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Hmm. Upgrades? What to buy? :(

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Alright so... I'm retiring my RDM and selling most equipment I have for it. Gonna have around 1.7M to burn through after that, so trying to figure out what best to spend it all on.

Current Equipment

Main/Sub Weapons

Joyeuse
Corsair's Scimitar
Heartsnatcher
8/8 Elemental Staves
Beater's Aspis
Axe Grip
Ice Grip
Thunder Grip

Guns

Martial Gun
Coffinmaker
Peacemaker
Corsair's Gun

Head

Corsair's Tricorne
Walahra Turban

Body

Mirke Wardecors (RACC+10, RATK+10)
Pahluwan Khazagand

Hands

Dusk Gloves
Cobra Unit Mittens
Commodore Gants

Legs

Cobra Unit Subligar
Dusk Trousers
War Brais (Quick Draw)
Commodore Culotte

Feet

Cobra Unit Leggings
Corsair's Bottes
Commodore Bottes
Hermes' Sandals
Wood F Ledelsens (+6 AGI for QD)

Neck

Spectacles

Earrings

Drone Earring x2
Suppanomimi
Vision Earring
Beater's Earring
Fenrir's Earring
Moldavite Earring

Rings

Behemoth Ring x2
Sniper's Ring x2
Ruby Ring x2
Emerald Ring x2

Back

Amemet Mantle +1

Waist

Velocious Belt
Scouter's Rope
Precise Belt
Gun Belt
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Here's a few really great upgrades you can make, and the first two are free!:

In no particular order:

Throw Corsair's Scimitar and Heartsnatcher the fuck away.
Take that piece of shit Wildecors back and do it again with the proper stats.
Get Dusk feet and AF2 feet(+1)
HQ AF1 hat and boots.
Get a PCC.
SH+1 for TP and macro to something else for WS.
Brutal Earring is nice.
Ugly pendant is nice for QD.
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Peacock Charm if you want to blow all your gil on one item. Might want to consider Qiqirn Collar too depending on your gear.

Also for Quick Draw, I have found myself to use fire shot with Fire Staff + Fire Grip as my default Quick Draw damage tool. Also might want to consider Corsair's Gun for max damage potential.

Maybe War Boots depending on your setup. That's about all I can think of for Auction House gear.
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QUOTE (Blueyes @ Apr 17 2009, 01:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also might want to consider Corsair's Gun for max damage potential.


Anybody else find it disturbing, that the true /BLM/RDM/WHM gun, has the name of the job on it? As if it's trying to say... know your place, or something.

But then I remember: Hey wait, I'm a Corsair and not a fruity Bard that can't do any damage in general... fuck the rules.

Now to only hopefully luck out on these mass amounts of Behemoth Hides, and get Dusk Gloves/Ledelsens +1 for my Corsair TP set (hands for SAM too of course though >_>)... but then I'll most likely be doing DRK to 72 for Octave Club zerg, so therefore, I hate my life ect (leveling another job = ffffffffffff).
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QUOTE (Arkley @ Apr 16 2009, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's a few really great upgrades you can make, and the first two are free!:

In no particular order:

Throw Corsair's Scimitar and Heartsnatcher the fuck away.
Take that piece of shit Wildecors back and do it again with the proper stats.
Get Dusk feet and AF2 feet(+1)
HQ AF1 hat and boots.
Get a PCC.
SH+1 for TP and macro to something else for WS.
Brutal Earring is nice.
Ugly pendant is nice for QD.


Working on Sea access at the moment so I can get my AF+1s.

I don't actually use Corsair's Scimitar, and don't use Heartsnatcher either. XD I just have them.

My Mirke is fine as it is ty. I don't have much use for Quick Draw, in the things I do, and I prefer to ranged DD as COR, instead of being another QD/pulling whore for everything.

@+82 RACC, do I really need a PCC? >.>

Ugly Pendant - working on it. <.< No one on my server wants to risk their precious EXP on that fight.

EDIT: 3/6 Commodore set, got all the city pieces. Commodore Feet = Fail. Just nice for looks.

QUOTE (Blueyes @ Apr 17 2009, 03:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Peacock Charm if you want to blow all your gil on one item. Might want to consider Qiqirn Collar too depending on your gear.

Also for Quick Draw, I have found myself to use fire shot with Fire Staff + Fire Grip as my default Quick Draw damage tool. Also might want to consider Corsair's Gun for max damage potential.

Maybe War Boots depending on your setup. That's about all I can think of for Auction House gear.


Hmm, working on Qiqirn Collar the the moment, I was planning on getting that next. ^^

Have 8/8 Ele Staves at the moment, 4/8 Grips, and 4/8 Staves are HQ (Dark, Ice, Wind, Earth). I do have a Corsair's Gun. <<; Must forgotten to list it, I almost never have a use for it. >.<

Hmm...I was using War Boots before I got Dusk pants, but my Ranged ACC didn't like it. >.>
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My Mirke is fine as it is ty.


No it isn't.

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I don't have much use for Quick Draw, in the things I do, and I prefer to ranged DD as COR, instead of being another QD/pulling whore for everything.


First of all, if you're ranged DDing in merit parties, stop. It's not as good as using Joytoy. If you're using Joytoy and just macroing to your Mirke for WS, then having a QD Mirke will increase your damage over time more than having a WSmacro Mirke. It'll also help in other ways, such as having Light Shot more readily available.

Second, if you're ranged DDing on gods/HNMs etc; having a Mirke QD here will inarguably and without a doubt put your damage far, far, far ahead of what the ranged Mirk can do. I just don't think you understand how amazing that 5 seconds shaved off a merited QD timer is.

Third, if you do insist on having a ranged DD piece for DDing HNMs and merit mobs from a distance, why the shit do you not have Snapshot on it? Do you have any idea how much of an impact that Snapshot will have on your ranged delay? And you could combine it with the other pieces available to COR, too.


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@+82 RACC, do I really need a PCC? >.>


Ignoring the issue of your Wildecors for a moment, yes, yes you do. You always need more R./ACC if it's going in a slot where you previously had less. We've had this discussion before, remember?

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Commodore Feet = Fail. Just nice for looks.


Uh...no. They're one of the best (not to mention free) pieces available for your feet and they're outstanding for an ACC set macro for THF/NIN mamools. HQ Commodore are arguably the best melee feet around.

No, it doesn't matter that they're no good for ranged DDing because 95% of the time on the vast majority of mobs in the game you shouldn't be ranged DDing.

You know, I really didn't have high hopes for this thread based on the last time you asked a question, got advice from people who know far better what they're doing and then proceeded to argue about it with them. You wanted advice and now you're got it. There's a reason virutally every Mirke made by anyone who has COR levelled has QD stats. There's a reason 90% of CORs melee with Joytoy. There's a reason PCC is so coveted. You are not the one single unique snowflake player that realised everyone else is doing it wrong and you are no exception from the rule that you should be doing it right. Don't come here for advice if you're just going to piss and moan and bitch about it.
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I am not obligated to agree with you; in fact, I do honestly lol at most of your posts.

Yes, I asked for advice and now I've gotten it, and its further convinced me you're either A. an idiot, or B. think COR can only be played one way.

I pity your ignorance.

If anyone has something useful to say, instead of bitching and moaning about the choices I decide to make, please do contribute.

If you just want to whine and moan like Arkley because you don't have the free will do be different, kindly gtfo.

Oh an by the way, I use Cobra Unit Leggings for the Store TP. I can sacrifice 1 ACC for +4 Store TP.
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Well aren't you silly? This is FF XI. There's a right way to do things and many wrong ways to do things. The right way, which is thankfully the way most CORs do things, is the way I'm telling you to do things. Among the wrong ways to do things are your methods.

So, rather than just sitting there and typing "You're an idiot!" because I've told you you're wrong and how and why you're wrong, why don't you tell me why you think you're the one single COR who's getting it right?

Go ahead. Tell me why you think your only-slightly-better-than-what-we-already-have WS body piece is better than the ultimate Quick Draw piece. Why don't you tell me why you think that, even if you do insist on making a ranged piece, your choices for it are better than the snapshot?

Do you even know how Store TP works? Do you know why it's next to useless for 1H weapons, particularly Joytoy?

So go ahead, I'll wait. Why don't you tell me why you think you and you alone are right, and everyone else is wrong?

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If you just want to whine and moan like Arkley because you don't have the free will do be different, kindly gtfo.



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Because I don't have the time, need, or want to explain myself to egotistical, close-minded ignoramuses like yourself.

Continue to think I'm using my equipment for melee, lol, I really don't care what you think.

I will say it again. I am a ranged Corsair. Gun in my main weapon, I make myself useful as a Ranged Corsair, I gear for it, I eat for it, and I play as it.

And lol. I don't use Mirke just for WS. I use it for Ranged Melee. Like I said, I am a Ranged Corsair.
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And yet you sure do have the time to keep posting and telling me how wrong I am without offering any form of rebuttal, don't you? You sure do need to keep making excuses for why you suck, don't you? And you sure do want everyone to think that your way is right regardless of how much testing has proved you wrong, don't you?

So why not channel all of that energy into making a post about why you're doing things the wrong way and why you think you're right, and those of us that do know what we're doing will tear it apart.

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I will say it again. I am a ranged Corsair. Gun in my main weapon, I make myself useful as a Ranged Corsair, I gear for it, I eat for it, and I play as it.


And you will never have the potential that a melee COR does, and unless you're going up against a melee COR with vastly inferior gear, you will never be better.

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Continue to think I'm using my equipment for melee, lol, I really don't care what you think.


Did you even read my post? Except for the comparison between Cobra and Commodore boots, I've always said if you melee, do this, and if you don't melee, start meleeing.

And you might notice that the reason I pointed out that Store TP is useless for 1H weapons is because you said;

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Oh an by the way, I use Cobra Unit Leggings for the Store TP. I can sacrifice 1 ACC for +4 Store TP.


Hoo boy, lookie here. You were comparing Store TP to ACC. That's ACC, you know, for meleeing?

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And lol. I don't use Mirke just for WS. I use it for Ranged Melee. Like I said, I am a Ranged Corsair.


Then why the hell don't you have Snapshot on it, you dumb fuck? Why do you continue to make it more and more evident with each post that you don't have a clue what you're talking about? Good lord, even lab rats in mazes stop touching the electric fence after a while, but you just keep on going.

You're freaking Carrilea II.
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when i sit here reading this all i see is "hey guys i have a idea for my job" then some wise ass says "tough we dont wanna hear it and if you try it your clearly doing the job wrong" great job wth? how did people find out QD was so good? just sitting there hoping SE would tell em everything or by trying out new things to see which is better? gonna kick down everyone who trys something new then just gtfo -->
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Yeah, they're knocking ranged attacks because they've never tried it. You've definitely managed to get right to the heart of it, they're all closed-minded pricks who've never, ever tried anything different and certainly aren't speaking from experience. Since the job was only released a week ago, it's pretty obvious that no one has had several years to try different approaches and come to a consensus agreement regarding effectiveness.
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COR was given a gun to melee ? gotcha
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QUOTE (Aledacia @ Apr 17 2009, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I use it for Ranged Melee.


Wait, what?
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QUOTE (Carynaira @ Apr 18 2009, 02:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wait, what?


Ranged DD* >_>
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While I won't say I agree that Aledacia is the bane of humanity, I kind of want to second that Snapshot comment. 5% shorter delay is pretty significant for ranged DoT. If you want to hold it has a powerful weaponskill piece, I would keep the ranged attack and take off the ranged accuracy for Snapshot. While obviously accuracy is more important for TP gain, to be honest ranged accuracy shouldn't be a huge concern and could pretty easily be made up in other slots. Worst case you can always just eat sushi and wear attack gear.
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when i sit here reading this all i see is "hey guys i have a idea for my job" then some wise ass says "tough we dont wanna hear it and if you try it your clearly doing the job wrong"


I don't what thread you're reading, but this thread prettymuch went like this:

"Help me play my job"
"Okay, you need to do this:"
"I don't want to do that, you're wrong, fuck you!"

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how did people find out QD was so good?


Same way we found out meleeing is better than shooting for TP. By testing it over and over and coming to a near unanimous conclusion.

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If you want to hold it has a powerful weaponskill piece, I would keep the ranged attack and take off the ranged accuracy for Snapshot.


Agreed. But then what you have is a WS piece that is only slightly superior to Denali, which is already available, and you have a ranged TP piece which will still not make ranged TPing superior to meleeing. You can add R.ACC and R.ATT and use it as a WS piece while meleeing for TP, and then what you have is a piece that is still only slightly better than what is already available for WS and will still not increase your overall damage or usefulness more than a QD piece.



I'd also like to take this opportunity to point out that Alec here is stating that the WS/ranged tp piece is superior to her because, as well as prefering ranged TP to melee, she doesn't need a QD piece because she doesn't use Quick Draw for the things she does.

And now I'd like to direct you all to this thread, made less than a month ago, in which Alec states she wants to start a COR solo career, and sets her eyes on Despot.

http://killingifrit.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=176533

Some people need to just freaking admit they made shitty choices instead of repeatedly embarassing and contradicting themselves, and accept they're wrong.
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QUOTE (Arkley @ Apr 17 2009, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Uh...no. They're one of the best (not to mention free) pieces available for your feet and they're outstanding for an ACC set macro for THF/NIN mamools. HQ Commodore are arguably the best melee feet around.


While Commodore Bottes aren't quite garbage by any means (and acceptable TP footwear, honestly), they're kind of pushed to the side by Dusk Ledelsens +1 (heavty pricetag, mmm) <_> other than that though, Ark' sounds like the hostess with the mostest... if he wasn't a dude, that is. Sly bit harsh though. o-o

Oh, and just skimmed over it again... unless the extra Store TP shaves off a hit toward 100% TP, the ACC, regardless of if it's even only one point... will win. mellow.gif

This thread's kind of going down hill though, so I'll leave it as be right now.
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QUOTE (IronPandemonium @ Apr 18 2009, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
While Commodore Bottes aren't quite garbage by any means (and acceptable TP footwear, honestly), they're kind of pushed to the side by Dusk Ledelsens +1 (heavty pricetag, mmm) <_> other than that though, Ark' sounds like the hostess with the mostest... if he wasn't a dude, that is. Sly bit harsh though. o-o

I still want to see if anyone can come up with a Haste vs. Accuracy comparison and hopefully have some math behind it to show how such and such amount of Haste will result in faster TP gain as opposed to such and such amount of accuracy.
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Id rather use my Commodore Bottes, use SAM Roll and keep my Acc, its ok, I have Cobra Unit Mittens(cause its free right now and Im poor half the time) for now, If I was gunning for TP, but with keeping up four rolls. Since i Support first then DD, or Healer or whatever I put my sub at. Wait let me rephrase, whatever my LS/PT decides I should be to support the mission/exp/endgame. I know I use more QD in dynamis, sky, ect ect. I'll use the -5 QD recast and +5 MAB. If I didnt and I was more of a Range DD'd COR, Id slap on +10 Racc or +10Ratt(which ever I lack the most), and use the other slot for Snapshot. PPC > Specs nough said. Mirke should go as whatever you use the most. Never though look past the obvious choices. Like the snapshots, the +5 QD, ect ect ect. It would be like if I made it into a BLU piece, i'd be slapping on the Fast cast feature. Pulling with QD is weeaaakkkk. Save the Cards for sleeping links, debuffing, and dmg over time.


An just for Arkley

5/5 Winning Streak.

Now since we're all COR can't we all just sit around a table drink rum and eat pie together? ;-;

An yes I have run on sentances and what not, dont care, this isnt my college course here, this is KI>
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