[Phlow]

This is wrong. If you just barely get mob to con low evasion, you have a 75% - (level difference * 2) chance to hit. For example, 8 level difference would make low evasion switchover have ~60% acc. High evasion is a 40 point swing from low evasion, so on that same mob, you would have ~40% hit rate.

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I thought the level differential was common logic. Not to mention I'm not going to sit here and list all the possible combinations of 1 level above, 1 level below, 2 levels above, 2 levels below, 3 levels above, 3 levels below, etc.

[Hitoseijuro]

This is wrong. If you just barely get mob to con low evasion, you have a 75% - (level difference * 2) chance to hit. For example, 8 level difference would make low evasion switchover have ~60% acc. High evasion is a 40 point swing from low evasion, so on that same mob, you would have ~40% hit rate.

Im glad someone else noticed it, what I was pointing out.


Just because its obvious to some, doesnt mean its obvious to others. People new and old come on the forums to learn about things they dont know, or might have forgotten. Some people know that certain things have to be considered, but dont always know what that might imply. In other words people know math has to be done, they just dont know how much, what equation, or how too. This isnt about you knowing, its about other people not knowing.

[[Cookies]]

Not sure what exactly was wrong with my previous post...

Assuming you're still using Thorby, then you should keep using DD gear. We can't really say much more than that unless you tell us what you're using so we can give pointers on what to upgrade.

[rambus]

Not sure what exactly was wrong with my previous post...

Assuming you're still using Thorby, then you should keep using DD gear. We can't really say much more than that unless you tell us what you're using so we can give pointers on what to upgrade.

thats something else I do not get, i do have my SCH alt help PL/ outside cure ( i know PL is lol and good pts dont need it) It lets you drop a healer altogether in lower pts and in higher ones can go on with just a rdm or whm even if they are not really good at it. This should also be the convising factor ot make BRDS sub NIN over whm but I still run into brd/whms

anyways sorry for the off rant about pling and brd/whms but point is i do nto get why people care if i have dd gear or not when I PL like that, we have no downtime i rarely loose hate ( for most part, till people use WS at start of fight or when i have no mp and new pull is pulled without any JA up.

no one said your DD gear sucks, they jsut said you are lol for having DD gear.

and i do not want to post gear cuz I do not want to be some BG pet to rip on, i know where i lack, i just do not want too because of inv issues ( or gil like not getting a speed/ v belt) . Ill fix the issues later when im 75 and do not have to worry about bridge gear/ and that update that is suppose to give me more inv

[[Cookies]]

So basically someone said that using DD gear is stupid and you decided to post here asking why. Well, the same reason that I say that using VIT gear is retarded. For some reason I feel like your not explaining the full story but if your gear is decent just ignore the idiots. People will always question methods that are different to what they believe is right. It's a fact of life.

[rambus]

So basically someone said that using DD gear is stupid and you decided to post here asking why. Well, the same reason that I say that using VIT gear is retarded. For some reason I feel like your not explaining the full story but if your gear is decent just ignore the idiots. People will always question methods that are different to what they believe is right. It's a fact of life.

i guess so, me asking the brd to sub nin was wrong for me to do apparently because people had to "put up" with DD gear PLD.

shield skill 213 ish ( i think from what i remember lol) now so yeah I i still have a defensive stance !

[[Cookies]]

Just sounds like they took it the wrong way when you asked the BRD to sub NIN. DD gear is fine, i'm proof of that as you leveled PLD with me lol.

[Nine]

I had pretty much all the gear (which was pretty unneccessary). I had a set of extreme VIT/DEF and a set of extreme DD,

LOL eowen you're EXTREME

[Eowen]

LOL eowen you're EXTREME

You're damn skippy I'm extreme!!! I went snow boarding once, that was pretty extreme.

[SillyxSara]

Which part? The dot or the low evasion being over 80% hit rate?

If it's the dot statement: Good job quoting half the fucking statement. To reiterate: If they check as High Evasion, you have a less than 60% chance to hit. And you're dot will be lol.



Oh, hybrid I have no problem with. It's people that use this over this for the extra str (pre sub nin, duh).



Highest swift isn't always the same as your average swift. You're falling into the sub thf trap - Tons of inexperienced dd's think that sub thf is the best sub for damage because it creates huge numbers, however it's usually WAR with a steady stream that causes those numbers. Back in the day, I could score a 600 point Vorpal, but if I didn't have the acc gear, it was a 1 in 50 chance.

It doesn't matter, DD pld isnt about trying to parse like a DD, it's a matter of doing MORE dmg then otherwise gives you MORE hate and kills the mob faster means you take less hits making up for the extra dmg/hit.

I'm 60 pld have been DD pld since level 1 (btw I was top DD In dunes because I used mighty rings and actually ate food even though it was just jerky) I tanked lesser colbri as 53 pld in full DD gear (even luisant haub) except for af feet and buckler earring. WE got chain 5's nonstop, nobody could touch my hate (the others were synced to 55 though to kill the mob faster) I spammed crab sushi to make up for the ACC (crab sushi is the price of kabobs on my server and still gives you sushi ACC) DD pld is always the best choice as long as your DD's can kill the mob fast enough and if they cant fuck that pt your a tank you can be picky.

[Hitoseijuro]

DD pld is always the best choice as long as your DD's can kill the mob fast enough and if they cant fuck that pt your a tank you can be picky.

Id have to disagree with this a bit. And think about it, if your DDs arent killing fast enough, its even more of a reason to DD up, and provide more damage for your party. So DD pld should be used whether your DDs are killing fast enough, or not. DDpld puts less of a burden on the party, you're providing your own cures and damage.

Imo the damage taken from turtle to DD is so small, that compared with how much more damage you put out, it would over weigh that small amount of damage taken.

However going back to what Sara, was saying, a lot of ppl whom have tried DD pld and thought it wasnt working for them, probably fell into that spot. That the DDs werent killing fast enough, and to them, felt that they were taking too much damage. Which is why they thought/think DD pld isnt as great as ppl make it out to be. Problem is, youd probably take just as much in that party, my guess is you wouldnt notice too much since AF gear and turtle stuff, is loaded with HP.

[treelo]

To be honest, I dont't think you could fit on a Lesser Colibri, much less fight on it. All that armour would slow it down.

[lorzy]

i want to see tarus riding around on colibris :3 would be like jousting!

[monstrouswombat]

I'm old school. Came up during the age of vit + def.
Still equip that way.
I have no problems keeping hate. Unless I'm with a fully merited blu lol
Just find the style that works for you and go with it.
I have no +emnity merits either cause I lvl jobs where I really don't want em.
And as far as ppl using ws's right off the rip. My motto is aparently they want
The hate so let them have it.
They'll learn.

I have only pt'd with 1DD pld and words can't describe how much he sucked balls.
So my opinion is probably very biased.

[`MbS`]

I'm old school. Came up during the age of vit + def.
Still equip that way.
I have no problems keeping hate. Unless I'm with a fully merited blu lol
Just find the style that works for you and go with it.
I have no +emnity merits either cause I lvl jobs where I really don't want em.
And as far as ppl using ws's right off the rip. My motto is aparently they want
The hate so let them have it.
They'll learn.

I have only pt'd with 1DD pld and words can't describe how much he sucked balls.
So my opinion is probably very biased.

While sometimes I do say that too, I believe you misstook "ws" for "swing".
You sir, are a winner. My full Koenig hears you and cheers you up, in the hope I use it.

No, koenig, that won't happen, get back to your hp - shield macro and shut up.