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Goodnight, Togi?

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Base body

And get to add 2 of the following


Which essentially gives you a Hauby, which is better than togi for sam and nin.

Personally, I have togi+1 and 1 piece away from full usu, so I wouldn't waste a 1time item on this, but maybe a few others of you would?
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Enkidu is basically a Haub already. Only lacking 5 DEX.

I'd probably do double attack and crit rate for MNK (if I were even going to bother with focusing mine at MNK.) Maybe replace the crit rate with the attack.

Can't go wrong with the double attack though, especially for a Dragon Kick piece. Not going to help Asuran Fists, but you can macro in Togi for it anyway.
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Well the thing about enkidu -5 dex. The dex tbh is what I see making the haub more worthwhile since you get more acc than togi from that. From a straight up 5 str vs 10 attack, I'd go for the attack if it didn't come down to the acc.

And if you do the other options (DA or Crit) then you're out either the 10 attack or the 10 acc.
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QUOTE (Cream Soda @ Mar 23 2009, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Base body

And get to add 2 of the following


Which essentially gives you a Hauby, which is better than togi for sam and nin.

Personally, I have togi+1 and 1 piece away from full usu, so I wouldn't waste a 1time item on this, but maybe a few others of you would?


Yeah i dont do salvage anymore so getting something like usukane would probably not happen for a while, i do sky though so eventually i would get a shura togi (although i dont think i will ever have enough gil to buy a -1 cursed item) and a KO, what i really like about this is that once it becomes obsolete on my mnk, i might just get different stats for when its used for my BLU. I also to limbus though so once/if i get the homam body i can once again reset the stats and use if for another job which is awesome.
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what? no counter +5 ...
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Where does it say you can reset the stats? I highly doubt SE would be that nice.
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http://forums.ffxiclopedia.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19115
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This is a pretty good deal for my Monk. Since I only just started doing Dynamis at the end of Feb., this is an excellent stopgap til I can try for better in other events.

This actually pleases me a good deal. Though it really leaves one to wonder what the final piece of Campaign related gear is going to look like in light of these stats.
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ACC+10 and Crit+3% or DA+2% on the monk body would make it very comparable to haubergeon.

As in, for those who wanted a haubergeon like body for monk and don't do salvage.
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For a Samurai, Haubergeon is only a marginal winner and that's because of the nature of two-handed weapons (Samurai are always talking about Haubergeon +1, too, which is a different kettle of fish entirely). For a Ninja, Haubergeon is essentially a WS piece that's on par with Shura Togi and, arguably, Koga Chainmail during the TP phase. For Monk, I'm underwhelmed. I see the possibility of this with Accuracy/Attack +10 being analogous to Shura Togi. It would produce a slightly better Howling Fist or Dragon Kick due to the STR, but Shura Togi is likely to remain on top for Asuran Fists due to the relevance of Attack in multi-hit weaponskills that do not have an Attack Bonus built in. And considering that we can use Kirin's Osode, which will produce a substantially better Howling Fist or Dragon Kick than either option (and recent testing indicates that Accuracy is not as relevant as we once thought for the first hit of weaponskills, which is the important one), I'm less impressed by going this particular route with Mirke Wardecors.

If we customize it another way, though, it could be good. I'm really not sure what to do with this. Prior to getting my Togi, I'd be pissing myself about this, but looking at the stats and having Shura Togi now, it's a lot less appealing than it would have been. I'm almost certainly going to get the Mirke Wardecors (the options for my White Mage and Bard do not impress me as both of those jobs get plenty of good body armor), but I've no clue what I'll do with it.
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I'd probabaly take Acc+10 and Crit+3 or DA+2, although I tank on MNK a lot (daily) for my LS in lowman events so stats like Enmity and Fast Cast (/nin haet) are attractive on a body that is slightly attacking already (lol).

see what i did there
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Doing ACC & Crit is just making a Pahluwan minus 2% Crit. IMO you would be better off with the DA especially if you're using Brutal Earring.
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the only 2 that would be worth adding are Acc/Att.. That's about it the 2% on DA and 3% on crit are not worth it, considering there is Pahluwan body, and 2% DA is a joke at best.. for monk alone this would be a great item to use until Togi. But if you already have Togi, i would say make it fit another job!
considering:
1) we don't know the span of story
2)difficulty
3)if we can change stats 1se it's made
It would be best to choose a body that would best improve a job you have then another inventory -1
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Contrary to a statement I made in the SAM forums, I'll probably be getting this with the +10 accuracy and +2% double attack enhancements. I can make up for the attack with food, but can't get DA anywhere else.

It's a really tough choice that I'll probably be trying to figure out up until I get the body, but this is my initial thought.
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like i said in the front page post. if i did not have my togi or a good znm shell to get a enkidu harness i would definitely look to make my self a burgeon at least as a bridge piece until i could get my hands on something better and then request it. i think every one who is going to get the add-on (save for main job mages) are a bit like a kid on a budget in a candy store right now.


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QUOTE (Bheemz @ Mar 23 2009, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Doing ACC & Crit is just making a Pahluwan minus 2% Crit. IMO you would be better off with the DA especially if you're using Brutal Earring.


Had it been determined that P.body is 5% crit? I thought it was 2 or 3%.
If it is 5% then the crit bonus on this is even less appealing.

I still wish there would of been a movement speed option, that's the only option that would of been worthwhile for myself.
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Doing ACC & Crit is just making a Pahluwan minus 2% Crit. IMO you would be better off with the DA especially if you're using Brutal Earring.


Hardly an accurate comparison, for one thing the crit bonus on P.body is nowhere near 5% - a solid 1% is a generous assumption.

A better (more accurate) analogy would be "you're making a Haubergeon with 3% crit rate instead of 10 attack". Although I do think DA would be a better choice than crit rate.
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Since it seems that they are still setting up the additional stats you can put on the body piece, here's a question. With "Enhances Dual Wield (3%)" as an option, would a similar "Enhances Martial Arts" effect be beneficial?
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Another -20 Delay would be nice, especially since it is separate from Haste reductions in attack delay, but I'm not sure if I'd really be excited by it.
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I was thinking along the same lines. 328 base delay with Destroyers (or 309 base delay for the Puppetmasters that went through with getting the Mythic H2H) would be nice, but I'd hate to have to go back to getting 4-and-some-change TP per hit. I'm thinking of going with the ACC and ATT route on this. I'm sitting on a Cursed Togi I can't seem to get uncursed, and it would outdo the Scorpion Harness +1 I'm using now. Add in that it would be used for THF as well (no sky/limbus/sea shell) and it looks even better.
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