHAHHHAHHHHA!!!!!!!

This thread: Q.Q

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Ezell Props to you. Someone had to say it lol..

Thanks guys For the constant whining. We could have kept our mouths shut and See N.belts for 5mil in a year. but no..

Like he said. Drks dont ding into full merits kc zerg drks.. it takes alot of fucking work.

Thanks again Maybe i'll see a fitsuno as soon as SE closes servers.
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Yep, SE adjusted AV days after the update because of peoples whining. Thats why problems that have been whined about for years are still waiting for an adjustment.

They adjusted it because they didn't like it. I agree with them for a change.
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I see both sides of the arguement, props to people finding a way to beat him albeit and expensive and very hard way.
I remember when people were using the BLM wall too, and that was bitched about till it got "fixed".
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QUOTE (.Sotek. @ Sep 21 2008, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yep, SE adjusted AV days after the update because of peoples whining. Thats why problems that have been whined about for years are still waiting for an adjustment.

They adjusted it because they didn't like it. I agree with them for a change.


They adjusted it because they're fucking stupid and they don't playtest their own fucking game.
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QUOTE (Knight Of Apocalypse @ Sep 18 2008, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ALL of you are going about AV allllll wrong....

I know how to kill him.

You have to get to his family and his loved ones first, although this plan backfired on the green goblin , I have confidence that if I kidnap AVs loved ones I can scar him emotionally which will crit high enough to kill him, PLUS emotional scars dont fade that fast they are like bad ass DOTs, so every time he spawns and see's me, he will always remember.

Then he will finally get closure when he appears on oprah one day and then its back to the drawing board...

Amen?
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#38
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SE: (throw a monster at us) Go ahead beat this

after a few weeks the wall of justice surfaces

SE: OHSHI *patched*

little while longer AoE pets down and lock him happeneds

SE: OHSHI *patched*

players: what the fuck we find ways to kill it and you take them away from us

two years later

players: WAHHHHHHHH

SE: ok well make him easier

players use their know how of how to kill things quick before they kill them and Kclub zerg works

SE: OHSHI *patched*



its became less how can we make this fight challenging and more how can we make the players waste their time
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