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Mirke waldecors Our new "top" BST body piece?

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User is offline   Babyorphan 

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So.. first glance hated it, second glance, see uses for it, third glance I love it. How about you?



Wich self-chosen attributes are you planning to take?
I myself are looking currently at maybe Accuracy for myself and DA/Crit for pet.
But I am still thinking about other uses for the body. Fast Cast for Utsu recasts maybe.. alot of possibilities here.
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The same happened to me lol.

I think I will choose pet acc and critritical+double attack, this will help me a lot on NMs. For normal fights I don't know if I would use Hauberk or Nyzul body instead, I think I would use this one to fe more safe and not stealing hate.
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I think ill go for accuracy +10 and enhanches dual wield so it will be my tp&ws body till adaberk (which ill never get lol).
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I think MonstersInc on Ramuh just did a group Ejaculation XD

Seriously, this is one of the best pet updates in a while.
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Oh,i've missed the double attack for us...then i think ill go for accu & da.
Argh,anyway,ill prolly decide once ill face it ingame lol
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Since not even wearing the Holy fucking Breastplate of God that instakills everything will get me an invite, I think I'd go with anything that helps soloing the most, maybe Call Beast delay and Pet DA/Crit.

But in all honesty, I have no idea lol.
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Good combinations that I can spot quickly:

Accuracy+10 with "Double Attack"+2% - TP gear, potentially WS.
Accuracy+10 with Critical hit rate +3% - TP gear, potentially WS.
Accuracy+10 with "Store TP"+4 "Subtle Blow"+4 - TP gear.
Accuracy+10 with Enhances "Dual Wield" effect (+3%) - TP gear.
Accuracy+10 with Pet: "Double Attack"+2% Critical Hit Rate +2% - TP gear.

Evasion+10 with Enhances "Fast Cast" effect (+5%) - Utsusemi macro gear.

"Double Attack"+2% with Critical hit rate +3% - TP gear, WS gear.
"Double Attack"+2% with "Store TP"+4 "Subtle Blow"+4 - TP gear, potentially WS.
"Double Attack"+2% with Enhances "Dual Wield" effect (+3%) - TP gear, potentially WS.
"Double Attack"+2% with Pet: "Double Attack"+2% Critical hit rate +2% - TP gear, potentially WS.

Critical hit rate +3% with Enhances "Dual Wield" effect (+3%) - TP gear, potentially WS.
Critical hit rate +3% with Pet: "Double Attack"+2% Critical hit rate +2% - TP gear, potentially WS.

"Store TP"+4 "Subtle Blow"+4 with Enhances "Dual Wield" effect (+3%) - TP gear.

Enhances "Fast Cast" effect (+5%) with Enhances "Dual Wield" effect (+3%) - TP gear, Utsusemi macro gear.
Enhances "Fast Cast" effect (+5%) with "Call Beast" ability delay -15 - Macro gear.

"Call Beast" ability delay -15 with Pet: "Double Attack"+2% Critical hit rate +2% - Macro gear, potentially TP.

Enhances "Dual Wield" effect (+3%) with Pet: "Double Attack"+2% Critical hit rate +2% - TP gear.

Pet: Accuracy+15 Ranged Accuracy+15 with Pet: Attack+15 Ranged Attack+15 - TP gear, sideline gear.
Pet: Accuracy+15 Ranged Accuracy+15 with Pet: "Double Attack"+2% Critical hit rate +2% - TP gear, sideline gear.

Pet: Attack+15 Ranged Attack+15 with Pet: "Double Attack"+2% Critical hit rate +2% - TP gear, sideline gear.
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First glance, I would go with Pet DA/Crit and Pet Acc just to help keep hate with the pet.

I wonder if adding on DA works like with other equipment granting DA to pets that dont have it like CC, which would expand the use of CC a bit more,

Still is a nice boost for all pets around. Just seems the most logical choice from what is given.
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It does add a new flavor to the BST gear set for pets:

Lion tamer ( Pet: DEF: +10, Enchantment: Enfire )
Pallas's shield ( Enhances Reward effect, Pet: DEF +10 )
Breeder Mask ( Accuracy +4, Enmity -3, Haste +1%, Physical Damage: "Blaze Spikes" effect, Set: Increases pet defense and enmity )
Mirke waldecors ( HP +10, MP +10, STR +5, DEX +5, AGI +5, Pet: Accuracy +15 Ranged Accuracy +15, Pet: "Double Attack"+2% Critical hit rate +2% )
Breeder Mufflers ( DEX +2, INT +2, Accuracy +4, Enmity -4, Set: Increases pet defense and enmity )
Askar dirs ( HP +15, INT +4, DEX +4, Accuracy +5, Attack +5, Pet: DEF +10 )

This post has been edited by Babyorphan: 23 March 2009 - 08:32 PM

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Perhaps I'm stupid, but what do Stout Bonnet and Monster Gaiters +1 add to the pet? I know they enhance Reward, but couldn't those simply be macro'd in?
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that essentially what you do with either peice, except for cosmetic effects

edit: me personally, i dunno. im thinkin fast cast DW

or pet DA/Acc, it really comes down to that for me. 5 fast cast is alot!
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QUOTE (Babyorphan @ Mar 23 2009, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It does add a new flavor to the BST gear set for pets:

Lion tamer ( Pet: DEF: +10, Enchantment: Enfire )
Pallas's shield ( Enhances Reward effect, Pet: DEF +10 )
Stout bonnet ( HP +9, MP +9, Enmity -5, Reduces Reward Recast Time, Additional Effect vs Beasts: Charm +6 )
Mirke waldecors ( HP +10, MP +10, STR +5, DEX +5, AGI +5, Pet: Accuracy +15 Ranged Accuracy +15, Pet: "Double Attack"+2% Critical hit rate +2% )
Beast bazubands ( Pet: Defense Bonus (5%?), Besieged: Enhances "Call Beast" effect )
Askar dirs ( HP +15, INT +4, DEX +4, Accuracy +5, Attack +5, Pet: DEF +10 )
Monster gaiters +1 ( HP +13, VIT +5, Enhances Reward Effect, Charm +3 )

Why the HQ versions? (Read my KI custom title tongue.gif)


Sorry but if you want HQ =>

- Breeder Mask : (DEF: 22 Accuracy +4 Enmity -3 Haste +1% Physical damage: "Blaze Spikes" effect
Set: Increases pet defense and enmity)

-Breeder Mufflers : (DEF: 18 DEX +2 INT +2 Accuracy +4 Enmity -4
Set: Increases pet defense and enmity)

You have yet Herder's Subligar : (DEF: 8 Enhances pet accuracy)

and Aymur :DMG: 50 Delay: 312 Pet: Attack Bonus
Enhances "Sic" effect
"Primal Rend"
Aftermath (Incl. Pets):
Inc. Acc./Atk., Occ. attacks twice



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QUOTE (pathwriter @ Mar 23 2009, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Perhaps I'm stupid, but what do Stout Bonnet and Monster Gaiters +1 add to the pet? I know they enhance Reward, but couldn't those simply be macro'd in?


Yeah in all honesty you would, together with in example Monster Jackcoat (+1) and Ogre Gloves (+1), just felt like editing them in there.

QUOTE (Xoraken @ Mar 23 2009, 11:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry but if you want HQ =>

- Breeder Mask : (DEF: 22 Accuracy +4 Enmity -3 Haste +1% Physical damage: "Blaze Spikes" effect
Set: Increases pet defense and enmity)

-Breeder Mufflers : (DEF: 18 DEX +2 INT +2 Accuracy +4 Enmity -4
Set: Increases pet defense and enmity)

You have yet Herder's Subligar : (DEF: 8 Enhances pet accuracy)

and Aymur :DMG: 50 Delay: 312 Pet: Attack Bonus
Enhances "Sic" effect
"Primal Rend"
Aftermath (Incl. Pets):
Inc. Acc./Atk., Occ. attacks twice


Oh yeah, the Breeder set, those instead of Beast bazubands for sure, and that adds a more constant head piece for a set like that.
Totally forgot about that set to be honest, hehe. Indeed the Aymur would be great too, but needs you to be actively fighting beside pet.
Unless I misunderstood how the Aftermath effect works when they added it while I was taking a break from the game.
For fun I just wrote that set up there as a "Oh I'm just going to stand on the side and watch my pet fight while tossing some Rewards."
The comment first of all about HQ versions is because afaik./remember, there ain't really a difference in NQ and HQ version on the Reward.
Editing my post anyways, Breeder is deffo something I shouldn't have overlooked.

Personally considering making this a new TP body for my BST though.
Enhance DW and Acc or DA maybe, I can't really decide on the two stats I'll put on it when I some day get it. Not right now at least.
When thinking "hard" about it, most likely it'll become a macro piece for me. Fast Cast is really tempting.
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Think i'm gonna lean toward pet abilities, cause i'm all about helping my jug out. The more than can do, the quicker we can kill stuff together.
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Initially I wanted to use this armor for my BST but the stats for SMN are equally as good since I don't have a Yingyang robe. sad.gif
lol this is so hard to chooooooooooooooose!
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Yinyang robe is fairly easy to get though usually :-)
I'm still leaning towards Accuracy+10 with Pet: "Double Attack"+2% Critical Hit Rate +2% for TP set body.
That or Accuracy+10 with Enhances "Dual Wield" effect (+3%) or "Double Attack"+2% or Critical hit rate +3%.
Only sure about keeping Accuracy+10 unless they add some other slot equipment with a decent boost to Accuracy.
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Since bst already has haub, askar, and a variety of other body options so I'ld lean toward the pet stats. Pet +15 acc seems like it would dominate the pet DA/crit or atk. Call beast is also neat. Though personally I'm planning on pet acc and pet mac/mab for pup, so it would just benefit bst coincidentally.

DW3% looks mediocre especially when there's already askar, it's how sword strap never gets worn over pole strap. Putting 10 acc on it looks silly since bst has a lot of body options and very few options to buff pet.
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QUOTE (Requim @ Mar 31 2009, 11:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since bst already has haub, askar, and a variety of other body options so I'ld lean toward the pet stats. Pet +15 acc seems like it would dominate the pet DA/crit or atk. Call beast is also neat. Though personally I'm planning on pet acc and pet mac/mab for pup, so it would just benefit bst coincidentally.


Yes, for those of you who do not know: 2 accuracy = 1% hit rate.

15 Accuracy = 7.5% increased hit rate which will be very useful unless your pet has capped accuracy(which it shouldn't unless you're fighting weaker monsters). 7.5% hit rate > 2% DA and 2% crit(If you're pet isn't capped on accuracy that is).

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DW3% looks mediocre especially when there's already askar, it's how sword strap never gets worn over pole strap. Putting 10 acc on it looks silly since bst has a lot of body options and very few options to buff pet.


Yeah, I don't really see the reason to put "only" melee stats on it. BST already can use Haubergeon/Hauberk. Maybe a combination of both pet and melee stats but only melee stats wouldn't be needed since BST already has plenty of melee gear.

Personally I'd probably choose: Pet accuracy +15 and either Pet attack +15 or DA +2%/Crit +2%. It'll help with anything that involves me not meleeing(fighting certain NMs for example).
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I'm curious, what did you choose?

I still don't know if I should choose Pacc and PDA/Crit or Pacc and Patk... or maybe a mage body :/
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i picked pet: ACC and ACC for me so i can DoT for when i solo and macro hauby in for WS
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