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DNC Evasion Setup Discuss DNC Evasion gear and what you can do!

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User is offline   Megieux 

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Ok, well I was one of the first people on Titan (NA) to get their DNC to 75. I mostly just merited the job until I got hooked into an evasion setup.

Without Boxer's Mantle right now, I have 285 evasion skill +71 evasion bonus. (Still working on Ermine's Tail!)
Azoth/Joytoy_______4eva
Goblin Cracker _____2eva (working on Fenrir stone...)
Optical Hat_________10eva
Scorpion Harness+1_12eva
Corse Cape_________7eva
2x Wivre Ring+1_____6eva
Raven Hose_________6eva
Elusive Earring_______5eva
Scouter's Rope______10eva
Closed Position 3/5___9eva

Merits:
5/5 No Foot Rise
2/5 Reverse Flourish
3/5 Closed Position
1/5 Fan Dance
1/5 Saber Dance
1/5 Building Flourish
Evasion 4/4
Critical 4/4

Evasion Torque_____7evaskill
Emissary Boots_____5evaskill
Evasion Earring_____3evaskill
Patrician's Cuffs_____6evaskill
(Replace Both earring with Melody+1s while duoing with BRD)

Currently with this setup I can solo Charybdis fairly easily as well as a long list of other NMs.
I'm buying a Camera and will post a video of the solo within the next few weeks. Not high on priorities (and I have to pop the damn thing)
Currently NMs that can be solo'ed with this setup (as far as I know, I don't list some and have yet to try many)

*Charybdis (Fan Dance isn't "needed" but it makes the fight almost as easy as Lord of Onzozo. Make sure Fan Dance can be used as soon as Charybdis hits 7% HP)
*Tyrannic Tunnok
*Shikigami Weapon
*Lord of Onzozo
*All WSNM can be duo'd with RDM
*Lindwurm
*Bune duo with BRD
*Narasimha
*Ose (Very very very difficult and completely depends on luck. Died 8x+ attempting until a success.)
*Kreutzet
*Bugbear Matman
*Da'Dha Hundredmask duo with BRD or RDM (Patrician's Cuffs Notorious Monster in Bedeaux[S])
*Behemoth Easily duo'd. Probably shouldn't even count him he's so easy.

If anyone has any suggestions on what to kill next, or wants to post their own EVA set or accomplishments, go ahead biggrin.gif


Oh and I DO NOT have any relic besides boots at the moment. Charybdis can be stunned a fairly good % of the time long enough to get Ichi off, and then some.

Remember Dancers! Evasion Skill may very well be better than bonus, but bonus sure as hell adds up to something Fierce!
With max Eva setup, my dnc will have 295skill+72 during daytime and 295skill+80 during Night.

Have Fun! laugh.gif


*edit* fixed formatting.
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Hmm, I hadn't thought of the Patriachs hands, I was thinking Denali hands were best with +6 eva and -2% dmg, but oh well. How long did Charby take? and how long were the other fights?
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*Charybdis (Fan Dance isn't "needed" but it makes the fight almost as easy as Lord of Onzozo. Make sure Fan Dance can be used as soon as Charybdis hits 7% HP) an hour or so
*Tyrannic Tunnok 45 minutes
*Shikigami Weapon can range from 30 mins to an hour and a half depending on your strategy
*Lord of Onzozo exactly 30 minutes.
*All WSNM can be duo'd with RDM around 30 minutes each
*Lindwurm 30-45min
*Bune an hour to 2 hours
*Narasimha 45 minutes
*Ose 30 minutes
*Kreutzet 30-55 minutes
*Bugbear Matman 25-30 mins. Really easy.
*Da'Dha Hundredmask duo with BRD or RDM duoing, it takes about an hour. Alot of HP.
*Behemoth depends completely on what job you duo it with.


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Boxer Mantle would be better for the back (+10EVA skill)
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User is offline   Megieux 

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Yeah it says "without boxer's mantle right now" sad.gif
I'm too lazy to get it. I know a should. Maybe I'll just buy the ancient beastcoins.

Oh and I just replaced the SH+1 with Mirke Wardecors with acc10 eva10
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Way to replace your Scorpion Harness with a Scorpion harness.
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lolevasionskill.

http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=51047

Aspire to this.


The only exceptions I can see are getting a gnole crown and keeping those emissary boots, but I'm an evasion purist and wont trade for parry even in greater numbers.

Oh, and put fastcast on that +10 eva body. Not acc.

Do you know anything about soloing/haste/fastcast/recasts? lol


http://killingifrit.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=177250

That was actually just posted by someone and replied to by myself today, you might find it educational.

I really wish people would stop using eva skill earrings/hands, especially since the only slot where quantities are equal is hands... In earrings you sacrifice 3-4 eva and feet you only sacrifice 1, and gain 5 parry skill which is why it's a potential exception if you're going for overall solo viability versus just pure evasion.
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First of all, Dancer cannot use Ungur boomerang.

Second of all, I'd take patrician's cuffs over denali wristbands any day except on WS. Even then they aren't the best.
Sacrificing accuracy for evasion can be a problem while soloing mobs lvl 80+ so I put accuracy on the mirke. I don't need fastcast.
Fastcast is great yeah sure, but I'd rather have the accuracy honestly, because if i need 1-3 seconds I can just stun the damn thing.

Sure I could buy a Triton earring, but I never see them for sale. And you expect everyone to have a Novia earring? Whatever.

I asked for anyone to post advice or anything. Not criticize gear choices.
You're obviously a thief and not dancer or you would know the certain things needed for the job. 10acc is better than fastcast for dancer. Period. No ifs ands or buts.

And I'm in the process of getting Ermine's Tail. It's a rare drop and I'm 0/15 on the stupid thing.

Could go back and forth talking about how fast cast vs 10acc could go, but for my uses, 10acc blows 3fastcast out of the water. Mirke with acc and eva is the best dnc armor in the game. Antares is almost on par with it, but the STR bonuses on pyrihic Kleos mod the potency of the eva down making it even better.

Oh, and using a empress pin at 75 is kind of sad. Macro it in, but using it fulltime is disgraceful.
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You wasted your ACP body on a god damn Scorpion harness+1 1/2. Being able to get something like Fast cast on a body piece is a serious bonus to soloing.
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I'm not going to rewrite a set on my profile just for you.

Durka durka llama llama, of course you can't use ungur.


Fast cast on that body is 5% faster ni and ichi, and 5% less recast.
It's better than Raparee for utsu by epic margins, putting evasion on it just makes it an amazing utsu swap or piece to turtle in while soloing or tanking.

You can get acc on half a dozen bodies. TP in those. You're forsaking a significant improvement to your ability to keep shadows up and not get hit while doing so, just for some stats on your evason body. It's called Antares Harness. TP in that. It's .5 less evasion and has ACC/DEX inaddition to being an amazing WS body for DNC.

TP in Antares, cast utsu in the fastcast body.

And you're misquoting the fastcast as 3, it's 5%.

Mirke with acc/eva best dnc body?

5 str = 2.5 atk
5 dex = 2.5 acc
5 agi = 2.5 eva

+10 acc
+10 eva

2.5 atk, 12.5 acc, 12.5 eva

v.s.

8 dex = 4 acc
8 agi = 4 eva

+8 acc
+8 eva

12 acc, 12 eva, and 3 more dex for mod on WS


So, you're choosing a marginal improvement for WS numbers, and .5 acc/eva and a pinch of attack, over something that's a huge boost to your ability to keep up shadows.


Unless you're fighting stuff that rages, how fast you kill could matter less.

You're seriously hilarious with this "Fulltime" shit about Emp pin, by the way.

THF will be eating nothing but sushi on anything that bolts proc on, which is the vast majority of mobs, ACC isn't even remotely an issue with fully merited feint, and Sushi. And again back to it not mattering how fast you kill unless a mob rages.


And I took DNC to about 68 or so on my old account, thanks for playing though.
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He might have got the DW mixed up with fast cast option on the body~

I'm getting +5 enm and 5% fast cast for my pld :x
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I have the right to choose whatever the hell I want on my equipment. And regaining a new bodypieces is not hard at all. In Fact it's quite easy. If I decide later to get fastcast+whatever, I can. This works fine for me.

Don't criticize me for my opinion.
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You seemed to care about solo accomplishments.


I gave you some better ways to do it.

QUOTE
Don't criticize me for my opinion.


Have you ever heard of constructive criticism? It doesn't have to be -nice-, just constructive.


I gave you some feedback, with a little editorial cause that's just how I am.


The biggest thing you should take away from this are the comments about +skill versus normal eva.
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QUOTE (Megieux @ Apr 13 2009, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have the right to choose whatever the hell I want on my equipment. And regaining a new bodypieces is not hard at all. In Fact it's quite easy. If I decide later to get fastcast+whatever, I can. This works fine for me.

Don't criticize me for my opinion.

Why are you getting all bent out of shape just because someone doesn't agree with you?
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