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Crystalline Prophecy - Ode of Life Bestowing WAR base armor

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User is offline   Ogri 

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This is the base armor for WAR:

Nuevo Corsolete
Def49 hp+20 Str+5 Dex+5 vit+5
War/Pld/Drk/Sam/Drg

You can chose 2 of these Addable stats!
Attack+10
Acc+10
Ranged Attack+10
Ranged acc+10
Evasion+10
Magic Acc+4(Why less for mages square;-wink.gif
Magic attack+4
Double attack +2%
Critcal Hit rate +3%
Store tp+4 Stuble blow +4(Package deal)
Emnitity +5
Emnitity -5
Enhances fast cast(5%)
Call beast ability delay -15
Snapshot+5%
Blood pact Ability delay-4
Avatar prep cost -2
Quick draw Delay -5
Pet: Accuracy Ranged Accuracy +15
Pet: Attack ranged attack +15
Pet: Magic Accuracy Magic Attack +7
Pet: Double attack critical hit rate +2%


All pet effects package deal

While some is not good for WAR some of these could make for an intresting new body piece what are everyones views?
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If I was going to get the WAR one, I'd go for 5% Fast Cast and christ, who knows? It's pretty obvious this equipment isn't designed for WAR's benefit.

BST, COR, nuking PUP, SMN, and maybe DRG get the most out of these pieces, from a preliminary examination. SMN probably has the hardest choice. It's really a shame they didn't put all the pet jobs on the same armor. I only include DRG because it's a free NQ Haub that DRG can wear.
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All the Pet bonuses are individual stats. Meaning you can only have two of the four Pet boosts. And seriously, fast cast? You would choose that over Acc, Att, DA, Crit and StoreTP/Subtle blow?
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I think if you get the pet accuracy one you also get the pet attack one.

Anyway this doesn't seem to benefit WAR all that much. I guess Accuracy and DA "could" make it a better TP piece, but I'd pick another body armor for another job.
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Well outside of HQ Hauby, Adaberk and maybe Aurum if you're going for a 6-hit, there aren't really a lot of other Bodies out there that are superior to this. Basically, this is a potential NQ Haubergeon with Vit and no negative stats, or a Haub where you give up the Att bonus for Crit, DA or some Store TP for a 6 hit build. It's not bad for War, especially since there are so very few other options.
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If you put Accuracy and Attack on it, it's just an NQ Haub with more Evasion. WARs don't need STP and Accuracy on a body piece. If they have a relic then they have enough Accuracy, and if they don't have a relic they don't need the STP. Considering that Adaberk (or even an HQ Hauberkgeon will pretty consistently out damage anything you can make with this armor, you might as well look for another use for it. Consider Askar Korazin compared to the stats these offer (it has more Atk, STP, and the same DA%), then consider that Adaberk (or Haubergeon) is better in most situations.

So, that leaves putting shadows up, which 5% Fast Cast would be great for. Going for WAR I'd probably do Fast Cast and Accuracy or Enmity, then I wouldn't feel bad swapping it in when I'm focusing on tanking /NIN.

RDM gets Duelist's Tabard, which is likely 10% Fast Cast (if I'm not mistaken this is the first Fast Cast +%, so we don't know what they're going to define +1% as any more than we know what Double Attack+1 on Warrior's Cuisses means.) 5% Fast Cast could be that your spell finishes 5% sooner, or it could be that your spell's recast is reduced by 5% so your casting timer is reduced by 10%. Either one is useful for WAR/NIN.

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Acc and STP for Bravura WARs for a 6-hit build >_> I guess?

Edit: Not sure if the 4STP is enough to grant a 6-hit build for Bravuras, and I don't feel like doing the maths right now so >_>
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Unless I'm doing the math wrong (and I might be) +25 STP gets you exactly 99TP with 6 Bravura hits. +26 gets you 99.6. +27 gets 100.2.

So, I guess Bravura WARs generally use:
/SAM (15), Brutal Earring (1), Rajas Ring (5), and Carbonara (6) to get to 27 STP
or, on birds
/SAM (15), Brutal Earring (1), Rajas Ring (5), Askar Korazin (5), Ecphoria Ring (1) to get to 27 STP

If you wanted to get a 6-hit with Bravura and only a +4 STP body, you'd need to use a Chiv. Chain too. At that point it'd probably be better to wear Aurum Cuirass (8 Dex, 8 STR, 15 Atk, 7 STP), Toreador's ring (+3 Acc), and Peacock Charm (+5 Acc.) Switching from a Dex+5/Acc+10 body to Aurum Cuirass would be a 8 Acc loss (max), but then you'd make it back up with the other gear and end up with higher attack thanks to Aurum.
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QUOTE (Byrthnoth @ Mar 23 2009, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you put Accuracy and Attack on it, it's just an NQ Haub with more Evasion. WARs don't need STP and Accuracy on a body piece. If they have a relic then they have enough Accuracy, and if they don't have a relic they don't need the STP. Considering that Adaberk (or even an HQ Hauberkgeon will pretty consistently out damage anything you can make with this armor, you might as well look for another use for it. Consider Askar Korazin compared to the stats these offer (it has more Atk, STP, and the same DA%), then consider that Adaberk (or Haubergeon) is better in most situations.

So, that leaves putting shadows up, which 5% Fast Cast would be great for. Going for WAR I'd probably do Fast Cast and Accuracy or Enmity, then I wouldn't feel bad swapping it in when I'm focusing on tanking /NIN.


I completely agree. This is the only option I feel would be of benefit to WAR.
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He forgot to list Dual Wield +3%.

I'd go DW+3% and DA+2%.

Since I have 5% from Turban, 2% from Sabatons, 5% from haidate, 4% from Belt, 3% from Hands, and 5% from Suppa which translates into 5% Haste on weapons onry(but doesn't count as "Haste Equip Capping".. That brings me to a total of 23% with /NIN on weapon delay, and 24% Haste overall.

That's 276 Maneater, 225 Joy, averaged to 250 delay with a 47% reduction.

If you add the Nuevo Cos. with the two stats I added, you'd hit the 50% mark, where you'd be swinging as if you were using a 250ish delay weapon.

I'd add the DA% simply for more swings to pull myself away from Joy if possible, and to a harder hitting offhand weapon.
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