[WolfwoodOfTrigunMax]

What do you think? Mirke Waldecors + 10 ACC & "Double Attack" + 2%? My opinion, it's better than DNC relic for TP build. But I should keep DNC relic body for enhancing '"Violent Flourish" effect' marco.

EDIT: Or depends on gears' ACC, Mirke Waldecors should get "Dual Wield" & "Double Attack" + 2%

[WolfwoodOfTrigunMax]

If you dislike my thought, post your thought and we will discuss. >>

[Avivah]

I'm going to stick to Rap Harness + Etoile Casaque for my TP needs. Mirke Waldecors is going to my NIN. Acc +10 Dual Wield 3% all the way.

[luckykrazy]

What about Double Att+2% + Delay-3%? Better than rapparee harness? Harness obviously is more haste and would be put into utsu macros.. but delay-3%/DA2% seems omnomnom for Dnc TPing. Thoughts?

[Cream Soda]

10 acc 3 %dual wield would probably be the best option.

10 acc will always > 2% double attack when acc is uncapped.

10 acc is 5% hitrate. Throwing 100 swings, you will LAND 5 more hits than you would have w/o the 10 acc
2% DA is 2 more swings (so 102 swings instead of 100)

5 more LANDED hits > 2 more ATTEMPTED hits.

[luckykrazy]

10 acc 3 %dual wield would probably be the best option.

10 acc will always > 2% double attack when acc is uncapped.

10 acc is 5% hitrate. Throwing 100 swings, you will LAND 5 more hits than you would have w/o the 10 acc
2% DA is 2 more swings (so 102 swings instead of 100)

5 more LANDED hits > 2 more ATTEMPTED hits.

Eh screw it, I'll stick to Rapparee Harness, SH+1, and AF2 bodies for Dnc. >_> Cor WS piece is just too much win to do ANOTHER TP body piece for Dnc. R.Acc/R.Att+10 Agi/Str/Dex+5 is just win for Cor WS :Q__

[Cream Soda]

Could be a godly quickdraw body if you're into that on cor.

[Melos]

Eh screw it, I'll stick to Rapparee Harness, SH+1, and AF2 bodies for Dnc. >_> Cor WS piece is just too much win to do ANOTHER TP body piece for Dnc. R.Acc/R.Att+10 Agi/Str/Dex+5 is just win for Cor WS :Q__

If all you do is merit on your COR, then by all means; but I honestly don't see how any COR would pass up QD -5 and MAB +4

[luckykrazy]

If all you do is merit on your COR, then by all means; but I honestly don't see how any COR would pass up QD -5 and MAB +4

Yah, I did the whole quick draw solo thing. I'm good at it when I have the patience but.. I'm so over soloing. Once you solo an NM.. you have the benefit of saying "Hey, I soloed that on Cor." but I'll take finding 5-6 friends and killing an NM in 10 minutes than soloing for one hour, lol.

But yah, I'm not disagreeing though. The QD-4 MAB5 is absolutely AMAZING for Cors who love to solo all the time via Quick Draw / Kiting. Cor made out like a bandit in that alone.

[Kalima]

I'll probably do just acc/att +10 until I get etoile casaque. Then switch augments over to racc/ratt +10 for my rng until I get an osode

Once those two things happen....maybe change it to a evasion +10 acc +10 and sell off my SH+1

[WolfwoodOfTrigunMax]

10 acc 3 %dual wield would probably be the best option.

10 acc will always > 2% double attack when acc is uncapped.

10 acc is 5% hitrate. Throwing 100 swings, you will LAND 5 more hits than you would have w/o the 10 acc
2% DA is 2 more swings (so 102 swings instead of 100)

5 more LANDED hits > 2 more ATTEMPTED hits.

I accept your opinion. Some members in my pearl argued about which is better body for TP build: Rapparee Harness VS Mirke Waldecors with ACC+Dual Wield

I say Mirke Waldecors, because I thought Rapparee Harness has no ACC and Mirke Waldecors can get 10 ACC and 3% dual wield that makes good TP build like Cream Soda said. (And I say it looks better than Rapparee Harness for fashion. Rapparee Harness looks so gay unless you're mithra or female. > _ >)

[Seibar]

i use rapp harness for the haste when building TP.
relic body is just for violent stun and weapon skills

if you can get 3+% haste and some DA it would be a nice alternative though (and look better?)

[NinjaGorge]

I accept your opinion. Some members in my pearl argued about which is better body for TP build: Rapparee Harness VS Mirke Waldecors with ACC+Dual Wield

I say Mirke Waldecors, because I thought Rapparee Harness has no ACC and Mirke Waldecors can get 10 ACC and 3% dual wield that makes good TP build like Cream Soda said. (And I say it looks better than Rapparee Harness for fashion. Rapparee Harness looks so gay unless you're mithra or female. > _ >)

Dual Wield's TP gain is based on that reduced delay so it might not actually be better than 2% DA.

DW at lower delays(like dual wielding daggers) does improve TP gain but not sure how much, I'm lazy to do the math.

[WolfwoodOfTrigunMax]

Hmmm... Does DA+2% stack with Brutual Earring?

[Thelian]

yes

[Rockon]

iirc with suppa and DW2 it's something like -20% delay, but only -7% tp/hit or so.

[Kaparu]

Hmmm... Does DA+2% stack with Brutual Earring?

If by stack you mean eat each other, then yes. Brutal Earring and Mirke Waldecors(with the aforementioned augmentation) is ~6% DA.

[KhaluaMilkshake]

Hmmm, Etoile qasque has Voilent Flourish augmentation, covers acc and atk, and has a DEX modifier for Dancing Edge.
Etoile wins.


Did I mention it has Violent Flourish augmentation?

[WolfwoodOfTrigunMax]

DEX modifier for Dancing Edge? Actually, it's CHR, noob. Because DNC doesn't have FRICKIN sneak/trick attack.

[KhaluaMilkshake]

DEX modifier for Dancing Edge? Actually, it's CHR, noob. Because DNC doesn't have FRICKIN sneak/trick attack.

Actually Wolfy dear you are incorrect it's DEX and CHR mods. DE is a multihit WS so you will want as much crits and acc as possible, DNC has natural CHR already you don't need to do much for that. You could have atleast said something about Mirke having STR DEX and VIT +5 being greater than the +4 DEX from Etoile but regardless Etoile is a better peice because stun is such an asset, and that was my main point. The DEX is just a bonus.

While Dancer dosn't have SA/TA it does have Building Flourish which is a increase to Accuracy, Attack, and Critical Hit Rate.

DNC dosn't need another TP body peice.