[Boss Rockius]

Ultimatius, on 22 September 2009 - 06:59 AM, said:

i havent played this game for years and i wasnt in ilterendi but it looks like alot of you guys already moved on to wow. why dont u guys form a guild in wow or something? lol

I'm sure everyone's got their own thing going on for that to be realistic bro. In addition that's 25 bucks for a transfer and 30 bucks for a faction change since I'm sure everyone's not on the same faction. Still, if anyone wants to drop me a line or something like that, my character name is Rahkeign and my server is The Underbog, Alliance.

Feel free to drop me a line fellas. ;D

.. Everyone except Razsca.

I already tried playing WoW with her.

She can go fuck herself. >;[

[MEGATRON]

i left FFXI for a time and played WoW i know gasp right. was a ork shammy. i had a fw rl friends who played and tehy just ran me thro everythign in loaded me down with gold. i enjoyed the graphics and the crafting systems and the mounts. but it just didnt have the depth or community of ffxi. so i hung up my axes and came back to FFXI. the old war horses are mostly gone. a few come back from time ot time. but in the end its a lot of people who have no idea. its still a great game. me and my wife stil lplay it when ever we get the free time.

[Inutock]

Heh I became a Rogue, Druid, Paladin, Death Knight, Mage, Warlock. I play a lot of WoW. I FINALLY got Katonen to join (DK). But I agree with Ryuko/Rock. It just isnt the same. Perhaps if the Horde could understand me as I am talking smack while shanking them senseless being a WoW villain would be more fun, but its all I can do to shank, emote and move on. Instances are far superior to the shitty way it worked in FFXI anyhow. IMHO the Japanese starting out earlier than us combined with the limitations on HNM went a long ways to inciting shit that would not have occurred otherwise. HNM should have never come down to people waking up at 2am to monitor a spawn for fear of losing a "pop time". And it should have never come down to monopolization and reliance on a single class for DPS. I hope FFXIV can take a page from WoW, eliminating the ridiculous camp a spawns and obvious lopsidedness of class balance while having the single handle that eliminates countless alts and ninja bullshit that is all over WoW.

Oh, and open PvP would be pretty epic. Imagine FFXI Diabolos with open PvP between nations.........

Some of us *cough* Sonix Tim Jaygcn Me Ryuko *cough* would have never been able to set foot outside Jeuno x_x;

[Dankdragon]

Speak for yourself, I bitch people out. In WoW and this game.

and irl. I mugged some loser who tried to play games. Gold bracelet looks nice.

[Ryuko]

Inutock, on 25 September 2009 - 09:10 AM, said:

Some of us *cough* Sonix Tim Jaygcn Me Ryuko *cough* would have never been able to set foot outside Jeuno x_x;

Are you referring to the fact that I was from Windurst or the fact that I had a reputation for being an arrogant bitch? I sort of laugh at the latter now, because it was sort of true... I was an elitist for some time, and that perception sort of stuck with a lot of people for years. It was mostly the result of teenage angst and depression in early high school, though.

[Inutock]

Ryuko, on 28 September 2009 - 12:40 AM, said:

Are you referring to the fact that I was from Windurst or the fact that I had a reputation for being an arrogant bitch? I sort of laugh at the latter now, because it was sort of true... I was an elitist for some time, and that perception sort of stuck with a lot of people for years. It was mostly the result of teenage angst and depression in early high school, though.

More so than anything it was that you were a summoner and made it crystal clear you loved being so. Avatars telegraph their moves and enjoy sleeping on the job. I remember how much fun you were to pick on in Ballista I still clearly remembering you 2 houring, me sleeping your poor pet, taking a seat and enjoying the quick show Rockius put on. Splat went the cat. It didnt help that you were outspoken. Liked or not, being a known player in a PvP MMO generally gives you a bullseye. It exists in WoW. I see certain guys on the opposing faction and in cases where maybe I would just continue flying by I stop and take exception to them, knowing that at some point later that night they will bitch and moan about "that fucking cheap ass Xanreal-rogue motherfucker corpse camping my body in Storm Peaks!". And then I post saying "but I was just farming Honor!", and then the flamage begins. Yeah, some things never change

[Ryuko]

Inutock, on 28 September 2009 - 04:46 AM, said:

More so than anything it was that you were a summoner and made it crystal clear you loved being so. Avatars telegraph their moves and enjoy sleeping on the job. I remember how much fun you were to pick on in Ballista I still clearly remembering you 2 houring, me sleeping your poor pet, taking a seat and enjoying the quick show Rockius put on. Splat went the cat. It didnt help that you were outspoken. Liked or not, being a known player in a PvP MMO generally gives you a bullseye. It exists in WoW. I see certain guys on the opposing faction and in cases where maybe I would just continue flying by I stop and take exception to them, knowing that at some point later that night they will bitch and moan about "that fucking cheap ass Xanreal-rogue motherfucker corpse camping my body in Storm Peaks!". And then I post saying "but I was just farming Honor!", and then the flamage begins. Yeah, some things never change

Oh man, pvp as a summoner sucked so much ass, but I did it anyway because... I LOVED THE JOB.

I did better as a dual-hammer-wielding WHM/NIN than as my summoner... but when I pvped, this was mostly BEFORE the update that made it so avatars had increased range in ballista... so getting a move off correctly was SO HARD unless someone was bound or slept... or just stupid. And yeah, the ability for avatars to be slept really sucked, because even after that update... well, I was screwed... and despite my gear and points in physical accuracy, a move wasn't necessarily a killing blow.

I like pvp in WoW much better. I will hand them that -- they give it much better balance. I'm a resto druid, so I enjoy when I have 2+ people in arena, or 5+ baddies in BG's wailing on me and just aren't able to kill me unless they know when to cc-lock at just the right moment...

[Dankdragon]

Resto druids are cheap and only people who can't play a real class play them. Its for noobs who suck but want to think they are tough.

[Ryuko]

Dankdragon, on 29 September 2009 - 08:14 PM, said:

Resto druids are cheap and only people who can't play a real class play them. Its for noobs who suck but want to think they are tough.

Lol, seriously? Actually, I would argue knowing how to play a druid in GENERAL requires a lot of skill because of our 'jack of all trades' quality. We are the only class besides paladins that can heal, tank, and dps, and we do every one in very different ways. Our class also requires utilizing everything at our disposal.

If you think they're 'cheap', we're easy to kill. You just have to know how. I imagine you're one of those people who qq's that Paladins and DK's are OP, right? Or may be you rolled one because, "ZOMG THEY'RE SO OP." Well, that's because you don't understand their class well enough to know how to get them in a tight spot. For resto druids, you have to stun me right before/when LB procs, after I've blown my other cooldowns (Swiftmend and Nature's Swiftness). This means that my other hots won't outheal your damage while I'm stunned, and while I'm stunned, there won't be a 'big heal' coming (LB -- which usually saves me when I am stunned). So, it requires timing. Don't blow your good shit before I'm at that point, or I'll be able to heal through almost anything you throw at me. Also, keep an eye out for Nature's Grasp. It's one of the things at our disposal to take off the pressure by rooting you, getting away, and casting a decent heal, and, most importantly, more hots. Keep in mind that Barkskin can be cast even while we're stunned.

I don't think I'm tough. I know I have my limitations, and there are plenty of classes that I can literally do NOTHING about. Sure, I can try to pillar Manaburn, but when it's not an option, they can own me. (That said, going into any other form without a mana pool makes that point mute.) I can try to keep my distance from a warlock, but sometimes there's nothing you can do about constant fears. Paladins, however, are usually easy for me to survive for some reason... They tend to blow their stuns at the wrong times...

Like anything, you need a good understanding of the class you're up against to know how to take them down. This is why people who have multiple jobs at a cap level (in any game) are more likely to grasp the mechanics of a game much better than someone who has only taken one role, ever. At this point you'll probably tell me you have multiple 80's.

Anyway, this isn't about WoW... So why are you bringing it up? Oh well, I guess I fed the fire.

[Dankdragon]

Shut up about stun its not like you can't shapeshift out. Go be cheap some more.

[Ryuko]

Dankdragon, on 30 September 2009 - 03:40 AM, said:

Shut up about stun its not like you can't shapeshift out. Go be cheap some more.

You cannot shapeshift out of stun.

You can, however, shapeshift out of certain CC's... such as polymorph, hex, roots, and other movement impairing affects.

Fear, Silence, Stun and other similar effects are something we suffer from, too. And, did you know, when we're in tree form, we can be banished by warlocks?

Also, don't forget that we can only wear leather and we have to go into our normal form (giving up any armor/hp bonus we might have) to cast any of OUR CC's, so, we are still quite vulnerable. The same goes for a balance druid -- he has to come out of form to heal. We are very vulnerable in this way. AND -- we only HAVE two CC's if you put roots/nature's grasp together (since they count as being the same effect and if you root someone, your nature's grasp will come undone). Cyclone has a diminishing return. Other classes get CC's for multiple people, which are much more useful. Psychic scream, for instance, scatters EVERYONE near the priest, and warlocks can fear-lock someone all day long as well as use Shadow-fury. (A good warlock should never lose to a druid... unless the warlock sucks or has a very big gear difference, and I have faced bad locks before.) Shamans can drop a totem which does the rooting for them. Paladins and Rogues have multiple stuns. Mages and DK's can silence. Mages can also steal every HoT of mine except for LB. Priests can steal my mana. Hunters have traps and other movement impairing abilities. Warriors can charge+rofl-copter your face. My point is, it's BALANCED -- I'm not complaining about any of their abilities... It just shows the difference in our classes. So, stop being an idiot and learn the differences and you'll know how to beat a resto druid. I basically just told you how to kill me and you're still calling me cheap... lol.

Why am I entertaining this? It's obvious you don't know the game very well if you think druids can shapeshift out of stun. =/

[Inutock]

Ryuko, on 30 September 2009 - 09:51 AM, said:

You cannot shapeshift out of stun.

You can, however, shapeshift out of certain CC's... such as polymorph, hex, roots, and other movement impairing affects.

Fear, Silence, Stun and other similar effects are something we suffer from, too. And, did you know, when we're in tree form, we can be banished by warlocks?

Also, don't forget that we can only wear leather and we have to go into our normal form (giving up any armor/hp bonus we might have) to cast any of OUR CC's, so, we are still quite vulnerable. The same goes for a balance druid -- he has to come out of form to heal. We are very vulnerable in this way. AND -- we only HAVE two CC's if you put roots/nature's grasp together (since they count as being the same effect and if you root someone, your nature's grasp will come undone). Cyclone has a diminishing return. Other classes get CC's for multiple people, which are much more useful. Psychic scream, for instance, scatters EVERYONE near the priest, and warlocks can fear-lock someone all day long as well as use Shadow-fury. (A good warlock should never lose to a druid... unless the warlock sucks or has a very big gear difference, and I have faced bad locks before.) Shamans can drop a totem which does the rooting for them. Paladins and Rogues have multiple stuns. Mages and DK's can silence. Mages can also steal every HoT of mine except for LB. Priests can steal my mana. Hunters have traps and other movement impairing abilities. Warriors can charge+rofl-copter your face. My point is, it's BALANCED -- I'm not complaining about any of their abilities... It just shows the difference in our classes. So, stop being an idiot and learn the differences and you'll know how to beat a resto druid. I basically just told you how to kill me and you're still calling me cheap... lol.

Why am I entertaining this? It's obvious you don't know the game very well if you think druids can shapeshift out of stun. =/

You are entertaining it because you enjoy feeding the trolls. This is why you would get shanked. Repeatedly. With a Teabagging after kill.

[Ryuko]

Inutock, on 30 September 2009 - 11:34 PM, said:

You are entertaining it because you enjoy feeding the trolls. This is why you would get shanked. Repeatedly. With a Teabagging after kill.

Yeah, I had a feeling that's what it was. I'm just so susceptible! AH. On the bright side, at least I'm not terrible enough to flip out and get angry like some would. That's comforting enough.

[Inutock]

Ryuko, on 01 October 2009 - 12:50 AM, said:

Yeah, I had a feeling that's what it was. I'm just so susceptible! AH. On the bright side, at least I'm not terrible enough to flip out and get angry like some would. That's comforting enough.

see I don't know about that. I think after about 5 straight trips to the graveyard you would begin to post a rant about cheap ass rogues killing you while you're busy fighting 3 daily mobs and only have half health left. Perhaps I should find your server and find out.....

[Ryuko]

Inutock, on 01 October 2009 - 01:09 AM, said:

see I don't know about that. I think after about 5 straight trips to the graveyard you would begin to post a rant about cheap ass rogues killing you while you're busy fighting 3 daily mobs and only have half health left. Perhaps I should find your server and find out.....

I'm on Tortheldrin and my name's Kanzeon. I'm sort of eerily calm for being on a pvp realm and playing a class that can't really kill anything on its own.

Anyway, assuming I can survive your initial stuns (usually I can't if I'm caught off-guard in normal form without hots on -- but if your gear is significantly less than mine then may be... I always do quests where I'll likely encounter horde in pvp gear), Shadowmeld > Swift Flight Form is such a lifesaver... Now if something WAS cheap, that would be it... Although wanting to kill a poor defenseless tree in the first place is even cheaper! *nod nod*

[Inutock]

Ryuko, on 01 October 2009 - 08:08 AM, said:

I'm on Tortheldrin and my name's Kanzeon. I'm sort of eerily calm for being on a pvp realm and playing a class that can't really kill anything on its own.

Anyway, assuming I can survive your initial stuns (usually I can't if I'm caught off-guard in normal form without hots on -- but if your gear is significantly less than mine then may be... I always do quests where I'll likely encounter horde in pvp gear), Shadowmeld > Swift Flight Form is such a lifesaver... Now if something WAS cheap, that would be it... Although wanting to kill a poor defenseless tree in the first place is even cheaper! *nod nod*

you do daily quests in tree form an yet you have swift flight? Dualspec boomkin much?

[Ryuko]

Inutock, on 01 October 2009 - 07:40 PM, said:

you do daily quests in tree form an yet you have swift flight? Dualspec boomkin much?

I don't do daily quests in tree form. And my dualspec is boomkin, which makes questing much faster.

[Inutock]

Ryuko, on 01 October 2009 - 07:48 PM, said:

I don't do daily quests in tree form. And my dualspec is boomkin, which makes questing much faster.

same. Beastkin makes daily quests a joke and resto makes finding groups instant.

[Dankdragon]

Healing and nuking classes are for cowards and wimps. The real tough guys are always in the front lines doing big numbers. Anybody else should just quit the game. And you can't tell me druid isn't OP against warrior. But thats why I lvl'd DRK also and would as you put it, roflcopter your face. Cause I sure wouldn't give Ryuko the moneyshot, so she has to settle for a roflcopter.

[Inutock]

Dankdragon, on 01 October 2009 - 10:35 PM, said:

Healing and nuking classes are for cowards and wimps. The real tough guys are always in the front lines doing big numbers. Anybody else should just quit the game. And you can't tell me druid isn't OP against warrior. But thats why I lvl'd DRK also and would as you put it, roflcopter your face. Cause I sure wouldn't give Ryuko the moneyshot, so she has to settle for a roflcopter.

It's been my experience that most front line melée act like they're 12. There are exceptions. Rockius I'm looking at you. You don't seem to be one of them. Healing requires a lot of patience IMHO. A lot of melée and overzealous nukers make healing more difficult than it should be. Same rule applied to FFXI. Nukers tend to be more seasoned mmo vets who know better than to roll melée dps or heal. Tanks, IMHO, are the real tough guys.

As for Ryuko, I only bust my load from behind. That's how us rogue type roll.