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PLD JoL Gear Setup

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User is offline   chadjw24 

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I am currently working on my Jailor of Love setup on Paladin, and I was hoping that someone could assist me in my gear setup. Generally I wear a full MDB/-Magic Damage (for Ultima as well) setup fulltime during the fight, if I am main tank, unless I am somehow behind in hate then I will switch to enmity for catch-up. Anyway, I recently purchased a Assault Breastplate and was looking at my all resistance pieces, which made me wonder if I should alter my setup. I will post both setups and hopefully everyone will let me know what they think.


Current JOL Setup:

Main: Iron Ram’s Lance
Range: Lamian Kaman +1
Head: Iron Ram’s Helm
Ear1: Merman's Earring
Ear2: Merman's Earring
Body: Coral Scale Mail +1
Hands: Iron Ram’s Hands
Ring1: Merman's Ring
Ring2: Merman's Ring
Back: Lamian Mantle +1
Waist: Resolute Belt
Legs: Coral Cuisses +1
Feet: Iron Ram’s Feet



Possible New Setup:

Main: Iron Ram’s Lance (or)
Shield: Numinous shield +1
Ranged: Lamian Kaman +1
Head: Green Ribbon +1
Neck: Jeweled Collar
Ear1: Merman's Earring
Ear2: Merman's Earring
Body: Assault Breastplate
Hands: Iron Ram’s Hands
Ring1: Merman's Ring
Ring2: Merman's Ring
Back: Lamian Mantle +1
Belt: Resolute Belt
Legs: Coral Cuisses +1
Feet: Iron Ram’s Feet

I guess I am wondering what the Elemental Resistance to Damage Reduced ratio is. I have several other elemental resistance pieces which I could swap in for certain builds if necessary, but I do not have a Ice, Wind, and Water resistance setup at all; so I am looking for, somewhat, of a "full time" gear setup. Knowing that would help me understand if this would be remotely effective or not. Thanks for any input.
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QUOTE (chadjw24 @ Nov 21 2008, 02:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am currently working on my Jailor of Love setup on Paladin, and I was hoping that someone could assist me in my gear setup.

rolleyes.gif JAILOR
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Cast Spell in ENM+/Haste/Normal Sets then swap in MDT/MDB Set when it casts, I wouldn't bother with Resistance builds since you know, spells shouldn't hit you for more than a Cure IV anyway,
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I was just curious if you can push your magic damage taken from JoL as low as, say, Bahamut v2, Tiamat, or Ouryu when you wear specific builds. I guess this was somewhat of a hybrid build I had in my mind, hoping that I could decrease my damage taken to <300-400 per nuke. Thanks for the input and for pointing out that I misspelled Jailer dry.gif
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Resist builds that aren't full out usually don't work too well on important things.
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I tank JOL in a build almost exactly like yours, except that I use Ethereal Earring and Resentment Cape (It's always active in Sea if you have Signet on)

What are you tanking him as? I go PLD/RDM and keeping hate is insanely easy, even throwing KClub and MKris DRKs at it on rotation to kill it fast.

Edit: I have an Assault Breastplate, but resist builds are all or nothing and with him constantly swapping elements, it's too much trouble to lug around all the different earrings/rings/waist/etc and have your BRD swap carols every minute or so.
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Long story short;

tank in +haste/enmity gear depending on sub and spell/ability etc.
switch to MDB set for spells (just -gas if your /NIN, WHY ARE YOU /NIN YOU CANT BEAT AV!!!)
don't get raped by summons, if your pullers are slacking bitch bitch bitch at them
don't use god damn resist sets that is just stupid

You're welcome for the tips. rolleyes.gif
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The strategy and other gear swaps wasn't the issue. I am always PLD/RDM, and I use the first set I provided as my set for taking magic damage. My question was purely based around the 2nd set, and if it was at all viable on JOL because of his constant elemental changes. I haven't tested it, nor have I attempted it yet. I posted the idea solely to see if anyone else had tried this yet, and if so what the results were. It seems that everyone, pretty much, agrees that -Magic Damge/+Magic Defense Bonus is the way to go about taking magical damage from JOL. Thank you everyone for the help.

EDIT: I can see where peopel got the idea where I wear this setup through out the entire fight. I should have said "I wear this set full time DURING MAGIC spells being casted." Sorry for that confusion.
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I think what ppl are saying about the resist setups, is that its not a practical way to go about , with this type of fight. Sure you might be able to resist 1 element, but JoL tends to switch his elements up.

Half of your gear might be able to + on all the elements, but their are pieces like, earrings, rings, feet, hands, belts, back, that wont have resists to all elements, or atleast not enough to put you at a point that will get you to resist a spell and make that whole setup useful. Basically, youd have to lug too much gear to even pull off half of the resists. And frankly you could of been hauling other things that would of been better.

Best thing to do , is tank in your normal gear, Haste,enm,etc, and then when hes casting, swap into -MDT/MDB gear. From what I expierenced he doesnt cast it too fast for you to swap in and out real fast.
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I stay in my MDT/MDB setup on JOL all the time, except on summons when I swap to Shield Skill + setup and then back. (I'd say laziness, but that setup still gives over 20 Enmity with merits, and it's beyond easy to keep hate /RDM)
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Yeah doesn't really matter anyway you could tank JoL with +MDT and still keep hate <.<
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I tried a full out fire resist whilst it was in fire mode, just didn't cut it imo. Better off sticking with MDT/MDB.
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Your current build is fine.
JoL is meh at best.
Resist build(s) are impractical...even with AB, crimson...etc. All (140+ each) or nothing like others said.

When I tanked on PLD I would always /RDM and use a build resembling yours fulltime except for full -phys on summons. It just doesn't pay to be swapping all the time from enmity/MDB/etc... when max CE can be obtained fairly quickly /RDM. It also doesn't pay to blink endlessly. Only time I ever blinked was for stoneskin, summons and back to idle. My gearset looked something like this:

Mac+1/Koenig until hate is established then IR Lance | Lamia Kaman | --
Iron Ram | Ritter Gorget | Merman's | Ethereal
Coral | Iron Ram | Herc/Merman's | Shadow Ring
Resentment Cape | Warwolf/Resolute Belt | Iron Ram | Iron Ram

Haste is near useless with the already low recasts on hate spells. Putting up stoneskin whenever you can definitely helps...especially if you have a decent MND build. That combined with the build above I can usually eat an entire T4 or -ga3, and on occassion it's a life-saver for 2hr sharks.

Now I tank on RDM/NIN and it's even more boring. I always feel bad for the WHMs...they just regen/bar and sit and watch.
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hi there Lloyd Christmas
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