So, I'm leveling NIN. A person leveling NIN, posting on a NIN forum!? Get out!
Sarcasm aside, I mostly have everything I want pretty much. I need my AF's, and weapons. Truthfully, that's about it (I've used NIN set-ups for situational tanking on MNK, while filling in ins and outs when I no longer had anything else to spend money on.) -Most-, if not all (except what was listed), I already have. But I now find myself in a predicament..
For end-game, HNM's, Sky, Sea, whatever... I was considering getting Terra's, Jupiter's, and Pluto's staff. I already have all of the NQ, and I technically do have the money to pay for them, -but- are they really doing anything more than the NQ's for NIN.. really? I'm having troubles seeing it as anything but E-Peen status, so I'm wondering if you guys can debunk or confirm my skeptisism.
(NOTE: I'm aware that even if one does intend to get these items, one must get everything else out of the way. For the sake of argument, assume I have mostly everything I already need.)
Egh. Need help.
#2
Posted 01 March 2009 - 03:33 PM
A bit of extra Acc on enfeebles, but that's about it.
A step beyond a perfectionist's completion piece. Worth using if you already have, not worth buying if you don't.
A step beyond a perfectionist's completion piece. Worth using if you already have, not worth buying if you don't.
#3
Posted 01 March 2009 - 03:48 PM
QUOTE (Amastacia @ Mar 1 2009, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A bit of extra Acc on enfeebles, but that's about it.
A step beyond a perfectionist's completion piece. Worth using if you already have, not worth buying if you don't.
A step beyond a perfectionist's completion piece. Worth using if you already have, not worth buying if you don't.
Thanks a bunch. That's all I needed.
#4
Posted 01 March 2009 - 04:06 PM
QUOTE (Amastacia @ Mar 1 2009, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A bit of extra Acc on enfeebles, but that's about it.
A step beyond a perfectionist's completion piece. Worth using if you already have, not worth buying if you don't.
A step beyond a perfectionist's completion piece. Worth using if you already have, not worth buying if you don't.
Sorry for double post, but just to clarify: I was planning to get them for resist sets. Neptune's for Tia and Cerberus, or what have you.
#5
Posted 01 March 2009 - 09:06 PM
I have Neptune's for Tia, but usually you can hit 165-170 with only the NQ.
#6
Posted 02 March 2009 - 03:00 AM
If you really want the Neptune's, ask one of the mages of your ls.
They will gladly lend you theirs for fights like this.
They will gladly lend you theirs for fights like this.
#8
Posted 03 March 2009 - 02:24 AM
Most players have friends.
I'm sorry if you don't, though I can understand it when I take a look at your avatar.
I'm sorry if you don't, though I can understand it when I take a look at your avatar.
#9
Posted 03 March 2009 - 12:14 PM
thats gotta be the most retarded thing ive ever heard.
get the fuck out, now.
get the fuck out, now.
#10
Posted 03 March 2009 - 12:18 PM
You know what's stupid? Relying on other people to supply you gear, especially when it's actually important gear. It's got nothing to do with "friendship" (although I don't loan out any expensive gear except to the two people who live three miles away from me), it's just common sense. I know that's going to be lost on you, Arkhan.
#11
Posted 03 March 2009 - 12:32 PM
I don't loan out expensive gear in general, Just too risky..And i'm not about to have another manteel ninja'd again.
#12
Posted 03 March 2009 - 01:36 PM
Neptune's staff isn't important gear but yeah I see the point.
Water Staff does fine btw.
Water Staff does fine btw.
#13
Posted 07 March 2009 - 01:08 PM
Big dif between loaning out jupiter's and loaning out neptune's. Neptune's is by far the least useful of the HQ staves, so if they have I doubt they would be as worried about gil like most people.
Personally I loan out a lot of gear to a select group of ls mates, usually when level syncing etc. but to each their own.
Juptiter's has uses on blm, sch, and rdm.
Terra's has uses on whm, blm, sch, rdm, brd, and random tanking jobs situationally
Pluto's has uses on any job using sleep or subbing sch to sleep.
I think cor and blu can gain from all 3 as well.
Neptune's...is useful when? When you're nuking in a lower tier spells? It might have uses for nin, but for any job it seems like a complete waste for how situational it is, or maybe I'm just spacing on the frequency of mobs you would nuke with water. Enfeebles that are water based for the mages are just poison I think.
Start leveling rdm, blm, and sch to justify your purchases!
Personally I loan out a lot of gear to a select group of ls mates, usually when level syncing etc. but to each their own.
Juptiter's has uses on blm, sch, and rdm.
Terra's has uses on whm, blm, sch, rdm, brd, and random tanking jobs situationally
Pluto's has uses on any job using sleep or subbing sch to sleep.
I think cor and blu can gain from all 3 as well.
Neptune's...is useful when? When you're nuking in a lower tier spells? It might have uses for nin, but for any job it seems like a complete waste for how situational it is, or maybe I'm just spacing on the frequency of mobs you would nuke with water. Enfeebles that are water based for the mages are just poison I think.
Start leveling rdm, blm, and sch to justify your purchases!
#14
Posted 07 March 2009 - 05:55 PM
Neptune's is useful for summoner. In fact it's a really good staff since leviathan is the summon to use when Garuda lacks accuracy.
Ninja doesn't care about HQ staves: it's either something you have because your other jobs use it, either something you don't have money to waste on. I used the Neptune's on Tiamat when my friend lend me his, and didn't see any difference, because it's easy to get fire resist gear.
However, some other HQ staves might be useful when building other resist builds ( like earth resist or ice resist sets), though I wouldn't buy them for mobs that are fought once in a blue moon.
I don't think any player in a competent ls ( aka a ls able to fight wyrms) can be worried about lending gear to a ls mate: the thief would be kicked from the ls, he would loose months of efforts worth points, his place in the queue for the item X he desperately wants, his mates... I don't think anyone would take the chance to loose things money can't buy to steal something that's not even worth 5M gil.
Even if it happened, the ls bank would probably refund the stolen staff btw.
But yeah, if you're a shitty player surrounded by shitty players in a shitty ls, you should avoid lending gear.
I would rather play in an enjoyable place with friendly people trusting each others than watch my back like if I were in prison... though you are free not to trust others
Ninja doesn't care about HQ staves: it's either something you have because your other jobs use it, either something you don't have money to waste on. I used the Neptune's on Tiamat when my friend lend me his, and didn't see any difference, because it's easy to get fire resist gear.
However, some other HQ staves might be useful when building other resist builds ( like earth resist or ice resist sets), though I wouldn't buy them for mobs that are fought once in a blue moon.
I don't think any player in a competent ls ( aka a ls able to fight wyrms) can be worried about lending gear to a ls mate: the thief would be kicked from the ls, he would loose months of efforts worth points, his place in the queue for the item X he desperately wants, his mates... I don't think anyone would take the chance to loose things money can't buy to steal something that's not even worth 5M gil.
Even if it happened, the ls bank would probably refund the stolen staff btw.
But yeah, if you're a shitty player surrounded by shitty players in a shitty ls, you should avoid lending gear.
I would rather play in an enjoyable place with friendly people trusting each others than watch my back like if I were in prison... though you are free not to trust others
#15
Posted 07 March 2009 - 09:15 PM
I will only loan gear to people that I know for alot of years though lol or irl friend.
when I will loan gear to new guys in ls if when Gm will be able to regive your gear but we all know that will never happend so I keep my gear.
p.s anyway neptune is not so important.
when I will loan gear to new guys in ls if when Gm will be able to regive your gear but we all know that will never happend so I keep my gear.
p.s anyway neptune is not so important.
#16
Posted 08 March 2009 - 06:40 AM
a thief would already assume they have left the LS, with millions in gear and more than these points could possibly reimburse,
you see, they dont care. thats why they can take it so easily. but hey, since were on the subject, can i borrow your friends neptunes staff?
you see, they dont care. thats why they can take it so easily. but hey, since were on the subject, can i borrow your friends neptunes staff?
#17
Posted 08 March 2009 - 12:05 PM
Sure thing, just ask Janeash. She whored so many items and she hates her mage jobs with such a passion that she'll be happy to have her Neptune's staff robber by a complete stranger recommended on a random website
( as for my friend, I would rather keep his name secret, I hope you understand)
( as for my friend, I would rather keep his name secret, I hope you understand)
#18
Posted 08 March 2009 - 02:44 PM
I dont really care, im being intentionally shifty
edit: janeash is hot stuff
edit: janeash is hot stuff
#19
Posted 09 March 2009 - 01:24 AM
QUOTE (Nattack @ Mar 3 2009, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thats gotta be the most retarded thing ive ever heard.
That's Ark.
#20
Posted 12 March 2009 - 07:08 PM
Only reason i could see for needing HQ staves on nin would be terra/aquillo for hojo/jubaku accuracy... but in a group small enough to not have a RDM around you'll probably be using katanas to help damage anyway~
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