[Junyi]

Here's the scoop:

Jackyl:
The part you've all been waiting for. I've only done preliminary tests, but here is what I found so far.


* The Aftermath effect lasts for 60/90/120 seconds for Lv1/2/3 respectively.
* Lv1 receives an Accuracy bonus. (unsure how much, will test further)
* Lv2 receives an Attack bonus. (20~50 ATK I believe, will need to test further)
* Lv3 receives a Double Attack bonus. (pretty high double attack rate, like Joyeuse)
* The bonus for each level is unique and will NOT combine with other bonuses.
* The accuracy and attack bonus varies depending on the amount of TP beyond the 100 and 200% mark.
* You can progress from Lv1 to Lv2 and from Lv2 to Lv3 by performing the mythic WS with enough TP for the next level. -- Meaning, 100tp WS > Lv1 AM > 200tp WS > Lv2 AM > 300tp WS > Lv3 AM. However, 100tp WS > Lv1 AM > 100tp WS > no bonus.
* You cannot 'refresh/overwrite' the current AM level by performing a WS that corresponds to your preexisting AM. If you activate Lv1 AM at 0 seconds then perform another 100tp WS at the 30 second mark, your AM will still wear off at the 60 second mark.
* Atonement damage is the same; there were no damage enhancements. (I think..)


So... from initial testing, I would have to say that mythic weapons are not very meripo-friendly since you only get 1 bonus at any given AM level and the AM is not renewable like the relic weapons. As stated earlier, I've only done preliminary tests thus far, and I could be overlooking something. I will update if I find any more details.

My initial thought was that all of the effects under the aftermath were going to stack... After reading this report, Gungnir is looking a lot more attractive to me once again.

Source

[transmit]

Yeah i seen this, my original plan was to go for DRG mythic, but now im just not too sure. After saving up 600 alex and money to buy around 4000 more, im very glad someone finished this and was able to test it before i went any further.

Having to WS purely at 300% TP for the best aftermath will wreck more melee damage dealers, its really disappointing.

[Syco316]

Leave it to SE to take a decent thing and fuck it up.

[Wolf~Knight]

Here's the scoop:



My initial thought was that all of the effects under the aftermath were going to stack... After reading this report, Gungnir is looking a lot more attractive to me once again.

Source

I've read but I'd still take ryunohige in heart beat over gungnir, 100% crit rate on adds a huge amount damage over time in jumps, especially on stuff above merits mobs + assuming the acc bonus is larger than 20 it beats gungnir there, so comes down to 100% crit on jumps + free acc[att or DA] for self/wyvern vs 9 dmg and rate damage procs, so I'll take formor over the latter, I don't find ws or defense down worth merit since ws sucks, and defense random and overwritten by angon or acid bolts.

[.Sotek.]

The 100% Crit Jump came from people who asked "What does Jump do?". Honestly...

[transmit]

The main selling point, in my eyes, was the occasionally double attacks aspect. The jump bonus (if it is 100% crit) is awesome, but having to save up 300% for the double attacks really messes over any DD's. Until more testing nobody can say if the Acc bonus is larger then gungirs or not, but the attack boost was 20~50 attack depending how much TP he had so i doubt it will be much greater. Super disappointment, hopefully someone finishes a DD's mythic soon and can see if the aftermath is the same for every job.

[Evane]

The 100% Crit Jump came from people who asked "What does Jump do?". Honestly...

QFT. Also isn't 9DMG difference is equivalent to 45STR or something >_> ?

[Xanthe]

QFT. Also isn't 9DMG difference is equivalent to 45STR or something >_> ?

Roughly 36 STR, and it pushes the fSTR cap up another level.

When the FanFest "research" findings were being posted I was on the fence which track to continue on with. If all effects were given with varying degrees at each aftermath stage I would have probably switched my main focus to Ryunohige. Given the initial tests by Jackyl a lot of my expectations have been let down and I will be keeping my Gungnir focus.

[Junyi]

Roughly 36 STR, and it pushes the fSTR cap up another level.

When the FanFest "research" findings were being posted I was on the fence which track to continue on with. If all effects were given with varying degrees at each aftermath stage I would have probably switched my main focus to Ryunohige. Given the initial tests by Jackyl a lot of my expectations have been let down and I will be keeping my Gungnir focus.

This.

[Dragonhope]

I'd rather take 3x damage proc and random defense down with a 100 DMG weapon over garunteed Crit on Jump from a 91 DMG weapon. DoT will be far superior with a Gungnir especially since it was shown that the 3x damage can proc on Jumps as well. Also +20 acc is more then enough to cap my acc on most things already and any more I feel would be overkill (especially since one is permanent +20 acc while other is only after a weaponskill). The random defense downs just means I won't have to use Angons in a merit pt or weaker/non-zerged HNMs which would save quite a bit of gil in the long run. Stronger Jumps and Weaponskills as well as better DoT comes from Gungnir. Full of win!

[Junyi]

I couldn't have said it better myself.

[Xanthe]

I couldn't have said it better myself.

I love how you took mythic upgrade items out of your wanted on FFXIAH.

[Junyi]

I was like The Flash on that one lol Time to dust off my old DMG:1 Delay:999 Relic Lance.

[Syco316]

I might restart my Gungnir dream but all in all I think I'd much rather just get a Valk Fork.

[Starr]

Not sure why everyone is QQing, if you can save TP to 300 once every 2mins (easy with 50%+ double attack rate....) and spam Drakesbane in between without overwriting the effect it would fucking destroy Gungnir. WD doesn't mean much, number of hits (through DA and Haste) and pDIF means a whole lot more (neither have effect on this). Also Gungnir's extra fSTR means nothing as it's unatainable on anything that matters anyway (it's roughly mob STR=mobVIT+80).
Not that I'm anywhere saying it's worth the enormous effort it takes, it's ridiculous.

[Vaelin]

<3 my Gungnir even more now.

[marionette]

seeing this, really debating whether to upgrade ryunohige to full now

maybe they'll do that relic boost like they said they would once mythics were out too, but SE talks a lot

[Dragonhope]

Not sure why everyone is QQing, if you can save TP to 300 once every 2mins (easy with 50%+ double attack rate....) and spam Drakesbane in between without overwriting the effect it would fucking destroy Gungnir. WD doesn't mean much, number of hits (through DA and Haste) and pDIF means a whole lot more (neither have effect on this). Also Gungnir's extra fSTR means nothing as it's unatainable on anything that matters anyway (it's roughly mob STR=mobVIT+80).
Not that I'm anywhere saying it's worth the enormous effort it takes, it's ridiculous.

If the DA rate from a 300 TP Drakesbane is above 50%, yes, it would be worth getting. If it's not, then no. It might be a really high DA rate for a sword but might not be so for 2-handed weapons (or at least the Lance knowing how SE just loves Dragoons). Have to wait and see if someone actually unlocked a Ryunohige at some point.

[Wolf~Knight]

DoT will be far superior with a Gungnir especially since it was shown that the 3x damage can proc on Jumps as well.

no it can't, I've never seen or read anything to support this, if it can proc on it, if someone can proof does proc on them I'd like to see SS of such damage on jumps should be 1k+ or so.

[.Sotek.]

I swear I've seen someone with Gungnir post pictures of it procing on Jump.