[Some Galka Guy]

False.

Theres no way in hell people could do 2600 Penta's if only the first hit got the 19% Damage boost.

"Game Description: Grants a damage bonus with weapon skills perfomed face-to-face with an enemy "

Same as WS Gorgets, people used to "think" that only the first hit was effected by the gorgets, but alot of testing proved that to be false.

pretty sure its only the first hit I dont notice a tremendous damage in my pentas on birds when im standing behind or infront or to the side lol

[Rikkitikkitavi]

pretty sure its only the first hit I dont notice a tremendous damage in my pentas on birds when im standing behind or infront or to the side lol

"Pretty sure".

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--- "I'm Pretty sure I am supposed to cut the red wire, here we go!" ---
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Get the point?

Penta is such a random WS in most conditions, that it would take a large number pool of tests to show conclusive results.

Or you could just stand in front of the mob every time and be happy that you are doing X amount more damage.

Let's look at 20%(yes its 19% but 20 is easier to show numbers) damage... 1000 Vs 800, 2000 vs 1600

Would you notice a difference? Here's the kicker, Penta can do 2000 without being face-to-face. Such a random WS .

A good test would be a person who has not merited this yet, doing a bird pt for a few hours with the same brd/cor. parse results.

This person then gets lvl 5/5 Overwhelm, grabs the same party, and parses again.

If the net increase of WS is 20%, bingo.

If the net increase is only 4% (20% / 5 = 4), then it would only be the first hit. (keep in mind these are "average" percents and not actual 100% correct numbers)

And another problem with testing the "first hit" theory, is how much damage does each "thrust" of penta thrust really do? Are all 5 hits equal damage? If i hit 1/5 for 300, would i have hit 2/5 for 600? Could I do a 1/5 for 800, and a 2/5 for 1600? There is no real way to test that, as i myself have done some 1 hit wonders for 900+.

I choose to believe it is the whole WS, as proven with the WS gorgets. Why would SE describe it as "weapon skill damage" if it was not so?

/long post off.

[Some Galka Guy]

Riki can you test it? I havent felt the need to lol

Take off all DA gear
SAM/DRG or something that doenst have DA
figure out what your full TP return is with the setup you are using
take down a list of all the full TP return WSes while facing the mob and not facing the mob and find the average for both
see the percent increase and you are done! lol

[Rikkitikkitavi]

Riki can you test it? I havent felt the need to lol

Take off all DA gear
SAM/DRG or something that doenst have DA
figure out what your full TP return is with the setup you are using
take down a list of all the full TP return WSes while facing the mob and not facing the mob and find the average for both
see the percent increase and you are done! lol

Hah, like anyone would allow me to go sam when I have brd and rdm leveled.

Silly Galka.

[Some Galka Guy]

tell them to go fuck themselves and make your own party!