Is Barone Corazza still worth to have? I have mine since long time but i have Homam now. should i sell Barone or stick with both?
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Quick Question.
#2
Posted 15 March 2009 - 04:48 PM
i would say it all depends on your other slots. if you're good on acc barone might be better. if you need the acc, homam would be better. i would think either is acceptable though. to me it would depend how much i was hurting for gil really. barone body sells for ~600k on my server so i would sell it in a heart beat and just rock homam body.
#4
Posted 16 March 2009 - 02:49 PM
ther eis only one reson and one reson alone to get the Barone Corazza and thats for a jump macro and only if you have the spare gil to get it, look to get ether a AJ or askar body if you dont have Ares body if you ask me AJ Vs Askar askar is better and easyer to get
#5
Posted 16 March 2009 - 07:29 PM
Askar requires beating 5 floors and someone with that much disc storage and about 6 ppl. even then you get cerb and you arent guaranteed to win, then again ose doesnt take 6 ppl to camp and there is no time constraint
statwise Askar > AJ, acquistionwise, AJ > Askar
IMO
statwise Askar > AJ, acquistionwise, AJ > Askar
IMO
#6
Posted 16 March 2009 - 07:36 PM
QUOTE
Askar requires beating 5 floors and someone with that much disc storage and about 6 ppl. even then you get cerb and you arent guaranteed to win, then again ose doesnt take 6 ppl to camp and there is no time constraint
But Ose is a twat.
#8
Posted 16 March 2009 - 09:05 PM
Who wants me to ban him? Go on, be honest. I sure do.
~M
~M
#10
Posted 17 March 2009 - 09:43 PM
I have AJ,Barone,Homam,Pahluwan,wyvern on me atm. Ive' been using Barone for just Jump macro but kinda i need the gil xD. that's why i was asking to sell it or not.
#11
Posted 17 March 2009 - 10:11 PM
Isn't the tp bonus only worth sacrificing stats for if it drops your build a hit? What benefit does 2~6 tp give you compared to a more powerful jump.
It's nice for regen, but I have to be missing something in the urge to keep it around for a jump macro when it is quite likely it would not let you hit 100 tp faster.
So trying to figure out when this jump bonus would matter, though I might have mucked up the tp rounding
most lances are 492 delay, or 13.3, 13.4 brutal, 13.9 rajas, 14 both, 14.7 both + askar
With ws 1~5 hits
13.3*6 + (13.3~17.3) = 93.1~97.1 NQ/NQ could decrease hit
13.4*6 + (13.4~17.4) = 93.8~97.8 NQ/NQ could decrease hit
13.9*6 + (13.6~17.6) = 97.3~101.3 NQ/NQ could decrease hit or not be needed
14.0*5 + (14.0~18.0) = 84.0~88.0 HQ/HQ with two jumps could completely drop a hit on a 5 hit ws
14.0*6 + (14.0~18.0) = 98.0~102.0 good chance barone would do nothing
14.7*5 + (14.7~18.7) = 88.2~92.2
that's 15.2 with /sam 15.4 brutal, 15.9 rajas, 16 both, 16.7 both + askar on ws 1~5
15.2*5 + (15.2~19.2) = 91.2~95.2 NQ + HQ could decrease hit, NQ/NQ would only with WS DA proc
15.4*5 + (15.4~19.4) = 92.4~96.4 NQ/NQ could decrease hit
15.9*5 + (15.9~19.9) = 95.4~99.4 barone could decrease hit
16.0*5 + (16.0~20.0) = 96~100 barone could decrease hit
16.7*5 + (16.7~20.7) = 100.2~104.2 would not decrease hit
There was probably a better way to present that and I probably screwed up on some of the rounding, but depending on your other gear and what WS you're using the barone body might not do anything and I wouldn't suggest putting it in your jump macro, granted if you are taking damage then it could really make a difference since a lot of the time even with barone you would only be in upper 90's.
What exactly is the return on penta? base tp + 5/6 max with DA/TA proc? DB would be base tp + 4/5 max with DA/TA? Can DA/TA go off multiple times? Might have screwed up some of the WS tp returns then.
It's nice for regen, but I have to be missing something in the urge to keep it around for a jump macro when it is quite likely it would not let you hit 100 tp faster.
So trying to figure out when this jump bonus would matter, though I might have mucked up the tp rounding
most lances are 492 delay, or 13.3, 13.4 brutal, 13.9 rajas, 14 both, 14.7 both + askar
With ws 1~5 hits
13.3*6 + (13.3~17.3) = 93.1~97.1 NQ/NQ could decrease hit
13.4*6 + (13.4~17.4) = 93.8~97.8 NQ/NQ could decrease hit
13.9*6 + (13.6~17.6) = 97.3~101.3 NQ/NQ could decrease hit or not be needed
14.0*5 + (14.0~18.0) = 84.0~88.0 HQ/HQ with two jumps could completely drop a hit on a 5 hit ws
14.0*6 + (14.0~18.0) = 98.0~102.0 good chance barone would do nothing
14.7*5 + (14.7~18.7) = 88.2~92.2
that's 15.2 with /sam 15.4 brutal, 15.9 rajas, 16 both, 16.7 both + askar on ws 1~5
15.2*5 + (15.2~19.2) = 91.2~95.2 NQ + HQ could decrease hit, NQ/NQ would only with WS DA proc
15.4*5 + (15.4~19.4) = 92.4~96.4 NQ/NQ could decrease hit
15.9*5 + (15.9~19.9) = 95.4~99.4 barone could decrease hit
16.0*5 + (16.0~20.0) = 96~100 barone could decrease hit
16.7*5 + (16.7~20.7) = 100.2~104.2 would not decrease hit
There was probably a better way to present that and I probably screwed up on some of the rounding, but depending on your other gear and what WS you're using the barone body might not do anything and I wouldn't suggest putting it in your jump macro, granted if you are taking damage then it could really make a difference since a lot of the time even with barone you would only be in upper 90's.
What exactly is the return on penta? base tp + 5/6 max with DA/TA proc? DB would be base tp + 4/5 max with DA/TA? Can DA/TA go off multiple times? Might have screwed up some of the WS tp returns then.
#13
Posted 18 March 2009 - 11:49 AM
QUOTE (XxShidobuxX @ Mar 18 2009, 07:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What about adding skystrider in there?
I have a Skystrider for sell. 750K
>.>
#14
Posted 18 March 2009 - 01:19 PM
AJ is a million times easier to get then Askar. Got mine 1/1 on the very first time I ever partied in LoO at 60DRG. I was so excited I passed on the whisker which, iirc, was worth a pretty penny at the time too. It took me a while to get Askar(radiant lance for that matter too) That being said should you need the ACC go with homan, of course if you can wear the homam you probably shouldn't need the ACC. I'd stick personally with AJ until you can get Askar and sell the barone.
#15
Posted 18 March 2009 - 01:39 PM
I had a question regarding the Barone Boots. Right now I'm just campaigning along with AF, but I was wondering if Barone's were worth having. I need a good set of TP building boots that I can just get from AH. Any other recommendations besides Barone?
#16
Posted 18 March 2009 - 02:06 PM
QUOTE (Philana @ Mar 18 2009, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I had a question regarding the Barone Boots. Right now I'm just campaigning along with AF, but I was wondering if Barone's were worth having. I need a good set of TP building boots that I can just get from AH. Any other recommendations besides Barone?
Tabin boots +1 are probably better than barone for tp i would say. if you cant get aurum or homam, save up some assault points and get amir boots.
#17
Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:59 PM
QUOTE (Philana @ Mar 18 2009, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I had a question regarding the Barone Boots. Right now I'm just campaigning along with AF, but I was wondering if Barone's were worth having. I need a good set of TP building boots that I can just get from AH. Any other recommendations besides Barone?
dusk are better if you have any other haste[dusk gloves/turban/swift belt], or Amir if you want some acc/att.
#18
Posted 19 March 2009 - 07:24 AM
Yeah I was figuring building a haste set @ 75. Thanks for the tips.
#19
Posted 20 March 2009 - 12:38 AM
QUOTE (Rikkitikkitavi @ Mar 18 2009, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a Skystrider for sell. 750K
>.>
>.>
nothx <.<
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