[firepixiedarien]

Gonna be my first time taking on Kirin soon.

Besides obviously subbing Whm and running around with a vermy and parade gorget to be a healer if I'm demoted to backup healer onry, what should I wear if I'm kiting the Big Man Himself?

This is what I currently have and planned to use to full time kite Kirin till all 4 Mini Gods are down:

Main: Iron Ram Lance (-10% Damage Taken)
Ranged: Lamian Kaman +1 (MDB+2)
Head: Iron Ram Sallet (MDB+3)
Neck: Jeweled Collar (Elemental Resist +10;Doesn't Include Light or Dark)
Ear1: Coral Earring (-1% magic dmg taken)
Ear2: Merman's Earring (-2% magic dmg taken)
Body: Coral Scale Mail (-3% magic dmg taken)
Hands: Iron Ram Dastanas (MDB+2)
Ring1: Coral Ring (-3% magic dmg taken)
Ring2: Merman's Ring (-4% magic dmg taken)
Back: Lamia Mantle +1 (MDB+4)
Waist: Resolute Belt (MDB+2)
Legs: Iron Ram Hose (MDB+4)
Feet: Iron Ram Greaves (MDB+3)

[Revelations]

Back when I did this, almost 2 years ago since last time, I used regular tanking gear (swap in E Staff and Valor boots since no shield) cause I was able to run far enough out of range when he was starting to cast.

[Gryffes]

OP, your effort/research should be appluaded, you've amassed a set that can do pretty much anything in the game.
Kirin just requires avoiding eating the big stonegas and non-retarded healers when you get bound.

[Symbios]

I kite him on NIN, and I find even during the day it's pretty easy to kite him as long as you take advantage of the pillars. Don't run too fast (Or he might skip the pillar), pan your camera and keep your eyes on him. Personally all the PLDs I've done it with kite him on /NIN to avoid annoying things like getting bound. You shouldn't expect the mages to erase you in time if you get bound, especially if people are still trying to focus on mini god spawns.

You just need to get a feel for his casting speed/range, and you'll be fine, because you'll stop running yourself into dead-ends.

[Thelian]

use +enm full time then macro in mdb and -magic damage gear when he's casting.

[Tank_Doyouneedit]

Use enm gear or a kite set if you have it and /nin you can out run his spells if your running around the outside and shadows will take any tp moves he catches up to you for

[Tomasello]

You shouldn't expect the mages to erase you in time if you get bound, especially if people are still trying to focus on mini god spawns.

That's a sad state of affairs if people feel that way. Back in the day, as I rdm/whm (when everyone was a pld/war) my sole job was to run along side the kiting plds and erase/barstonra/buff them as needed. Things are probably done differently/better now but you should EXPECT a player to do his job. That includes casting erase when needed. It not hard to do but it does require that you actually pay attention. Something I see less and less of in today's game play.

You learn real quick who the shitty healers are and who the good ones are and who pays attention and who doesn't. At least my old linkshell did.

[Jurojin]

Neck: Jeweled Collar (Elemental Resist +10;Doesn't Include Light or Dark)

Scratch this - elemental resist does nothing until you reach the higher tiers. +10 of anything won't help you, use Harmonia neck, Parade gorget or whatever else there is, also - macros

[Zareth]

What you wear actually matters very little. If you're only kiting until the mini's are down, just throw off a flash whenever he stops to cast quake or stone.

Sub ninja to block most WS and single-target spells.

Figure out who the best RDM in your linkshell is and tell every other RDM never to cast gravity or bind. Have that RDM cast those two spells alone, and only as appropriate. MDB/Res won't amount to anything significant on kirin, all things considered. I'd invest more in HP to survive a freak WS or stonega.

[Symbios]

I'm not sure about it, but MDB may or may not affect his whirlwind-type attacks. I do know that the one time I wore Jelly Ring (Spells are easy to avoid), his whirlwinds one-shotted me almost every time.

That's a sad state of affairs if people feel that way. Back in the day, as I rdm/whm (when everyone was a pld/war) my sole job was to run along side the kiting plds and erase/barstonra/buff them as needed.

The thing is, everyone I know kites Kirin /NIN (btw I'm not entirely sure how other LSs do it, but I'm pretty sure most of them use one alliance + one kiting PT, my Kiting PT almost always consists of me on NIN/DRK with a RDM/NIN and we kite it together, while everyone else is in an alliance killing gods), and you're never going to bound if you know what you're doing. Other thing about being bound is that if he starts casting something big (like Stonega IV) as you get bound, it's already too late to outrun the casting range and I would probably weapon bash and hope for the best.

When you're actually fighting Kirin as an alliance, after mini gods, well yeah, people are going to erase you because they're there to see you get bound. It's not about RDMs or WHMs getting crappier, it's about kiters getting better.

As far as gear goes, I wear almost completely enmity gear- but I'm a NIN, you'll probably have less issues doing this on PLD.

[Tenbroya]

I'm not sure about it, but MDB may or may not affect his whirlwind-type attacks. I do know that the one time I wore Jelly Ring (Spells are easy to avoid), his whirlwinds one-shotted me almost every time.



The thing is, everyone I know kites Kirin /NIN (btw I'm not entirely sure how other LSs do it, but I'm pretty sure most of them use one alliance + one kiting PT, my Kiting PT almost always consists of me on NIN/DRK with a RDM/NIN and we kite it together, while everyone else is in an alliance killing gods), and you're never going to bound if you know what you're doing. Other thing about being bound is that if he starts casting something big (like Stonega IV) as you get bound, it's already too late to outrun the casting range and I would probably weapon bash and hope for the best.

When you're actually fighting Kirin as an alliance, after mini gods, well yeah, people are going to erase you because they're there to see you get bound. It's not about RDMs or WHMs getting crappier, it's about kiters getting better.

As far as gear goes, I wear almost completely enmity gear- but I'm a NIN, you'll probably have less issues doing this on PLD.

Although I have never played NIN/DRK. You have stun when /DRK, you could always try stunning Stonega if you're bound. Or of course if you have any DRK or BLM to have them watch for stonegas and stun it.

[Kuz]

When our LS does Kirin (kiting) the party set-up is usually:

RDM/BLM
SMN/WHM
PLD/NIN x2

Our PLDs are usually in Relic or AF (ACP if they have) with typical sword/shield combo.

As long as you have the Buffs from SMN, and the RDM can land Gravity... its cake.
sub Nin to suck-up the Non-aga's he will toss.
If your Magic Defense is in question, tossing a COR into Kite party for Magus Roll is always nice.

Granted our PLDs already have Crimson Legs, but even without... shouldn't give you much trouble.

Only time we've run into trouble is if a mini wasn't pulled off fast enough...
or when Kirin is popped and he starts with a Sleepga (yeah, fun times!)

[Yuffy~]

You just need to get a feel for his casting speed/range, and you'll be fine, because you'll stop running yourself into dead-ends.

use +enm full time then macro in mdb and -magic damage gear when he's casting.

^ best advices.

blink as much as possible actually, it helps. use macros, MDB and all in idle is retarded since his TP moves and casts are VERY long so you can easily switch before being hit.

my kite party is always RDM x1 + PLD x1, there are very little risk to die while kiting kirin and i dont have W legs (._.)

[Carynaira]

Although I have never played NIN/DRK. You have stun when /DRK, you could always try stunning Stonega if you're bound. Or of course if you have any DRK or BLM to have them watch for stonegas and stun it.

A NIN/DRK will not land Stun on Kirin.

[_Vivik_]

Did Kirin yesterday, kite pt was nin/drk (me), pld/nin, whm, rdm! I did not use/do anything special, run from -ga, tp moves that ignore shadows, stun (or flash for pld) when he stops on IV's and AM for minis’! Then bounce hate with pld for kill, they hold for SC + MB's then I take for kite if things go amuck.

Pld did not use any super armor set at any time, just normal enmity/hp/def armor.

@Carynaira: I landed stun as nin/drk yesterday, lasted .1 of a sec, but still landed, sry no SS

[Tricant]

Stunning Kirin is like dividing by 0. It just doesn't happen unless a miracle occurs.

[FurionStormRage]

Although I have never played NIN/DRK. You have stun when /DRK, you could always try stunning Stonega if you're bound. Or of course if you have any DRK or BLM to have them watch for stonegas and stun it.

Kirin resists Stun pretty much all the time. (You CAN get it to land, but you should never rely on it)

[iambatman]

people still kite kirin ?

[Foxdragoon]

Tenbroya, on 17 June 2009 - 09:38 AM, said:

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Although I have never played NIN/DRK. You have stun when /DRK, you could always try stunning Stonega if you're bound. Or of course if you have any DRK or BLM to have them watch for stonegas and stun it.

That was hilarious, thank you.

[TresDuendes]

go /nin, use your mdt gear and straight tank it
when it casts stonega iv, run as far as you can
you'll either eat it alone for about 900-1k dmg (depending on gear) or out of range it