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For those of us without the time/ability to get a Morrigan's Robe, is there any reason to be excited by this for Black Mage? It apppears we are able to add two of the augments to the base piece.
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No.

(well to be honest, macc+4 mab+4 would make it slightly better than a nq weskit, but still inferior to morrigan's, genie, or oracles. Pretty meh.)
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QUOTE (Nerull @ Mar 23 2009, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No.

(well to be honest, macc+4 mab+4 would make it slightly better than a nq weskit, but still inferior to morrigan's, genie, or oracles. Pretty meh.)


5% Fast Cast isn't bad to macro in actually. It's better than NQ weskit. Everything else beats it.
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That's what I was afraid of. I was hoping someone would see something that I missed to get me excited about the augmenting thing; I might hold off on this new mini-expansion thing for a while.
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this augmenting thing is only epic for a couple jobs.
cor/rng/smn/pup/pld/dnc. not sure what else
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QUOTE (OneForTheKidsYC @ Mar 23 2009, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
this augmenting thing is only epic for a couple jobs.
cor/rng/smn/pup/pld/dnc. not sure what else


You forgot bst... They probably have the most to mull over with this gear.

It can also grant dual wield without a nin sub... that's gotta be worth something to somebody...

Hmm....

Redingote with +4 MAB/Macc, +5 int... and dual wield...
Toss on an Antares with +10 MAB/Macc in one hand...
Mistilteinn in the other hand with +10 int...

... nah.
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It can also grant dual wield without a nin sub

lol
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QUOTE (Gyth @ Mar 23 2009, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lol


Yeah, yeah, I forgot about the Suppa and how it doesn't dual wield... I don't play melee normally tongue.gif
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save this for a different job.

if you are soley fixed on blm use fast cast and something to better your support I/E stun macro. ( -emity and fast cast)

for me im debating in investing in THF or RNG or something.

IF you are a SCH as well you could do MAB and mag acc. (this will be what i get on my SCH chr)

5 int and 4 mab is quite dencent for people wanting to use 8 MAB/-8 mag acc or 11 int

for blm main use mah body for hard stuff or genie, this could replace genie but very small improvement.
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Would that body be good for sch? I think it'd be a nice alternative due to lack of Weskit/Morrigan's.

Personally, I'm gonna go for the Pld body with fastcast/enmity+, but that's just me. ohmy.gif
My blm is going to be getting Morrigan eventually, so why bother giving up the chance for something that has *so* much more potential for a gimpy pseudo-morrigan's?
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Eh... while it is a damage increase over sch's former best option (Mahatma Hpl.), on anything that matters AF+1 body is far better than either.
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Ah, gotcha. I have no real desire to level scholar, I was just straining to try and find a use for this thing...besides for smns.
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QUOTE (Nerull @ Mar 25 2009, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Eh... while it is a damage increase over sch's former best option (Mahatma Hpl.), on anything that matters AF+1 body is far better than either.


you leveld sch? hes right lol and im thinking aobut putting mine in rng or thf or hauby mnk or something , my sch chr is getting a new power piece biggrin.gif

the emitiy /fast cast for pld is a good invsement ( im not sure the alts for pld ) but i rmeember wanting to have haste to get that damn flash recast down, one of the few things i would actually advocate "needing" such a stat.
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Honestly, the 2 most broken options are:

1: As Rambus mentioned, fastcast/enmity on Nuevo for paladin, or
2: QD Recast/Mab + on Mirke, for Cor.

-5 QD Recast and 4 Mab on a body piece like that amps up Cor's damage so much. So, so much.
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QUOTE (Amentis @ Mar 26 2009, 06:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly, the 2 most broken options are:

1: As Rambus mentioned, fastcast/enmity on Nuevo for paladin, or
2: QD Recast/Mab + on Mirke, for Cor.

-5 QD Recast and 4 Mab on a body piece like that amps up Cor's damage so much. So, so much.

RNG or cor tp pice?
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For Rng, it's nice, but if you waste your Mirke as Cor on a TP piece, that's incredibly foolish.

The damage increase by getting -5QD recast is staggering.
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QUOTE (Amentis @ Mar 26 2009, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For Rng, it's nice, but if you waste your Mirke as Cor on a TP piece, that's incredibly foolish.

The damage increase by getting -5QD recast is staggering.



explan why this is good for cor, mine is 5 i ment you can use it for both cor and rng
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Well, as a fully merited QD recast, you have 50 second recast on QD.
On grand wyrms, a competent Cor can pull 500ish damage every 50 seconds.

Now, take away 5 seconds, that's 45 second recast, 500 damage every 45 seconds.

In a 75 minute fight, doing 1 500 damage QD every 45 seconds, that's 50,000 damage.
In a 75 minute fight, doing 1 500 damage QD every 50 seconds, that's 45,000 damage.

Did I do that right? I failed math a lot in high school.

If it IS right (I think it is), that's a 5,000 damage gain in a 75 minute fight, from ONE piece.
500 is a conservative QD number on Tiamat for a serious QD Cor.

Can someone check this math for me? I'm retarded >.>
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QUOTE (Amentis @ Mar 26 2009, 07:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, as a fully merited QD recast, you have 50 second recast on QD.
On grand wyrms, a competent Cor can pull 500ish damage every 50 seconds.

Now, take away 5 seconds, that's 45 second recast, 500 damage every 45 seconds.

In a 75 minute fight, doing 1 500 damage QD every 45 seconds, that's 50,000 damage.
In a 75 minute fight, doing 1 500 damage QD every 50 seconds, that's 45,000 damage.

Did I do that right? I failed math a lot in high school.

If it IS right (I think it is), that's a 5,000 damage gain in a 75 minute fight, from ONE piece.
500 is a conservative QD number on Tiamat for a serious QD Cor.

Can someone check this math for me? I'm retarded >.>



75 times 60 = 4500/50= 90 times you can use it
" " /45 = 100 times you can use it

90 times 1 500 = 135 000
100 times 1 500 = 150 000

how in the fuck where you off by that much -.-
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No no, I meant 1 500 as in
"One 500 damage QD"


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